Died Friday April 3, 33c.e
Raised Sunday April 5, 33c.e
Returned to heaven Thursday May 14, 33c.e.
Will return AFTER the GT is cut short/ends
johnamos
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What day off the Week?
by BereanThinker7 indoes anybody know if the borg has ever done any articles on what day of the week they think jesus died?
i know most denominations think it was friday and i have also heard somewhat sensible arguments that it could be wednesday.
not that it matters weather one in a believer or not even.
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Ban on Independent Meetings
by lssjr insource - march 2021 announcements - - https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5085868283920384/2021-march-147-english-german-announcements-reminders.
this is a sobering reminder of what happened some 40 years ago when raymond franz and others were literally kicked out from the jehovah's witnesses for having pre-arranged private spiritual discussions.lesson: paragraph 7 is another example of the i and t in dr. steven hassan's bite model of the 21st century cult - information and thought control at its best!!!!
"my gosh, there must be a lot of independent meetings these days.
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johnamos
[9-15-95 WT- ‘The Golden Calf’ And the people said: “All that Jehovah has spoken we are willing to do and be obedient.”—Exodus 24:7. Nevertheless, the Israelites soon sinned against God. They were still encamped at the foot of Mount Sinai. Moses had been on the mountain many days, receiving further instruction from God, and the people pressured Moses’ brother, Aaron, to make a god for them. Aaron complied and made a calf out of gold that the people provided. It was claimed that this idol represented Jehovah. (Psalm 106:20) The next day they offered sacrifices and kept “bowing down to it.” Then they had “a good time.”—Exodus 32:1, 4, 6, 8, 17-19.]
[Insight Vol 1 IDOL, IDOLATRY- An idol is an image, a representation of anything, or a symbol that is an object of passionate devotion, whether material or imagined. Generally speaking, idolatry is the veneration, love, worship, or adoration of an idol. It is usually practiced toward a real or supposed higher power, whether such power is believed to have animate existence (as a human, an animal, or an organization) or is inanimate (as a force or lifeless object of nature).]
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/s/r1/lp-e?q=%22jehovah%27s+organization+and+the+Governing+Body%22&p=par
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/302016046
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Ban on Independent Meetings
by lssjr insource - march 2021 announcements - - https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5085868283920384/2021-march-147-english-german-announcements-reminders.
this is a sobering reminder of what happened some 40 years ago when raymond franz and others were literally kicked out from the jehovah's witnesses for having pre-arranged private spiritual discussions.lesson: paragraph 7 is another example of the i and t in dr. steven hassan's bite model of the 21st century cult - information and thought control at its best!!!!
"my gosh, there must be a lot of independent meetings these days.
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johnamos
There is no provision for such arrangements
There is a provision for it...they tell you to be like the Beroen's. Those that are meeting together as stated in so-called reports of doing so should just say that they are examining the Scriptures to see whether what they heard in today's talk or WT lesson, is true or not.
[9-1-10 WT – Be like the noble-minded men and women whom the apostle Paul preached to in Beroea. They received the word with the greatest eagerness of mind, carefully examining the Scriptures daily as to whether these things were so. —Acts 17:11.You have nothing to fear from examining your beliefs in this way.” The bible encourages you to “make sure of all things” before accepting them as true. (1 Thess 5:21) Toward the end of the first century C.E., the apostle John urged his fellow christians: ” Beloved ones, do not believe every inspired expression, but test the inspired expressions to see whether they originate with God.” (1 John 4:1) Yes, even though a certain religious teaching seems to be “inspired” – or to come from God- it is still the course of wisdom to examine the Scriptures to make sure before accepting it as true- John 8:31,32. “]
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Should JW's Follow an Apostate?
by Sea Breeze inwasn't ct russell an apostate seventh day adventist?.
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johnamos
I do not see in that quotation what you claim. Elaborate.
If that was addressed to me then go have a look at all I bolden.
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Should JW's Follow an Apostate?
by Sea Breeze inwasn't ct russell an apostate seventh day adventist?.
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johnamos
According to the WTS, CTR had the 'mark of the beast'. Not only him but all JW's that died from the start of the WTS until at least 1928 all died having the 'mark'.
Revelation—Its Grand Climax At Hand! p. 197 - [What does it mean to be marked on the forehead or in the right hand with the name of the wild beast? When Jehovah gave Israel the Law, he told them: “You must apply these words of mine to your heart and your soul and bind them as a sign upon your hand, and they must serve as a frontlet band between your eyes.” (Deuteronomy 11:18) This meant that the Israelites had to keep that Law constantly before them, so that it influenced all their actions and thoughts. The 144,000 anointed ones are said to have the Father’s name and that of Jesus written on their foreheads. This identifies them as belonging to Jehovah God and Jesus Christ. (Revelation 14:1) In imitation, Satan uses the demonic mark of the wild beast. Anybody engaged in everyday activities such as buying and selling is pressured to do things the way the wild beast does, as, for example, in celebrating holidays. They are expected to worship the wild beast, letting it rule their lives, so as to receive its mark.]
1975 Yearbook of Jehovah’s Witnesses p. 147 - [In Pastor Russell’s day, Christmas was celebrated at the old Bible House in Allegheny, Pennsylvania. Ora Sullivan Wakefield recalls that Brother Russell gave members of the Bible House family five- or ten-dollar gold pieces at Christmas. Mabel P. M. Philbrick remarks: “A custom that certainly would not be carried on today was the celebration of Christmas with a Christmas tree in the Bethel dining room. Brother Russell’s usual ‘Good morning, all’ was changed to ‘Merry Christmas, all.’”]
w65 7/15 pp. 441-447 - [After the Society’s officials were released from prison in 1919 and exonerated, I was sent out as a pilgrim again. But after a number of years, Brother Rutherford called me back to Bethel and asked me to take charge of the pilgrim department. After the pilgrim department was ended, my desk was used in connection with the radio department. My duty was to write short radio talks of 10, 15, 20 and 30 minutes, to be used over hundreds of radio stations…I was asked to give an hour talk over a hookup on the subject of Christmas. It was given December 12, 1928, and published in The Golden Age #241 and again a year later in #268. That talk pointed out the pagan origin of Christmas. After that, the brothers at Bethel never celebrated Christmas again.]
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What “Secret Sins” Do You Think Many JWs Are “Guilty “ Of?
by minimus ini know a lot of witnesses that drink a lot!
secret sins people would confess to the elders were masturbation, dating and touching certain areas and anger issues.
some fathers/husbands looked like model figures until you heard from the family that the dictator ms were horrible at home in more ways than one..
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What are your favorite film clips?
by LoveUniHateExams inhey, guys - how ya doin?.
so, what are your favorite movie clips?.
gimme your best movie clips, please, ladies and gentlemen.. here's one of mine ….
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johnamos
No thank you...I take it black...like my men.
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Matthew 8:11 is FIGURATIVE, Matthew 8:12 is LITERAL
by Longlivetherenegades init is therefore evident that in matthew 8:11 jesus referred to abraham, isaac and jacob figuratively.............. .
for this reason it became necessary that many gentiles (non-jews), like the roman centurion whose faith brought a miraculous cure by jesus, should come “from eastern parts and western parts,” from all around the earth, to become dedicated, baptized christians............... the natural or fleshly jews of the nation of israel claimed to be the “sons of the kingdom” or the prospective members of god’s kingdom.
from the day of pentecost forward they saw the beginning and the gradual development of this theocratic arrangement, but because of their lack of faith in christ they were not in it.
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johnamos
1 Corinthians 15:44 It is sown a physical body; it is raised up a spiritual body. If there is a physical body, there is also a spiritual one...50 But I tell you this, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit God’s Kingdom, nor does corruption inherit incorruption.
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Don’t worry, the USA is still OK for the next four years.
by pistolpete inas i had mentioned in one of my past posts, i strongly felt the democrats would win the presidency because they know they can cheat and not get prosecuted.
case in point; everyone involved in the russian conspiracy.
and the republicans just don’t understand that they need to get in the gutter and fight back like the democrats.
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johnamos
Schumer said they will "Change America" if they win the Senate as well
LOL...Schumer actually said "change the WORLD", it is only when he was asked to repeat what he said did he say America.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMMrNeyIMWs
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Final Prediction on Election
by minimus inwho wins?
who loses?
president/ senate/ house of representatives .
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johnamos
Trump was right, the coronavirus will magically "disappear" on Nov 4th.