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  HA! Take that Watchtower! One less Borg for you!!!!!

  by Gojira_101 in

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  last week a friend of mine contacted me out of the blue asking if we could have lunch together.

  my friend has been studing with the jw's on and off for about 11-12 years i think.

  she has told me everytime i see her that she can't wait for jehovah to end this evil world...she can't wait for the new system...the end is so close....etc.. i sent her a message back telling her that i left the jw's and asked her if she had heard that.

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  I love the fact I can finally comment to people individually instead of one post with 10 peoples name.

  Thank you so much everyone for the kind words. I'm trying my best with my friend and she actually contacted me several times yesterday asking me questions and expressing the struggle she was having with what she was researching.

  One of the things was she told me that she still had learned a lot from the JW's, so they still might be right.

  I told her that it wasn't the JW you learned it from, it was from the bible she learned it. If she had just picked up a bible and started to read it, she would have learned the same thing without the JW's help. She told me I was right.

  Then I also said that is the JW's lied even about one thing, what else did they lie about, and she said "that is a good point"

  I'm so happy she is coming to me, since I have been there and I understand her feelings and what she is going through right now (I went through the same thing), I can help her. I know her mind is a scrambled mess right now, so when it is, I can ask her questions to help her understand and think things through themselves.

  What is it WT taught us in the school? Ask questions to see what is in your bible studies heart to draw them out. WT screwed up by teaching me that!!!!

  I will keep posting updates when I have them.

  Gojira (I will never compromise my integrity)
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  HA! Take that Watchtower! One less Borg for you!!!!!

  by Gojira_101 in

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  last week a friend of mine contacted me out of the blue asking if we could have lunch together.

  my friend has been studing with the jw's on and off for about 11-12 years i think.

  she has told me everytime i see her that she can't wait for jehovah to end this evil world...she can't wait for the new system...the end is so close....etc.. i sent her a message back telling her that i left the jw's and asked her if she had heard that.

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  @ Giordano: Her girls are still young, and I made it clear to her that she it is when they grow up and if they reject the "truth" she can't have that much contact with them and she basically has to shun them.

  Me on the other hand if she talked to me and another mutual friend of ours who is an ex-jw, my deaf friend will be df'ed for talking to us.

  I should have made that more clear in my post, my brain wasn't working at full strength because of being so tired from the 4+ hours talking to someone in a language that is not my native language.

  The whole blood doctrine just makes me angry! With my friend she believes that no blood transfusion at all, so instead of telling her that belief is wrong I approached it from a different angle. I told her and explained how WT has changed changed that policy over the years and also with organ transplants. When saw how the policy has changed over the years and now that blood fractions are ok, she was disgusted. She said that if it was true there should be no changes. After that is when I showed her from the bible what the WT blood doctrine really was a conflict with the bible. I explained what the bible was really talking about with abstaining from blood. My whole goal wasn't to tell her she was wrong. Never once did I say SHE was wrong. I would show her how WT is wrong.

  I think that was part of the reason she opened up and was more accepting of what I told her, because I never "attacked" her or say she is wrong.

  Gojira
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  HA! Take that Watchtower! One less Borg for you!!!!!

  by Gojira_101 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  last week a friend of mine contacted me out of the blue asking if we could have lunch together.

  my friend has been studing with the jw's on and off for about 11-12 years i think.

  she has told me everytime i see her that she can't wait for jehovah to end this evil world...she can't wait for the new system...the end is so close....etc.. i sent her a message back telling her that i left the jw's and asked her if she had heard that.

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  @ ADCMS: My friend had said when she learned "the truth" she had already limited contact with her "worldly family"

  Just before we parted ways, she looked kind of sick when she said "I'm going to have to tell my family the JW's are wrong."

  I told her at least she still has family to go back to and her family will be happy to have her back.
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  HA! Take that Watchtower! One less Borg for you!!!!!

  by Gojira_101 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  last week a friend of mine contacted me out of the blue asking if we could have lunch together.

  my friend has been studing with the jw's on and off for about 11-12 years i think.

  she has told me everytime i see her that she can't wait for jehovah to end this evil world...she can't wait for the new system...the end is so close....etc.. i sent her a message back telling her that i left the jw's and asked her if she had heard that.

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  @ Julia Orwell: I'm sorry I haven't emailed too, it's been crazy busy. I sent a message yesterday :)

  I explained how I've been doing in my message yesterday. I can't wait to hear from you :)

  Gojira
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  HA! Take that Watchtower! One less Borg for you!!!!!

  by Gojira_101 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  last week a friend of mine contacted me out of the blue asking if we could have lunch together.

  my friend has been studing with the jw's on and off for about 11-12 years i think.

  she has told me everytime i see her that she can't wait for jehovah to end this evil world...she can't wait for the new system...the end is so close....etc.. i sent her a message back telling her that i left the jw's and asked her if she had heard that.

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  @ Jen2013: First off, welcome to the forum. You can have a lot of your questions answered on here, there are some people on here who have done a lot of research. *lost* has done some fantastic research, Newly Enlightened is my mother, Brother of the Hawk is my father.

  The WT I was referring to is the 1980 WT Feb 1st pg 11-13 "The divine name in later times" my mom, Newly Enlightened copied that WT to this topic. The info is the first post from the 2nd page.

  The NWT scripture says Romans 10:13 "Anyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved" It is interesting because the old diaglot bible the JW's back in the 40's says "Anyone who calls on the name of the Lord (Meaning Jesus) will be saved" Newly Enlightened also scanned that page of the diaglot if you want to see it. That scan is below the WT she posted.

  I sent you a PM. You check by clicking on the envelop in the top right corner by your name. If you get an error message, just click it again :)

  Gojira
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  HA! Take that Watchtower! One less Borg for you!!!!!

  by Gojira_101 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  last week a friend of mine contacted me out of the blue asking if we could have lunch together.

  my friend has been studing with the jw's on and off for about 11-12 years i think.

  she has told me everytime i see her that she can't wait for jehovah to end this evil world...she can't wait for the new system...the end is so close....etc.. i sent her a message back telling her that i left the jw's and asked her if she had heard that.

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  @ Steve2: There are personal reason I know about her that I can't mention and I really don't want to tell anyone her personal life. There are many factors involved with her not being baptized. Yesterday I know she was researching because she kept txt'ing me asking me to clarify some things.

  I do understand where you are coming from, but the things I saw in her are the same exact things I saw in myself, my parents and my husband. And the same things she said to me are the same exact things I have seen all the other ones who have awakened do and say.

  One good thing though, is because I have been there, and I understand the feelings and what she is going through, I can help her through it, whereas myself, I had to figure out everything alone.
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  HA! Take that Watchtower! One less Borg for you!!!!!

  by Gojira_101 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  last week a friend of mine contacted me out of the blue asking if we could have lunch together.

  my friend has been studing with the jw's on and off for about 11-12 years i think.

  she has told me everytime i see her that she can't wait for jehovah to end this evil world...she can't wait for the new system...the end is so close....etc.. i sent her a message back telling her that i left the jw's and asked her if she had heard that.

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  @ Black Sheep: The WT doesn't just come out and say it bluntly, but the inference is there. One thing you have to understand is deaf people because of their language and culture do not understand inference, those subtle hidden meaning information. It just doesn't work. WT has in their literature inferred that the person will be punished (df'ed) for talking to them.

  Also Black Sheep, I have done the research. It took a good 6 months after my awakening, but I know more about Wt then I ever have, even as a JW.

  (edited for spelling)
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  HA! Take that Watchtower! One less Borg for you!!!!!

  by Gojira_101 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  last week a friend of mine contacted me out of the blue asking if we could have lunch together.

  my friend has been studing with the jw's on and off for about 11-12 years i think.

  she has told me everytime i see her that she can't wait for jehovah to end this evil world...she can't wait for the new system...the end is so close....etc.. i sent her a message back telling her that i left the jw's and asked her if she had heard that.

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  Hi *lost*

  Sent you a PM
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  Mouthy Grace is not well. Please send love.

  by return of parakeet in

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  in another thread, mouthy said she was "not well" and mentioned "kicking the bucket.

  i believe she needs some encouragement and well wishes.. mouthy, you don't need to respond to this thread if you don't feel up to it.

  just consider it an exceptionally long get-well card..

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  Please feel better Grace! You always make this forum brighter :)

  Love Gojira
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  HA! Take that Watchtower! One less Borg for you!!!!!

  by Gojira_101 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  last week a friend of mine contacted me out of the blue asking if we could have lunch together.

  my friend has been studing with the jw's on and off for about 11-12 years i think.

  she has told me everytime i see her that she can't wait for jehovah to end this evil world...she can't wait for the new system...the end is so close....etc.. i sent her a message back telling her that i left the jw's and asked her if she had heard that.

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  Thank you for the nice compliments. The best way for us to understand how to reach out to people is we have to understand and study WT and know where all their flaws are...WT fails on EVERY level!!! I'm glad the things I mentioned to the few of you were able to help you :)

  To answer Ding and ADCMS: My friend is deaf and the "literature" the WT translates into ASL isn't what we see in the English printed publications. Like I told my friend, she has only seen a small part of the WTBT$, and that small part she knows for the most part "sounds right," but the bigger picture with WT is full of lies and deceptions

  The Watchtower lit I showed her, she had never seen before. I'm not sure when the WTBT$ started making the ASL dvd's and lit for deaf people but it was around 2000 and conveniently for WTBT$ they never translated the old WT lit into ASL. I've gone to the ASL cong. and it's only the recent stuff they translate into ASL, and guess what? They have NO English lit for the deaf, at least from what I saw.

  Of course if someone is studying for 11-12 years on and off it's very possible a deaf person doesn't see or know about the apostates. WTBT$ I believe is keeping the deaf and other foreign language groups in the dark by not providing the old lit...in my opinion the old lit is what damages WTBT$ the most, so why are they going to translate the old lit for a foreign language?

  Watchtower keeps everyone in the dark, and it's worse for someone who speaks a different language.

  Gojira