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  Is it 16?

  by Jrjw in

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  hi can anyone tell me if it's true the society says parents must take their child to meetings until they're 16 even if they don't want to?

  my ex is being a pain about me not forcing my 12 year old to be a witness.

  he doesn't know i'm becoming inactive at moment so i have to be careful how i word things to him.

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  AverageJoe1

  I was brought up to believe I would die at Armageddon if I wasn’t baptised. I asked this question when I was 15 and that’s what my mum told me. She added that since I was old enough to ask that question I was already accountable before Jehovah. That summer I got baptised. Coincidence? I think not!
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  Things society interferes with

  by Jrjw in

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  i was just lying here thinking about mind control and thought it'd write a list just to see how much the wts does try to control every aspect of people's lives.

  some of the things i've come up with are:.

  xmas,.

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  AverageJoe1

  I would question Father’s Day as that is only a very recent celebration as far as I am aware (commerce cottoned on to it not existing and given the commercial success of Mother’s Day....) I don’t even remember it being a thing at school in the 70s and 80s, only Mother’s Day. It is celebrated there on 18th June. Here in Spain on 19th March.

  My Dad is not a JW but my mum is and I always give my dad a card and a gift. I’ve never had any grief about it. My mum queried it as she is über JW whilst I’m a PIMO and I said it’s no more pagan than wedding anniversaries that JWs love so much.

  According to The Telegraph in the UK: (link)

  The idea originated in the USA and has been officially celebrated there on the third Sunday in June since 1966.

  The exact origins of what we now know as Father’s Day are disputed, though we do know the movement for a day which celebrated fatherhood began roughly 100 years ago.
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  JW.ORG Logo Denied Trademark Status by United States Patent and Trademark Office

  by jwleaks in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the jehovahs witnesses official web site logo incorporating jw.org has been refused registration by the united states patent and trademark office due to similarity to jw player.. section 2(d) refusal likelihood of confusionclass 42. for the reasons set forth below, the refusal under trademark act section 2(d) is now made final with respect to u.s. registration no(s).

  this refusal is limited to the class 42 services in the application.. applicants mark is jw.org & design, for use with, inter alia, providing a web site that gives computer users the ability to download audio and video recordings, dvds, music, digital print publications, online publications, documents, forms and web pages all in the field of religion, in class 42. the cited mark is jw player, for use with downloadable computer software for playing, viewing and streaming audio and video files in class 09.. .

  documents available to download at jw leaks.. http://jwleaks.org/2014/06/19/jw-org-logo-denied-trademark-status-in-the-united-states/.

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  AverageJoe1

  Anyone have a pdf to download of that document? That website is no longer up and running.

  The WTS have this to say in their latest Watchtower so I think they are lying about having trademark protection:

  April 2018 Watchtower Study Edition, Pages 30 & 31

  As is clearly stated in those Terms, no one is permitted to “post artwork, electronic publications, trademarks, music, photos, videos, or articles from this website on the Internet...”

  By securing copyright and trademark protection, we have a legal basis to prevent such misuse.
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  What Do You Do if the Household Does Not Celebrate?

  by BluesBrother in

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  it is christmas morning ....the weather outside looks cold grey and dismal (typical britain in winter ) the house is quiet as my wife gets on with something.

  .... the street is silent, as dead as the grave.

  the tv is full of the purile nonsense that fills airtime this time of year .

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  AverageJoe1

  At least there’s a new Dr Who on TV! Something to watch amidst all the crap on TV.
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  Is the name Jehovah`s Witnesses a misnomer ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i ask this because from what i read on this board lately is that they jw`s seem to be very reluctant to engage in conversation with anybody nowadays and are only interested in placing literature at carts.. and if anyone brings up questions in their d2d work that challenge them ( like the arc ) they will promptly excuse themselves and move on.

  also didn`t jesus say "this good news of the kingdom would be preached in all the inhabited earth " for a witness ?.

  when was the last time you heard a jw speak about "the good news of the kingdom" ?

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  AverageJoe1

  @The Fall Guy Isaiah 43:10 I'm guessing most would use.

  Thanks for that great list though, Colt Seavers!
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  Are Beards becoming more acceptable due to decline in membership?

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i noticed a young brother with a beard being given more privelages within our hall.

  when he first grew his beard, he lost his privelages.

  but more and more recently he has been helping out a lot more.. the cobe is old school and a stickler for rules, but with the hall becoming more empty these days, and the need for young brothers, he seems to have relaxed on this particular watchtower/man made rule.

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  AverageJoe1

  No field service if you have a beard? Then I'm moving there!!!!
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  Watchtower Philosophy Debates

  by Wild_Thing in

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  i was wondering how many of you still enjoy (or maybe you just feel the need) to discuss and debate jw doctrine and scripture.

  i find myself scrolling right past those topics i see online.

  i could care less.

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  AverageJoe1

  The phrase is "I couldn't care less". If you could care less, that means you DO care a little bit!

  Message sponsored by the grammar police!
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  Which Things Did Your Overzealous Parents Ban?

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  we all know the gb like to impose rules upon the rules... but did anyone else out there have parents that implemented rules upon those rules?

  mine did.

  my mum tended to copy whatever the elders wives were doing and took it to the extreme.

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  AverageJoe1

  • "Grange Hill" - classic series. Prefer the original theme tune though. Yep that was one of the things I watched at friends' houses as I wasn't allowed to watch that either.
  • "Now That's What I call Music" albums as the artists looked worldly!
  • Grotbags (Rod Hull & Emu spin-off)
  • He-Man, She-Ra, Thundercats, Dungeons & Dragons
  • Randall & Hopkirk Deceased
  • 15 & 18 rated films (12 rating didn't exist when I was in my teens; stupid rating anyway!)
  • X-Files
  • MJ's "Thriller" album
  • Guns n Roses
  • Neighbour's kids' birthday parties (obviously)
  • Raffle Tickets (even free ones)
  • A-Team
  • Neighbours, Home & Away, Coronation Street, Emmerdale Farm, Take The High Road, Eastenders

  Sounds like we had a similar upbringing!
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  CO Rose UK

  by jookbeard in

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  does anyone know this guy, where he came from?

  how he climbed the jw ladder, i have to say i know nothing about him but he seems to be kicking ass with the problems in the north of england..

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  AverageJoe1

  @Angel Of The North

  I never understood why EPAH cost so much to use since the WTS owns it!!!
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  Higher Education

  by Brian J in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just spent 8 hours in a 1 day elders school last weekend.

  clarification given: "moving forward any elder, ms, or pioneer who themselves or someone under their roof enrolls in higher education, may no longer qualify for privileges in the congregation.

  their qualifications will have to be reviewed by their boe.".

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  AverageJoe1

  Is that the one with the Ministerial Servants theme "How to attack an outline"?

  Honestly, the writing department really need to research their use of words more carefully.

  This year at our 5 day elder school, they hardly touched the subject of child abuse; they just mentioned that "we abhor it blah blah blah", "contact the branch immediately" and "don't dissuade anyone from going to the police". No change really. However, there were 5 of us (in a class of 30) talking about it in the break and we all agreed we would first call the police and let them deal with the crime whilst the other elders called the branch to deal with the sin!

  It's incredible in this day and age how there are still PIMI elders with all the hypocrisy in the organisation.