Posts by johnamos

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Splane's "Apostate" talk transcript

by FFGhost in

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for any who can't (like me) muster the masochism necessary to sit through an 18-or-so hour commentary on a 30 minute talk from a certain famous/infamous commentator, here is a link to a transcript from splane's saturday afternoon "apostate" talk:.

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/ot7z2e/splanes_apostate_rant_transcription/.

there are many topics worthy of consideration, but this particular section really stood out to me:.

johnamos

Be like the Beroeans referred to at Acts chapter 17 and verses 10 and 11 Let’s read that. Acts 17:10,11 “Immediately by night the brothers sent both Paul and Silas to Beroea. On arriving, they went into the synagogue of the Jews. Now these were more noble-minded than those in Thessalonica, for they accepted the word with the greatest eagerness of mind, carefully examining the Scriptures daily [carefully examining the Scriptures daily] to see whether these things were so.”
Now, Paul compares the Beroeans with the Thessalonians. What do we know about the Thessalonians? They didn’t have YouTube in those days, but at one point, the Thessalonians apparently heard a rumor that “the day of Jehovah” had arrived. Who circulated the rumor? An apostate? Maybe. But maybe it was just someone who had heard the rumor and passed it on without checking it out.
Have you ever done that — passed on a report without checking the facts? I think all of us have to admit that we’ve been guilty of that at one time or another. But now, how did the Thessalonians react? They were alarmed. They were “quickly shaken from [their] reason.” We mustn’t let that happen to us. When you hear something, check it out; don’t just circulate it; don’t just believe it; check it out.

That's great advice David...all active JW's should listen to and follow that!

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What Will Happen If You Do NOT Get The Covid Vaccinations?

by minimus in

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we are encouraged to all, if possible, get the vaccinations.

if you don’t, we are told that we definitely could get the virus.

fair enough.. but what happens if you decide you aren’t going to get the shots?

johnamos

Of course surface transmission exist. Why do you think that on top of the six feet distance that they stopped shaking hands and went to stupid fist and elbow bumps. If it is on your hand and you touch your face you can get it. If it is on your hand and you shake someone's hand it can get on their hand and then when they touch their face they can get it. Hence, the not shaking hands and told to wash hands often. This has always been the known norm for all viruses and germs in general.

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The Last Day

by johnamos in

[7-1-98 wt – martha said of her dead brother, lazarus: “i know he will rise in the resurrection on the last day.” (john 11:24) how did she know that?

…she might even have learned this from jesus himself.

(john 6:39 - this is the will of him who sent me, that i should lose none out of all those whom he has given me, but that i should resurrect them on the last day.

johnamos

[7-1-98 WT – Martha said of her dead brother, Lazarus: “I know he will rise in the resurrection on the last day.” (John 11:24) How did she know that? …She might even have learned this from Jesus himself. (John 6:39 - This is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose none out of all those whom he has given me, but that I should resurrect them on the last day.) That “last day” coincides with the Thousand Year Reign of Christ.]

[9-1-78 WT - That everlasting life is to be enjoyed by the one gaining it, not on earth, but in the heavenly kingdom with Christ. He will enter into such life when he is resurrected by Jesus Christ at “the last day.” Those who, with Christ in the heavens, have such ‘life in themselves’ will be able to impart to others the benefits of Christ’s human sacrifice. They will do so when the redeemed ones of mankind are called out of their memorial tombs on “the last day.”—John 5:28, 29.]

[2-15-86 WT – It is understood that anointed Christians sleeping in death are raised at the sounding of “the last trumpet,”]

[Revelation 11:15 And the seventh angel blew his trumpet. And loud voices occurred in heaven, saying: “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ”]

[1 Corinthians 15:51 Look! I tell YOU a sacred secret: We shall not all fall asleep in death, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, 52 in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised up incorruptible, and we shall be changed.]

[Matthew 24: 30 …the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send forth his angels with a great trumpet sound, and they will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds, from one extremity of the heavens to their other extremity.]

[1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 For this is what we tell YOU by Jehovah’s word, that we the living who survive to the presence of the Lord shall in no way precede those who have fallen asleep in death; because the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice and with God’s trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first. Then we the living who are surviving will, at the same time with them, be caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and thus we shall always be with the Lord.]

1914>>>>>>>1918>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>202?/3?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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Genesis 18:27

by JPG123 in

in genesis 18:27 it says:.

but abraham again responded: “please, here i have presumed to speak to jehovah, whereas i am dust and ashes.. but when referencing the interlinear translation of the old testament, it clearly uses the hebrew word “adonai” instead of “yahweh” in this verse.

was abraham referring to god as “lord” in this verse?.

johnamos

[18:27 But Abraham went on to answer and say: “Please, here I have taken upon myself to speak to Jehovah,* whereas I am dust and ashes]

*See vs 3 ftn.

[18:3 Then he said: “Jehovah,* if now, I have found favor in your eyes, please do not pass by your servant.]

*This is the first of 134 places where the Jewish Sopherim changed YHWH to ʼAdho·naiʹ. This substitution was made out of misapplied reverence for God’s name. See App 1B.

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Vice doc spotlights Jehovah’s Witnesses

by Rattigan350 in

https://www.c21media.net/news/vice-doc-spotlights-jehovahs-witnesses/.

us cable network vice tv will debut an original documentary that claims to uncover corruption and abuse within the jehovah’s witnesses community.. vice versa: crusaders, which will air on july 28, is part of the channel’s vice versa brand, known for docs including fear of a black quarterback and the neglected pandemic.. the project comes from hollywood director aaron kaufman, who was shunned by his jehovah’s witness family after investigating paedophilia within the organisation.. crusaders is directed by kaufman and executive produced by lauren terp, as well as daniel levinson and robert fernandez for us-london prodco moxie pictures, and danny gabai and andrew freston for vice studios.

executive producing for vice tv is catherine whyte.. kaufman said: “after witnessing first-hand the cycle of abuse that runs deep within the jehovah’s witnesses, i could not rest until the dark truth of this organisation was brought to light.

johnamos

And for this women that says that her mom abused her and drowned kittens, she said that she went to the elders and they did nothing...I have no reason to doubt her and I am sorry for whatever she went through, but I just wonder did she tell her dad? Did she tell the police?

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Vice doc spotlights Jehovah’s Witnesses

by Rattigan350 in

https://www.c21media.net/news/vice-doc-spotlights-jehovahs-witnesses/.

us cable network vice tv will debut an original documentary that claims to uncover corruption and abuse within the jehovah’s witnesses community.. vice versa: crusaders, which will air on july 28, is part of the channel’s vice versa brand, known for docs including fear of a black quarterback and the neglected pandemic.. the project comes from hollywood director aaron kaufman, who was shunned by his jehovah’s witness family after investigating paedophilia within the organisation.. crusaders is directed by kaufman and executive produced by lauren terp, as well as daniel levinson and robert fernandez for us-london prodco moxie pictures, and danny gabai and andrew freston for vice studios.

executive producing for vice tv is catherine whyte.. kaufman said: “after witnessing first-hand the cycle of abuse that runs deep within the jehovah’s witnesses, i could not rest until the dark truth of this organisation was brought to light.

johnamos

How sad it is that these people in the documentary are so naive. I guess I shouldn't expect less due to the fact that they were a JW at some point.

This is a counter-productive documentary. On the one hand it is great to come forward and expose any and all child abuses cases. Yes show that it is a problem within the WTS, show that they try to cover it up, etc. But when they start talking about Armageddon and paradise earth and living forever, etc...and they try to make that part of the false teachings of the WTS, that is where the documentary looses credibility and it aids to the JW beliefs about apostates.

Its one thing to bring to light the child abuse issues and the true false teachings such as 1914, 607, etc...but when they try to make Armageddon, etc...a false teaching then that is like they are saying the Bible is fiction and there is no God Jehovah/Jesus and this world is just how it is and there is no hope.

It is all very anti-Christian, anti-God...true apostates.

Its one thing to expose and break the faith and misplaced trust that JW's have for the WTS/GB, but it shouldn't also be done in regards to God and the Bible.

As I said, counter-productive.

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Vice doc spotlights Jehovah’s Witnesses

by Rattigan350 in

https://www.c21media.net/news/vice-doc-spotlights-jehovahs-witnesses/.

us cable network vice tv will debut an original documentary that claims to uncover corruption and abuse within the jehovah’s witnesses community.. vice versa: crusaders, which will air on july 28, is part of the channel’s vice versa brand, known for docs including fear of a black quarterback and the neglected pandemic.. the project comes from hollywood director aaron kaufman, who was shunned by his jehovah’s witness family after investigating paedophilia within the organisation.. crusaders is directed by kaufman and executive produced by lauren terp, as well as daniel levinson and robert fernandez for us-london prodco moxie pictures, and danny gabai and andrew freston for vice studios.

executive producing for vice tv is catherine whyte.. kaufman said: “after witnessing first-hand the cycle of abuse that runs deep within the jehovah’s witnesses, i could not rest until the dark truth of this organisation was brought to light.

johnamos

their site shows its on wed the 28th at 9pm...but what channel is VICE? anyone know where to watch this?

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Leaked David Spane Apostate Rant? (Upcoming Lloyd Evans Video)

by Jofi_Wofo in

lloyd has a reminder set for a "leaked" video that he will be reviewing tomorrow, but it lacks details in the description.

does anyone know what video he is referring to, or is this an upcoming loyd evans exclusive?.

i find leaks exciting, especially if it's something that was never meant to be public and puts some serious egg on the faces of the blundering body..

johnamos

Since David is claiming not to believe negative news reports about JW's and that the settling out of court is not due to JW's being guilty, then if this is about the CSA cases, then won't elders and any other JW's that personally know of these cases (especially the victims themselves) know that David is lying...this is really going to backfire.

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KH's Still All Closed- How Bad is WT doing Financially?

by OnTheWayOut in

most churches are back to in-person worship.

not jehovah's witnesses.

is watchtower still managing to fleece the flocks as the sheeple no longer get literature, no longer go to the kh, no longer walk past the donation box?

johnamos

On the one hand ,,, On the other hand … On the 3rd hand

LOL, I couldn't help but think of this when reading that....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW8LvUvTZhA

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Ex JW Elder, COBE, Program Convention Overseer Speaks Out

by James Jack in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks1rghdxc1y&t=844s.

johnamos

LOL...I don't believe in Robert, I believe in the Bible. YES I also think he is a wacko. The people that comment on his site are even wackier. They claim to have woken up to the GB but they have just replaced them with Robert. Nevertheless, regardless of the messenger, truth is truth.

The WTS/GB are liars and teach lots of untruth but that does not negate the Scriptures.

Ezekiel 13:1-16 explains this very situation.