Posts by AverageJoe1

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Impact of GDPR on WT HQ and EU branches?

by respectful_observer in

curious if any of our eu-based members (especially those still in) have heard anything from official wt channels on how the organisation plans to be in compliance with gdpr ("general data protection regulations") by may 2018?

it's my understanding that religious organisations must comply, and that religious data is treated a "protected" and therefore subject to some enhance requirements.. specifically, how will they comply with the following requirements:.

you must disclose to the individual: what data you collect on them, why, and what you do with the data (including what other parties receive the data and what they do with it).

AverageJoe1

@zboubiz

At the elders meeting we were told who refused to sign and that they displayed an “unchristian, rebellious attitude”. Then my wife tells me that some sisters in the cong were talking about who hadn’t signed it and how they didn’t have any privileges (I’m guessing here that the elders told their wives).

The families that have refused to sign have had all their privileges removed: they can’t participate in the program from the platform (so no CLAM assignments, no reading parts, no handling microphones, nothing)!

@respectful

Then in the “Spiritual Gems” Talk, the brother spent 5 minutes talking about “loyalty” to Jehovah and his Organisation by signing the GDPR form and how by not doing so it revealed a bad attitude. I was so taken aback that I didn’t even think to record it. I should have in hindsight.

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Impact of GDPR on WT HQ and EU branches?

by respectful_observer in

curious if any of our eu-based members (especially those still in) have heard anything from official wt channels on how the organisation plans to be in compliance with gdpr ("general data protection regulations") by may 2018?

it's my understanding that religious organisations must comply, and that religious data is treated a "protected" and therefore subject to some enhance requirements.. specifically, how will they comply with the following requirements:.

you must disclose to the individual: what data you collect on them, why, and what you do with the data (including what other parties receive the data and what they do with it).

AverageJoe1

Not a lot of impact really. We’ve had 3 families in our hall not sign anything despite the elders naming and shaming them amongst themselves and then having all their privileges removed.

WT are helping the R&F to wake themselves up!

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2018-05-18-BOE--Instructions For Circuit Accounting!

by Atlantis in

2018-05-18-s-331-e-boeinstructions for circuit accounting6-pageshttps://we.tl/lm1hgyqxe3atlantis!.

AverageJoe1

Or in layman’s terms: “How to cook the books”!

Will have a read later. Thanks Atlantis. Does it have a paragraph that says, “always start your assembly announcements with, ‘brothers we have a deficit’”?!

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HOURGLASS!--What Do We Know About It?

by Atlantis in

your assistance and opinions will be very much appreciated.

a friend sent me the information listed below wanting to bring some attention to the website hourglass.. i myself know very little about the site other than the information i received today.

perhaps there are others here that could shed some light.. is this a dangerous site?

AverageJoe1

unless some over-zealous secretary sat down and manually transferred all of the data from every publisher who has ever reported time in his congregation.

@stillin: I know several of these!!!

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HOURGLASS!--What Do We Know About It?

by Atlantis in

your assistance and opinions will be very much appreciated.

a friend sent me the information listed below wanting to bring some attention to the website hourglass.. i myself know very little about the site other than the information i received today.

perhaps there are others here that could shed some light.. is this a dangerous site?

AverageJoe1

I'm not sure I agree with your point Anders (or more than likely I've misunderstood it):

1) As long as the congregations properly inform their victims where their data is stored, how, and why, gdpr is followed.
2) Compare this with web server providers: the providers are responsible for keeping any data stored with them safe, but they are not expected (or even allowed) to honor data removal requests for any of the websites their customers are running on their servers.

1) That's the point. The Rank & File have no idea that their data is stored this way! Even if you're an inactive JW then all your data is still on here!

2) What about all the DCMA notices that Google responds to? The former owner of AvoidJw.org was found out because both Google and GoDaddy ratted him out the moment WT complained to them.

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Hospitality - How not to.....March 2018 study article.

by punkofnice in

what do you make of this part of the march 2018 watchtower study edition?.

2 among other things, peter urged his brothers: “be hospitable to one another.” (1 pet.

4:9) the word “hospitality” in greek literally means “fondness for, or kindness to, strangers.” note, however, that peter urged his christian brothers and sisters to be hospitable “to one another,” to those whom they already knew and associated with.

AverageJoe1

Philóxenos by definition means love/fondness/affection for strangers (from the Greek word for love, Philía and the exact opposite of xenophobia) so of course this means you should be hospitable or kind to ALL.

The Bible also makes this point saying that if you are just kind to those you know then it’s no big deal (“even the nations do this” or words to that effect.)

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Did You Care About The Royal Wedding?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i don’t get it.

who really cares?

in the usa, it’s such a huge newsworthy event.

AverageJoe1

Loved the wedding as a Brit plus I loved the looks on the faces of the old school folks as Bishop Michael gave a GREAT wedding talk, way better than anything JW Broadcasting can produce.

He said Jesus was the biggest revolutionary that ever lived as he preached God’s unconditional love for everyone, totally contrary to the Pharisees’ and WT’s teachings.

As for American’s interest in it, why not? Meghan Mariel has done more for US-UK relations than that idiot Trump could ever do.

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School for elders.

by asp59 in

just wonder what they teach in school for elders?

they always have this schools don't know if it's once a years or more.

just wonder what they learn.

AverageJoe1

The outlines are available on avoidjw.org if you can manage to wade through reading them!

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JW MATCH——Is this an acceptable site for JWs?

by minimus in

jw
friends

how does watchtower.org feel about this site for jehovah’s witnesses who want to find a partner?.

AverageJoe1

It’s not run by JWs. It’s a ... wait for it... “worldly” site who have realised there’s a market to be made with hooking up JWs.

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Today's Watchtowe Study, Child Baptism

by BluesBrother in

suffice to say that i fundamentally disagree with the point of this article, a cynical attempt to boost numbers.

it goes against bible precedent and their own long standing practice.

they timothy as an example of a youthfull christian, a young man.. sure but he was not baptized young .

AverageJoe1

@slimboyfat

My mother told me if I was old enough to ask if I’d be destroyed at Armageddon for not being baptised, then I was already accountable to God. Seeing as the end of this system was coming before the year 2000 I got baptised as a child out of fear!