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  Another Jw myth exposed

  by uncle_onion in

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  ... http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/tenper.html.

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  uncle_onion

  cellomould

  I am interested in how you knew my name is John?

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  Another Jw myth exposed

  by uncle_onion in

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  ... http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/tenper.html.

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  ... http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/tenper.html

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  SPEAKING IN TONGUES

  by D wiltshire in

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  i am a believer in christ have been df'd since 7/01, but left the jw's in my heart for some time before that.. i feel that the gifts of the spirit didn't end in the 1st and 2nd century but should continue until the church is no longer on earth.. i have been to serveral different christian groups and have heard many speak in tongues, but to be honest i'm not very impressed.. it seems to be, not supernatural,.. but more like the reaction you get when you jump in very cold water, and get a terrible chill that makes your jaw vibrate.. the women seems to be the most prominent ones in speaking in tongues, so i wonder if it is just an emotional response, more than any thing else?.

  and if paul said to limit the speaking in tongues to just 2 and only if there is an interpeter, why does the speaking in tongues become so prominent at these meetings?

  and how come i never hear a translator interpet what is said?.

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  uncle_onion

  I explain the tongues in churches the same way I explain the tongues in voodoo....just some one getting a little too excited.

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  On the Discovery channel last night

  by uncle_onion in

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  last night i got home and turn on the tv.

  just finishing was a (uk) discovery program about a recently found piece of papyri that supposedly can be dated to the time of christ.

  did anyone watch this last night or have any info on it because as i understand it, the book of matthew has been dated a lot later than that.. uo

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  Last night I got home and turn on the TV. Just finishing was a (uk) Discovery program about a recently found piece of Papyri that supposedly can be dated to the time of Christ. Did anyone watch this last night or have any info on it because as I understand it, the book of Matthew has been dated a lot later than that.

  UO
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  Peter Barnes

  by uncle_onion in

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  has anyone heard of peter barnes?

  he used to be a co but apparently has left to start "praising the lord"?

  i think he used to be in the uk but may have gone to the us?.

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  Has anyone heard of Peter Barnes? He used to be a CO but apparently has left to start "praising the lord"? I think he used to be in the UK but may have gone to the US?

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  The WT fake chimp (for those who missed it)

  by Mr Ben in

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  after a discussion in the live chatroom i realised some did not know of the watchtowers fake chimp.

  i first saw it as a link on janhs old site, but i can no longer find the url for the original, which i believe was from the norwegian agnostic society, or something like that.

  the next time a dub calls on you ask them why they are forced to believe that chimpanzees do not have canine teeth.

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  now that is a conicidence. I have just started reading " The Blind watchmaker". Has any one else read this and what did they think of it?

  UO
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  Any ideas?

  by uncle_onion in

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  this weekend i spent the weekend with a few xjws.

  we had a nice weekend but eventually we got round to the subject of why i am having a problem accepting that jesus was the messiah.. a friend of one of them came around and he had brought an article which he wanted me to read.

  i have scanned the article and have posted it here.

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  This weekend I spent the weekend with a few XJWs. We had a nice weekend but eventually we got round to the subject of why I am having a problem accepting that Jesus was the messiah.

  A friend of one of them came around and he had brought an article which he wanted me to read. I have scanned the article and have posted it here. I intend to give him a full knock out response and would appreciate any URL addreesses etc where I can get info.

  Here is the article:

  Yet another series on TV has attacked the truth of the Gospel accounts of the life of the Lord Jesus. This time it claiyned that Jesus was just an ordinary prophet whom the Church a hundred years later made into a Christ whom they depicted as the divine Son of God, namely the Christ or Messiah prophesied in the Old Testament.
  It is interesting that one of the promoters of this programme was a Jewish rabbi who. of course, does not believe that Jesus was the Christ. But if it is admitted that the Old Testament does foretell such a person, whv is it not admitted that Jesus fulfilled all those scriptures? -
  Is such criticism to be trusted? After giving an initial false report on the Dead Sea Scrolls before all the. contents had been properly translated and assessed, one critic wrote a repentan, correction 15 ye@irs later saying that he jumped to conclusions on pre-existent assumptions and gave a tabloid journalist a sensational type of report.

  JESUS - MOST HISTORICAL OF ALL

  1 continue to get letters or see in newspapers the assertion that the picture of Jesus in the New Testament is not a factual one. This is often backed up with the assertion that there is little in history about the man Jesus Christ.

  Such statements are completely without foundation. They deceive only the people who have no knowledge of the facts.
  The New Testament story of the Lord Jesus has three times more evidence of its accuracy than anything about any of the Roman emperors; and many times more written copies of the original accounts. Compared with any event of history, the New Testament has abundantly more reliable documents.
  Professor F. F. Bruce of Manchester University says that Caesar's Gallic Wan with which many, students are familiar, has only nine old copies and the oldest of those is 900 years after Caesar's day, yet nobody questions those. In contrast, there are 5000 Greek manuscripts of the New Testament in whole or in part. The oldest full copies go back to about AD 330 and part of St John's Gospel which has survived, actually goes back to within a few years of St John's original writing.. we also have fragments of St Mark's Gospel and St James's letter and 1 Timothy which ai-e around AD 68.
  Of the works of the Roman historian, Livy, of Christ's time, only 20 old copies survive. The well-known Roman historian, Tacitus, has only four surviving old copies of his Annals. Contrast both of these with the 5000 old manuscripts of the New Testament.
  Concerning the famous history by Herodotus, the oldest copy of the original is 1,300 years after it was written. Professor Bruce conunents,

  'Yet no classical scho'lar would listen to an argument that the authenticitv of Herodotus was in doubt.'
  He then'reviews the wealth of evidence we have for the New Testament and shows what a contrast it is to secular history.
  A letter in the press from a sceptic questions whether Jesus Christ really figured in history. The answer is that He did. As many as eight non-
  Christian historians of the first century refer to Jesus Christ. They were Tacitus. Suctonius. Serapion. Phlegon, Lucian and Josephus, as well as references by Pliny and Thallus. Also. there are nine antagonist
  references to Jesus in the Jewish Talmud writings. In addition, the New Testament itself is more than sufficient evidence. Luke says that he wrote down his account from eyewitnesses carefully and accurately. That accuracy was confirmed by Sir Williarn R~ay. He started by being a sceptic. but he researched all the historical references and dates and incidents which Luke included in his account and found them completely accurate to the last detail.
  Professor F.F. Bruce writes, 'Attestation of another kind is provided by allusions to and quotations from the New Testament books in other early writings.' The authors known as the Apostolic Fathers wrote chiefly between AD90 and 160, yet in
  their works we find evidence for their acquaintance with most books of the New Testament.

  This is an extract from the book 'Evidence for truth:
  Archaeology'
  by Dr E.K. Victor Pewee,
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  Who started your heartbeat?

  by IWish4Truth in

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  .........and continues to make it beat?

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  Last week my son sat me down and asked me where did he come from. I though here we go and started to tell him everything."well I met your mother, we fel in love, and a man has a etc etc etc". At the end I wa rather embarressed and I said to him, "Why did you ask?" He replied " well Billy next door comes from London and I wanted to know where I came from"!!!!!
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  Your thoughts on this letter please.

  by sleepy in

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  here is an excerpt from a letter from the society.. jehovah has endowed us with free will.

  as such he has implanted in us the faculty of choice.

  he does not force us to act or think in a certain way, nor does he employ his sevants to do so ( 2 cor 3:17).

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  This reasoning is why I am what I am today. The Matthew 24 scripture is the reason why we have to do what we are told....you cant run ahead of the wonderful provision blah, blah...jehovah will correct it in his own time....

  A careful investigation of Matthew 24 would clearly show that Jesus was using a parable.If "he" was not then who was the third slave in the "slave" account in Luke 12:41-48.

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  go figure!

  by uncle_onion in

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  let me tell you all about my brother.. i love him to bits so please remember this when you are reading this post.. my brother is 20 years old and was away from the "truth" for about a year as he had a "worldly" girlfriend.

  about 4 months ago they broke up and suprise, suprise he started attending meetings again!.

  two weeks ago, he texted me on my cell phone for my neices number as they had lost touch and were good friends.

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  Let me tell you all about my brother.

  I love him to bits so please remember this when you are reading this post.

  My brother is 20 years old and was away from the "truth" for about a year as he had a "worldly" girlfriend. About 4 months ago they broke up and suprise, suprise he started attending meetings again!

  Two weeks ago, he texted me on my cell phone for my neices number as they had lost touch and were good friends. I gave it to him without thinking. About an hour later, he contacted me again and started to be abusive. He said that I should have told him that she was disfellowshipped Blah, blah, blah!!!! He went on for ages as if I had tried to set him up! I told him that it did not matter to me what she had done as she was still my neice. He thought differently!

  Well yesterday, he contacted me again to tell me that .......Next thursday it will be announced that he is disfellowshipped! What for? Sleeping with his girlfriend, sleeping with a girl that he met down the pub two weeks ago,smoking and smoking cananbis!His friend dobbed him in and he decided to come clean on everything!

  Go figure

  UO

  PS. It will be interesting to see what my mother does.She told me that if a member of the family (who still lives at home) were to start thinking like me and become an "apostate" she would have no hesitation in throwing them out to protect the rest of the family.