anyone else want to join? we'll be partaking in the bread and wine...no sing alongs and no talk...just reading the account on the Bible...
:o)
anyone else want to join?
we'll be partaking in the bread and wine...no sing alongs and no talk...just reading the account on the bible.... :o).
anyone else want to join? we'll be partaking in the bread and wine...no sing alongs and no talk...just reading the account on the Bible...
:o)
guys, i have faded about a 1 month ago...now 1 elder, who i consider a friend as a person and like a father is texting me.... i don't hate the guy, i consider him my friend even though i don't believe what he believes...he's telling me he hasnt seen me at the meetings and he's worried...he asked me if i could go in service with him this weekend...i have not responded, i dont know what to say since i don't want to go through no judicial committee or something like that...nobody there knows i know ttabtt...any suggestions on how i should respond?.
thanks!.
I have stopped preaching as well...I'm not going to respond and let them use their imagination...
guys, i have faded about a 1 month ago...now 1 elder, who i consider a friend as a person and like a father is texting me.... i don't hate the guy, i consider him my friend even though i don't believe what he believes...he's telling me he hasnt seen me at the meetings and he's worried...he asked me if i could go in service with him this weekend...i have not responded, i dont know what to say since i don't want to go through no judicial committee or something like that...nobody there knows i know ttabtt...any suggestions on how i should respond?.
thanks!.
guys, I have faded about a 1 month ago...now 1 elder, who I consider a friend as a person and like a father is texting me...
I don't hate the guy, I consider him my friend even though I don't believe what he believes...he's telling me he hasnt seen me at the meetings and he's worried...he asked me if I could go in service with him this weekend...I have not responded, I dont know what to say since I don't want to go through no judicial committee or something like that...nobody there knows I know TTABTT...any suggestions on how I should respond?
thanks!
so as some of you already may know, i have stopped going to meetings for good and have nothing to do with wbts anymore...did not write a letter of disassociation because i dont believe an organization should spiritually execute me for rejecting men's tradition and false doctrine...some of you may recall i spoke to my wife and are in good terms, even though she's still an active jw.
my parents are both active jw's...when i visited them yesterday, they clearly did not expect me to tell them i had left the "org"...to my huge surprise, after i explained to them i had found ttatt (truth about the truth) and gave compelling evidence of my reasoning, and using the scriptures, they totally sided with me...i was dumbfounded...one of my parents even brought up ray franz and his book coc....i was like wtf??.
they told me all of these years they never had the guts to say anything about the hypocrisy in this org and they were glad that i as their son was able to step up and believe what is right and what is on the bible...they re-assured their love to me and they were happy i had found happiness in jesus christ and the need to have a personal relationship with him and not through a man made organization.... i totally did not expect this response from my parents...but it just leaves me to think that there are thousands of active jw's out there feeling the same way and don't have the courage to step up to the org...still don't know what they are going to do, but i got the feeling they will do the same eventually and move on from the wbts.... have a great week everyone.
likeabird:
Thanks for your wishes!....I know my parents didn't say anything because I'm sure they wanted what was best for me...however, they realized I'm no longer a kid and have my own reasoning and beliefs now...just so happens they agreed with me and huge weight was lifted off our shoulders now... :o)
i have been reading steven hassan's books as well studying like never before.
my wife has seen the amount studying i am doing, just hasnt known what all subjects instudy.
over the last few weeks i've slowly shared certain things.
Witness 707 -
WOW! lol
so as some of you already may know, i have stopped going to meetings for good and have nothing to do with wbts anymore...did not write a letter of disassociation because i dont believe an organization should spiritually execute me for rejecting men's tradition and false doctrine...some of you may recall i spoke to my wife and are in good terms, even though she's still an active jw.
my parents are both active jw's...when i visited them yesterday, they clearly did not expect me to tell them i had left the "org"...to my huge surprise, after i explained to them i had found ttatt (truth about the truth) and gave compelling evidence of my reasoning, and using the scriptures, they totally sided with me...i was dumbfounded...one of my parents even brought up ray franz and his book coc....i was like wtf??.
they told me all of these years they never had the guts to say anything about the hypocrisy in this org and they were glad that i as their son was able to step up and believe what is right and what is on the bible...they re-assured their love to me and they were happy i had found happiness in jesus christ and the need to have a personal relationship with him and not through a man made organization.... i totally did not expect this response from my parents...but it just leaves me to think that there are thousands of active jw's out there feeling the same way and don't have the courage to step up to the org...still don't know what they are going to do, but i got the feeling they will do the same eventually and move on from the wbts.... have a great week everyone.
CHASERIOUS:
They are pretty active...we all got baptized about 20 years ago...however, and I'm quoting my mom's words, they have never felt close to Jehovah or Jesus...they have always been miserable...
For all of you that are in the same boat and are trying to talk to your parents, loved ones, or friends...do not EVER go with the intention of debunking the WBTS or owning their faith...just explain you're moving on for personal reasons...you will see that eventually they will come after you for an explanation and that's when you can open up...
In my case I do not plan to talk to anyone else about this...in my case, I only felt that my wife and parents needed to know, nobody else...
so as some of you already may know, i have stopped going to meetings for good and have nothing to do with wbts anymore...did not write a letter of disassociation because i dont believe an organization should spiritually execute me for rejecting men's tradition and false doctrine...some of you may recall i spoke to my wife and are in good terms, even though she's still an active jw.
my parents are both active jw's...when i visited them yesterday, they clearly did not expect me to tell them i had left the "org"...to my huge surprise, after i explained to them i had found ttatt (truth about the truth) and gave compelling evidence of my reasoning, and using the scriptures, they totally sided with me...i was dumbfounded...one of my parents even brought up ray franz and his book coc....i was like wtf??.
they told me all of these years they never had the guts to say anything about the hypocrisy in this org and they were glad that i as their son was able to step up and believe what is right and what is on the bible...they re-assured their love to me and they were happy i had found happiness in jesus christ and the need to have a personal relationship with him and not through a man made organization.... i totally did not expect this response from my parents...but it just leaves me to think that there are thousands of active jw's out there feeling the same way and don't have the courage to step up to the org...still don't know what they are going to do, but i got the feeling they will do the same eventually and move on from the wbts.... have a great week everyone.
Thanks guys...
at DATA:
if they weren't awakening, I think at least my information and evidence would have at least cast sincere doubts in their hearts...I'm glad this information came from their son and not another source, as I think it had more of an impact coming from one of their own...
for anyone out there that's trying to do the same, what I did was to tell them I was leaving for personal reasons and would not want to give details why...I told them at first I do not want to be a master of my parent's faith, but they kept wanting to hear more and more about TTATT and so I preached away! :o)
so as some of you already may know, i have stopped going to meetings for good and have nothing to do with wbts anymore...did not write a letter of disassociation because i dont believe an organization should spiritually execute me for rejecting men's tradition and false doctrine...some of you may recall i spoke to my wife and are in good terms, even though she's still an active jw.
my parents are both active jw's...when i visited them yesterday, they clearly did not expect me to tell them i had left the "org"...to my huge surprise, after i explained to them i had found ttatt (truth about the truth) and gave compelling evidence of my reasoning, and using the scriptures, they totally sided with me...i was dumbfounded...one of my parents even brought up ray franz and his book coc....i was like wtf??.
they told me all of these years they never had the guts to say anything about the hypocrisy in this org and they were glad that i as their son was able to step up and believe what is right and what is on the bible...they re-assured their love to me and they were happy i had found happiness in jesus christ and the need to have a personal relationship with him and not through a man made organization.... i totally did not expect this response from my parents...but it just leaves me to think that there are thousands of active jw's out there feeling the same way and don't have the courage to step up to the org...still don't know what they are going to do, but i got the feeling they will do the same eventually and move on from the wbts.... have a great week everyone.
So as some of you already may know, I have stopped going to meetings for good and have nothing to do with WBTS anymore...did not write a letter of disassociation because I dont believe an organization should spiritually execute me for rejecting men's tradition and false doctrine...some of you may recall I spoke to my wife and are in good terms, even though she's still an active JW
My parents are both active JW's...when I visited them yesterday, they clearly did not expect me to tell them I had left the "org"...to my HUGE surprise, after I explained to them I had found TTATT (truth about the truth) and gave compelling evidence of my reasoning, and using the scriptures, they totally sided with me...I was dumbfounded...One of my parents even brought up Ray Franz and his book COC....I was like WTF??
They told me all of these years they never had the guts to say anything about the hypocrisy in this Org and they were glad that I as their son was able to step up and believe what is right and what is on the Bible...they re-assured their love to me and they were happy I had found happiness in Jesus Christ and the need to have a personal relationship with him and not through a man made organization...
I totally did not expect this response from my parents...but it just leaves me to think that there are thousands of active JW's out there feeling the same way and don't have the courage to step up to the ORG...still don't know what they are going to do, but I got the feeling they will do the same eventually and move on from the WBTS...
have a great week everyone
what would you tell or ask these group of men if they called you in for a meeting?.
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what would you tell or ask these group of men if they called you in for a meeting?
the newbies are pooring in....... curious.......can any of you new folks confirm the sentiment of the publishers regarding the new light that the governing body is the faithful and discreet slave?
has anyone even noticed??
what's the word on the street?.
I asked my wife if she knew and she said no...I said it's on jw.org!
She said well hasn't that always been the case?...I said no!
She just seemed clueless, blindsided... but she said she accepts every teaching because the GB "has" the holy spirit...
I just left it at that...