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johnamos
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Gordon Nehemia - Finding God's holy name with full vowels
by Da.Furious ini was just sent a link to a jewish scholar that apparently he has found 1,000 manuscripts with yehovah and latest discovery is one with vowels that supports the spelling yehovah.
so this pits the myth that jews have forgotten the name into rest.. i got excited jws about the finding in support of the nwt showing the name as it should be.. just wanted to share this with you guys.. link to the blog and podcat: https://www.nehemiaswall.com/1000-manuscripts-yehovah#more-13611.
also link to michael rood (blog:https://www.michaelrood.tv/) interview who is his friend:.
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References to YHWH in ancient documents
by Doug Mason inpage 15 of awake!
2017 provides an image that shows hebrew writing with the statement: “the personal name of god written in ancient hebrew characters appears abundantly in early manuscripts of the bible”.. alongside that image, the awake!
provides a listing to show “the rendering of ‘god’s name’ in various languages”.. the facts do not support either assertion that the watchtower society makes:.
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johnamos
I have to admit that I was excited to check the youtube video based on hearing that the vowels points are in these found manuscripts, but these guys put an end to that excitement real quick.
If they don’t show the manuscripts and give more information about them then what they are saying means nothing to me.
Having said that, with or without manuscripts I am of the belief that Yehovah/Jehovah is the correct spelling of God’s name that is if the above Hebrew names are correct.
If there are many Hebrew names that start with JEHO/YEHO or end in IAH/YAH and the part that makes up that part of the name is from יהוה (JHVH/YHWH) and if it is accepted to use the vowels E, O, & A for these names then it only stands to reason that these vowels should be used in writing out God’s name.
Example:
Jehoshua
Obadiah
JeHoVaH
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References to YHWH in ancient documents
by Doug Mason inpage 15 of awake!
2017 provides an image that shows hebrew writing with the statement: “the personal name of god written in ancient hebrew characters appears abundantly in early manuscripts of the bible”.. alongside that image, the awake!
provides a listing to show “the rendering of ‘god’s name’ in various languages”.. the facts do not support either assertion that the watchtower society makes:.
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johnamos
Its not meant to I just made a mistake in typing it out…
Anyway, what I would like to know is how is it that the following Hebrew names are written out and pronounced in English?
Jeremiah – ירמיהו
Jehoshua – יהושע
Jehoshaphat – יהושפט
Obadiah – עובדיה
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References to YHWH in ancient documents
by Doug Mason inpage 15 of awake!
2017 provides an image that shows hebrew writing with the statement: “the personal name of god written in ancient hebrew characters appears abundantly in early manuscripts of the bible”.. alongside that image, the awake!
provides a listing to show “the rendering of ‘god’s name’ in various languages”.. the facts do not support either assertion that the watchtower society makes:.
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johnamos
Is there any debate on the following Hebrew name being written as ‘Jeremiah’?
ג'רמיה
Is there any debate on the following Hebrew name being written as ‘Jehoshua’?
יהושע
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References to YHWH in ancient documents
by Doug Mason inpage 15 of awake!
2017 provides an image that shows hebrew writing with the statement: “the personal name of god written in ancient hebrew characters appears abundantly in early manuscripts of the bible”.. alongside that image, the awake!
provides a listing to show “the rendering of ‘god’s name’ in various languages”.. the facts do not support either assertion that the watchtower society makes:.
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The most successful teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses and an amazing new book on the divine name
by slimboyfat injehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.
but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .
i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.
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The most successful teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses and an amazing new book on the divine name
by slimboyfat injehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.
but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .
i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.
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johnamos
Jesus is the name that should be used to expel demons. The emphasis on Jehovah by Watchtower makes JWs lose focus on the message of the New Testament
Keep in mind that the name Jesus is not what was being used, it was Jehoshua and Jehoshua is said to be ‘Jehovah is Salvation’.
Luke 1:31 and, look! you will conceive in your womb and give birth to a son, and you are to call his name Jesus.
Luke 2:21 Now when eight days came to the full for circumcising him, his name was also called Jesus, the name called by the angel before he was conceived in the womb.
Acts 4: 12 Furthermore, there is no salvation in anyone else, for there is not another name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.”
John 5: 43 I have come in the name of my Father, but YOU do not receive me;
Mark 9:38-39 "John said to him: "Teacher, we saw a certain man expelling demons by the use of your name and we tried to prevent him, because he was not accompanying us." But Jesus said: "Do not try to prevent him, for there is no one that will do a powerful work on the basis of my name that will quickly be able to revile me;"
John 10: 25 Jesus answered them: “I told YOU, and yet YOU do not believe. The works that I am doing in the name of my Father,
John 3:17 … He that does not exercise faith has been judged already, because he has not exercised faith in the name of the only-begotten Son of God.
Jehoshua - ‘Jehovah is Salvation’
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The most successful teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses and an amazing new book on the divine name
by slimboyfat injehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.
but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .
i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.
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johnamos
The original interpolation was 'Yahovah'. The modern "Jehovah" is a further corruption of Yahovah.
Thanks for pointing out ‘Yahovah’. I see that ‘E’ is not used, but I still fail to see how it is always said that the tetragrammaton consisting of consonants YHVH was infused with vowels used from ‘adonai’ and yet all other Hebrew names that only consist of consonants that need vowels infused in order to pronunciate them, there is never a claim the the word ‘adonai’ was used to arrive at these names.
If there is not any question or debate as to the correctness of these other Hebrew names, and if these names are said to mean ‘YHVH this’ and ‘YHVH that’, then it stands to reason that you would most definitely see a part of these names that are the same and what ever that part is (in this case it is JEHO), it seems very reasonable to conclude that that part should be in the correct name of the tetragrammaton. Also because the use of ‘Jah’ is not questioned this too should be found in the correct name of the tetragrammaton.
The spelling JEHOVAH meets both criteria.
JEHO vah
J ehov AH
"Jesus" is also a corrupted form of Yehoshua.
It’s funny that you mention that, because out of all the debate on rather the name Jehovah should be in the NT no one seems to care that the name Jesus is used instead of Jehoshua or at least Joshua.
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The most successful teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses and an amazing new book on the divine name
by slimboyfat injehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.
but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .
i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.
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johnamos
b) It is well known that the name "Jehovah" is an interpolation of the letters of the tatragrammon with the vowels of 'adonai', concocted by a catholic monk in the 13th century, and, therefore, it is impossible that represents the correct hebrew pronunciation;
Where is the vowel ‘E’ in ‘adonai’.
Are the vowels from ‘adonai’ also responsible for these names as well…Jehoshua , Jehoshaphat, Jah.
See post on page 10.
Why is it important to use God's name at all.
There are many reasons, but one that I think about is Ezekiel chapter 13. In that chapter it states that the stupid prophets mislead Jehovah’s people and are able to do so because they speak their lies as if what they say is coming from Jehovah himself.
The following shows one way how the use of the name of Jehovah can help identify who the stupid prophets are…
5-1-02 WT- The clergy are especially at fault. They refuse to use Jehovah’s name, even taking it out of their Bible versions.
6-1-91 WT- Like ancient Jerusalem, Christendom looks to worldly alliances for security, and her clergy refuse to take refuge in Jehovah. Why, they do not even use his name, and they mock and persecute those who do honor that name.
Teach Us book - We worship only Jehovah, we use his name, and we teach others God’s name and what he will do for us.
12-15-14 WT- As Jehovah’s Witnesses, we have the privilege of being called by his name. God promises us that he is on our side helping us.
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The most successful teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses and an amazing new book on the divine name
by slimboyfat injehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.
but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .
i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.
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johnamos
Follow the bouncing ball:
I am assuming that no one objects that in the verse below that YHVH [3068] and Joshua [3091] appears there.
Joshua 1:1 And it came about after the death of Moses the servant of Jehovah [3068] that Jehovah [3068] proceeded to say to Joshua [3091] the son of Nun, the minister of Moses:
For [3091] we have:
Yehoshua - Original Word: יְהוֹשׁ֫וּעַ - Jehoshua (short form: Joshua)
No one questions the original Hebrew word being translated in English as Yehoshua and even uses the J instead of Y as in Jehoshua.
Likewise in the follow verse [3092] for Original Word: יְהוֹשָׁפָט – Yehoshaphat - Jehoshaphat
2 Chronicles 17:1 And Je·hosh´a·phat [3092] his son began to reign in place of him and to make his position strong over Israel.
So far we have an example of two names in Hebrew יְהוֹשׁ֫וּעַ and יְהוֹשָׁפָט that no one has a problem with these names in English be tranlatated as Jehoshua and Jehoshaphat.
Now a step further, that was Hebrew to English now Greek to English:
Original Word: Ἰησοῦς – [2424] Iésous - Joshua
Hebrews 4:8 For if Joshua [2424] had led them into a place of rest, God would not afterward have spoken of another day.
Original Word: Ἰωσαφάτ, ὁ - [2498] Iósaphat - Jehoshaphat
Matthew 1:8 A´sa became father to Je·hosh´a·phat [2498]; Je·hosh´a·phat became father to Je·ho´ram; Je·ho´ram became father to Uz·zi´ah;
Again no one seems to question the correctness of the English names Jehoshaphat and Jehoshua (short form: Joshua) from Hebrew יְהוֹשָׁפָט and יְהוֹשׁ֫וּעַ.
So with that said take note of the vowels e & o.
Now bouncing along:
Original Word: יִרְמְיָה – [3414] Yirmeyah – Jeremiah
No one questions the correctness of this English spelling of this Hebrew name.
Notice the vowel, a.
Bouncing along:
Exodus 15:2 My strength and my might is Jah [3050], since he serves for my salvation. This is my God, and I shall laud him; my father’s God, and I shall raise him on high.
Original Word: יָהּ – [3050] Yah – Jah
No one questions the correctness of the use of Jah and again notice the vowel, a.
So we have the vowels e,o & a. (BTW, the whole using the vowels of ‘Adoni’ is nosense. There isn’t even an e in it.)
Now with those vowels taken from names that are not questioned and names that are said to mean:
Jehoshaphat “YHVH Is Judge” and Jehoshua “YHVH Is Salvation”
And a name (Jah) that is said to be a shortened form of YHVH, how could anyone not think that it would be appropriate that those vowels not be used in the YHVH and that the end result of this name we would see the short form Jah and see part of the name that is in Jehoshaphat and Jehoshua.
JHVH + E,O,A
JEHOvah
JEHOshaphat
JAH
JehovAH