They can call Bethel, investigate all they want Gorby, (heck, when have the elders ever needed an excuse to investigate something?!) but they cannot and will not have a judicial committee unless there are two witnesses to the crime sin!
AverageJoe1
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Verify: latest elder book
by Gorbatchov infor research i want to verify this:.
- has the latest version of the elder book (recent) a new text about child abuse and put aside the 2 witness rule in these cases?.
need to clarify.. g..
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Eulogies
by redundantcartworker ini recently attended a non jw funeral at a local church.
during the service, a couple of friends/relatives of the deceased eloquently spoke for a few minutes about the deceased with some of their fond memories and gave heartfelt, respectful tributes.. would i ( a non jw) be given a few minutes to speak at either of my jw parents funerals at the kingdom hall ?.
i guess i already know the answer, but if the answer is "no", then why not and how would they hide the heartlessness of refusing ?
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@Pale Emperor
Not at the KH, but here in England at least we have another little eulogy at the crematorium where anyone who wants to can get up and speak.
I've already told my wife that if she dies before me then I will NEVER have a talk given in a KH. The purpose of a funeral should be to recall moments and honour the deceased, NOT give a public talk promoting JW ideals.
I've always preferred the crematorium talks for that very reason. Plus I asked my wife to promise me that if I die before her, then she will see to it that I don't get a recruitment talk given in a KH either nor in any other place. I just want people to remember the good times we all shared together then on to the wake/party to celebrate life!
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Another trolley (That's Cart to Americanos), encounter today.
by punkofnice ini couldn't bleedin' well resist it.
there were these 2 jobo blokes standing behind a jobot trolley.
jobo, 'what's that?'.
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@Giordano
Trolley's......... worse idea since lugging around portable record players to play a speech by that idiot Rutherford.
I don't know about that. I saw a couple yesterday who had the two trolleys set up next to each other, whilst the JWs were sat 100m from them in the bar having food and drinks. Nice easy ministry if you ask me!
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Verify: latest elder book
by Gorbatchov infor research i want to verify this:.
- has the latest version of the elder book (recent) a new text about child abuse and put aside the 2 witness rule in these cases?.
need to clarify.. g..
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AverageJoe1
No changes in the elder's book as of yet, Gorby.
As Smiddy said, it was in a Broadcasting episode a couple of months back that the GB will never change their "two witness" policy.
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Anyone watching Star Trek Discovery?
by Coded Logic inso i've been watching the show and really enjoying it.
great to see a trek tv series finally get a reasonable budget.
beautiful costumes, sets, cinematography, action pieces, etc.. really my only complaints are how cg all the ships look and there's a fair bit of stiff dialog from time to time.. what do you guys think of the show?.
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@Nancy Drew
I’ve watched 2 episodes of Counterpart now and it looks promising.
@Lisa Rose
Yes, I know the one you mean and I loved it.
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Watch Tower's eBay account
by neat blue dog inthe last post about the violin for sale got me to looking at their ebay account which says it's based in wallkill.
they've got over 200 items for sale, most obsolete electronics that are grossly overpriced.
among them are used hard drives, like this one:.
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AverageJoe1
That’s ridiculously expensive for a 300Gb hard drive! Who would buy a second hand one anyway? For few Euros more you can buy a 1Tb one with 2 years guarantee on Amazon.
Those chaps at Warwick really ARE deluded!
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2 BOE's arrived-2018 Newsletter and Visitor Centre Update!
by Atlantis in2 boe's arrived.. .
2018-01-20--chelmsford visitor centre update.
https://we.tl/wkfhroydcs.
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AverageJoe1
Has anyone got a copy of the Newsletters 1 to 4, please?
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Anyone watching Star Trek Discovery?
by Coded Logic inso i've been watching the show and really enjoying it.
great to see a trek tv series finally get a reasonable budget.
beautiful costumes, sets, cinematography, action pieces, etc.. really my only complaints are how cg all the ships look and there's a fair bit of stiff dialog from time to time.. what do you guys think of the show?.
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@Sparrowdown
Of course you are. Why do you say that? Just because people like me don’t think much of it, doesn’t mean we can’t understand the people that do. Look at @finallysomepride ‘s comments to me. Each to his own.
@Nancy Drew
I love The Orville. Apart from the weird name for a ship (older folks from the UK will be thinking of a green duck who thinks he can’t fly, accompanied by a man called Keith Harris), I thought the stories just got better and better as they got the balance of humour and drama sorted. It has a Star Trek feel to it, even some of the background music in it.
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I gave up The 5th Dimension for Jehovah
by compound complex ingreetings, old timers (in particular):.
of course, we don't share all views in common.
unless i'm mistaken, however, we older, former jws were decisive about what our "bible-trained consciences" would allow -- or not.
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@finallysomepride
Bat Out Of Hell - great album choice! Didn't Jim do an album with Bonnie Tyler too?
later I obtained those recordings I had given up
I can relate to that as I've done the same. Just last week I acquired an album by KISS, albeit a "best of" as I had always been told they were demonic. Then I heard a track that I didn't realise was by them, Googled a bit and then realised that they were just another of many groups labelled falsely (by JWs and other self-righteous religions) as Devil worshippers.
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Anyone watching Star Trek Discovery?
by Coded Logic inso i've been watching the show and really enjoying it.
great to see a trek tv series finally get a reasonable budget.
beautiful costumes, sets, cinematography, action pieces, etc.. really my only complaints are how cg all the ships look and there's a fair bit of stiff dialog from time to time.. what do you guys think of the show?.
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@finallysomepride
Take offense at a fellow Star Trek fan? NEVER! That's the great thing about sci-fi fans: such broad tastes.
As for the swearing, I was referring to Star Trek itself. Although I'm not a fan of the "f" word in entertainment, I appreciate that it adds realism in places. I just didn't expect it in Star Trek.
Are you a Father Ted fan by the way? ("Feck, arse, girls, drink"!) That's Father Dougal in my Avatar. Rather apt really as most JWs are very confused about life in general AND their own beliefs! ha ha
I thought the sets on STC were very true to the original and it was a nice touch for them to film in 4:3 format like the original. If CBS got on board I'm sure it would be an amazing mainstream production.
Thanks for the feedback mate. LLAP
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Stop looking for them, then you might enjoy it, look forward, honor the past
OK. I'll give it another go!