To Mouthy, Hi!
You can be my grandma, because I have lost both of my grandma's to the JW's. They both will not talk to me and I'm dead in their eyes. That has been the hardest part. So I will be your granddautgher and you can be my grandma. Deal?
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hello, i am new and i feel soooo wrong about being here.
anyway i am an m.s and have been disillusioned ever since the new understanding that came out in october.
i have read many things on this board that i have and also have not thought about.
To Mouthy, Hi!
You can be my grandma, because I have lost both of my grandma's to the JW's. They both will not talk to me and I'm dead in their eyes. That has been the hardest part. So I will be your granddautgher and you can be my grandma. Deal?
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hello, i am new and i feel soooo wrong about being here.
anyway i am an m.s and have been disillusioned ever since the new understanding that came out in october.
i have read many things on this board that i have and also have not thought about.
Welcomed MSconcerned. I pray to God for you to help on your journy.
Believe it or not, most of the people on here aren't true apostates. If you look in the dictionary on what an apostate means, you will see a "true" apostate is one who goes against God basically. The WTS has everyone believing if you goes against them it equals going against God. The ironic things is, the WTS is the true apostate because they are going against God and now are very close to even denying his son.
I haven't read any of the other comments, but a good book to read if Crisis of Conscience by Ray Franz, he was an ex GB member. I haven't read it yet, but my parents have and have told me things in the book. I'm going to start reading it today. Also check out jwfacts. Both of these are real eye openers.
I hope now you can find your way back to God and his Son, its' a hard journy, but it's worth it! And the peace that comes over you will provve you are on the right path back to Gods favor. It's going to be hard but don't lose your faith in the Almighty!
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i'm a new member & i'd like to say hi to everyone, intoducing myself.. i am a 3rd generation born-in at mid 50's & an active elder.. english is not my mother language, so pls ignore any grammatical errors.
i live in a small country in europe.. i'd like to thank you for all information posted.
some of them have rally helped me to understand and examine again my beliefs.. last new light concerning f&ds=gb has verified the idea that they are popes in the position op pope.. i still believe in god & in his son jesus christ but not in the gb..
Welcome Promithas.
The "new light" on the F&DS=GB is one of the many reason's why I myself have left and I think we are going to see more and more people joining us here because of that.
I'm so glad to hear you haven't lost your faith in God and his Son. That is the one thing that will sustain you and reading his word the Bible.
Welcome!
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there is discussion of doomsday cults at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/doomsday_cult, and much of it aligns closely with watchtower predictions and behaviour, so i was wondering why jehovah's witnesses are not mentioned.
here are some quotes from the article:.
doomsday cult is an expression used to describe groups who believe in apocalypticism and millenarianism, and can refer both to groups that prophesy catastrophe and destruction, and to those that attempt to bring it about.
kurtbethal:
badges are coming to distinguish real christian effort!
1. badges: i want my badge to be different from the other brothers and sisters badges coming!
the society has realized they can't live without us and now they are giving us a little something extra ,it's going to be a blast!
The dubs are going to have a small Sparlock shaped pin.
Or the "apostate" could take Sparlock as their badge. LOL. This thread is too much LOL.
i am still new to the business of fading and once i stop attending the memorial with all the dubs around me, my former friends will definitly put my shepherding call on hold.
i am sure some of the friends faded quick and never turn their back toward the kingdom hall again.
i am curious if others took a longer approach to fading and dropping off completly.
I'm still in the process of fading myself and the issue of the memorial has been something I've been desperately praying about and reading in the bible.
I will not go back to the K.H. because I can't associate with people who are liars and after reading the bible on what Jesus commended his followers to do and praying about it. I have come to the conclusion that all of Jesus followers are to partake. Not just the 144,000.
I'm not telling you want to do, I'm just sharing what I'm going to do. I'm going to make a nice meal that night and my husband and I are going to show our appreciation for the sacrifice at home and we are going to be partaking.
The best advice I can give you is read the bible accounts of the Lord's Evening Meal and pray about it. You still have time to figure out what to do, so don't be in a rush. But that is what my husband and I did and my parents also did the same thing. My parents are fading too :)
I pray for the Spirit to guide you.
G
another great catch by "the snarky apologist" on youtube......................................................i'm looking for this pdf can anyone give me a link.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hihh1_uc9s4.
I love Snarky! You rock! The WT has gone down, they just don't know it yet.
I think if Snarky and Sparlock teamed up the WT wouldn't stand a chance....
Sorry that was my attempt at humor...But seriously Snarky is awesome!
ok ,so this is my story , this jw girl came on vacation in my country as a friend of my girl-cousin who is not a jw but were classmates at uni .
my cousin introduced her to me but she didnt tell me that she was a jw from the very first moment we flirt each other.we went on beach ,on bars ,cafes etc and she acted so wordly ,in fact i thought she could be a good one night stand with her behaviour .never saw anything weird about her that could lead me to question something, with the peak in the club where we danced together while hugging very passionatly .
i tried to kiss her that night but she kept her distance , i didnt notice any bad on that.anyway, next day we flirt again at the the beach and at night too .
The feelings she is talking about comes from the cult mind-control. All JW's believe that is we go against the "rules" not dating a nonjw that God will kill us. I know it's hard to understand but it all comes down to fear. I have only recently broke free of the JW's and this so far has been the hardest thing I've had to do in my life.
I truly am sorry for you and the pain you are going through, but this girl is deep in the cult and it's very hard to break away because if you do...you lose your whole life in that you lose your family...they think of you as dead, and you lose ALL of your friends. The JW's control by using fear. Fear of God and fear of losing your friends and family...
Ask anyone on here, it's happened to all of us that we lost someone when we left. My Aunt, cousin and my grandmother all refuse to talk to me and they think I'm scum and God is going to kill me because I left. If she leaves the JW's, that is probably what she is fearing. Fear of God and of losing her family.
It's hard I really do feel for you, but read the book the other person told you Crisis of Conscience...Also if you want to understand the mentality behind cults and mind control, Read some of Steven Hassan's books.
I know it doesn't make sense to you, but you are not fighting her, you are having to fight the cult mentality she has been indocternated with probably her whole life. The the JW's have a strong control over all of the members, and it's very hard to break free of it. I've been out 3 months and I'm still having to fight the pull back to the cult.
I'm not sure if this helped, but the best thing you can do is try to understand the fear and control. I was the good little JW girl, and I knew this man who wasn't a JW and he was very kind to me and I liked him a lot, but the JW in me at the time won out and I never gave him the time of day. My husband has told me about the problems he had when he was in highschool dating a nonjw and when his parents found out, they forced him to break up with the girl and he is still bothered by how me treated her. He didn't give her a reason as to why he broke up with her either. And he left her heart broken.
Peace be with you!
i'm just curious how many of the wonderful people on here have gone to another religion?.
i recently left the wtb$ and the non-jw friends of mine are all inviting me to their church.
i politely decline the invite saying i'm not ready.
OMG Outlaw!!!!!! I love that!!!!!! That is the laugh I needed before work!
my husband and i have two small children, one of which recently became an unbaptised publisher and joined the school.
my husband is an elder and firmly committed to our family and loves me deeply as i love him.
i would like to find a way for all of us to fade away as we have family in the organization that we do not want to lose.
I did forget to mention something. Since my husband and I have left, we feel so free now when we read the bible. We no longer have those feelings of worthlessness that I've grown up with my whole life. Even as a regular pioneer, I still left like I was worthless and no matter what I did I was still not doing enough and I was going to die at armageddon.
Now after reading the bible, I actually think I have a chance. and the feelings of guilt and being unworthy are gone. Also please read Daniel 11:32-35 and pay attention to verse 35. Does it not feel like a fire in us when we start learning what the real truth is? These scriptures helped my husband and I.