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  The lesson my child taught me today

  by Esmeralda in

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  i know that my child is well off.

  we're not rich, by any means.

  we're still in the post college, young years of marriage, just "starting out".

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  Undine

  Esmeralda,

  Thank you for telling us about this
  precious event in your life. Eloquently
  relayed...and I, for one, had my tear ducts
  opened. ~¿~

  Warmly,
  Undine
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  CO sheparding call today!!

  by mole in

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  thats right, the co along with one of the local elders paid an unexpected visit to my wife and i this morning.

  i was just busting at the seam to bring up the un fiasco but i refrained as they do not know i have made my journey to the darkside.

  my wife just glared with the "looks that kill" as they spewed the usual "time is near better not persue a career" line and i should be providing "spiritually" for the family.

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  Undine

  Mole,

  I got an urpy feeling just thinking of the
  "suited men" coming into my living space...

  You were very BRAVE this morning!
  Congratulations on "finishing up your schooling!"

  Undine
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  Wonderful news! Thank you all!!

  by freeman in

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  i want to thank so many of you for giving me the ammunition i needed to initiate actions that i hope will save at least one of my two children from the cult of the wtbts.

  i have been able to undertake some positive actions in no small measure because of all you people here.

  some of you may recall from earlier posts that two of my boys friends were dis-fellowed and that i went ballistic when my kids told me they were not allowed to talk to their best friends because the society says we cant.

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  Undine

  Freeman,

  What a touching experience! Brought tears
  to my eyes.

  Your son is SO fortunate to have you as his
  father. And I can only imagine the intensity of relief
  you felt at being able to really talk with him about
  these issues that the organization expects you to keep shrouded.

  My daughter was ten when her "elder" father began the process of
  twisting her mind against me, the "fallen witness." Five years have
  passed and his maniacal plot had hellish success insofar
  as Parental Alienation goes...

  Just keep the conversations flowing with your son.
  YOU ARE AN EXCELLENT FATHER!!! APPLAUSE!!!

  Undine

  Time is thirsty
  Gulping seconds...sipping minutes...
  Pouring hours into days, months, years...
  Life...Drink it in for time is unquenchable
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  Jon passed away this morning

  by jonjonsimons in

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  my name is kevin and i am jon's partner.

  jon gave me his password a few weeks ago and asked me to post to the board if something happened to him.

  as some of you know jon had been undergoing cancer treatment since the end of july.

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  Undine

  Kevin,

  Am very sad to know of your loss...
  My heart goes out to you.

  With Love,
  Undine
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  Our town just got hit by terrorists!!!!!!!!!!

  by MrMoe in

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  my boss just called on a cell phone - he went to arby's for lunch and 3 people of arabic decent ran in an threw some sort of chemical on the floor and ran out.

  us 41 was closed and he is being quarantined.

  i am worried - hope he is ok. hopefully this is a fluke, but i just don't know.

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  Undine

  Brutus,

  You SCREAMED at MrMoe and then said you're
  calling "BULLSHIT" on it!

  LEAVE HER ALONE!!!!!!!

  Undine

  SO WHAT if she didn't get the details straight...She is in DISTRESS!!!!!!!
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  PRINCE: The virtual evangelist?

  by Gopher in

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  that was the heading of a section in the minneapolis star-tribune's gossip column dated 8/12/01.

  prince rogers nelson, based in minneapolis, is an internationally famous musician-composer-singer of the 80's and 90's.

  recently he converted to the jw's.

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  ~Stephanus~

  I fully agree with you. I wondered what ever became of Dan Peek...(Dewey and Gerry formed again w/out him?) Hmmm...and yes...Prince
  as a jw??? This stretches my imagination!!!

  So, when you called him:"the-artist-futurely-known-as-an-apostate"
  it struck me as...Good humor!

  Namaste,
  Undine
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  PRINCE: The virtual evangelist?

  by Gopher in

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  that was the heading of a section in the minneapolis star-tribune's gossip column dated 8/12/01.

  prince rogers nelson, based in minneapolis, is an internationally famous musician-composer-singer of the 80's and 90's.

  recently he converted to the jw's.

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  ~Stephanus~

  You called him: "the-artist-futurely-known-as-an-apostate"

  HYSTERICAL!!!!!!!ô¿ô!!!!!!!!!

  Undine
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  What R U Reading lately?

  by Tina in

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  i'm interested in finding out what everyone is reading these days.. or what books have had an impact on your worldview since leaving the org.. what have you found helpful in re-constructing and broadening the way you think and feel?.

  what have you found to be particularly enlightening on 'your journey?'.

  thanks in advance,luv to all.tina.

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  Undine

  Ahhhhh...Books...Nice thread!

  Well...of course, Crisis of Conscience
  is right up there with my recently completed "worldview changing" books...

  But I must admit, after I left the organization, I majorly
  rekindled my intense love of reading good stories and NOT
  FEELING GUILTY over getting "lost" in them! That realization
  in itself was starkly eye-opening for me!

  Hmmm...everything by Amy Tan, Gail Tsukiyama, Memoirs of a Geisha
  was sublime (Golden), Nick Bantock!, Poetry by Rumi and Matsuo Basho,Andy Goldsworthy art books, Banana Yoshimoto (as a jw I would have deemed her writing totally verboten!) Sitting in a neat stack waiting for me are: Michener's, The Source; Undset's, 'Lavransdatter' Trilogy; Tom Robbin's, 'Fierce Invalids Home From Hot Climates.' Plus, all sorts of "children's" books!

  Harmony? You asked: "do any of you book lovers have a thing with needing to own the books you read?"

  YES and YES again!!! Owning them is half the pleasure!!! Many of them I purchase new and many at thrift stores...but actually OWNING THEM
  is...is...well you know how it is!!!!!!! ô¿*

  Undine
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  Van Morrison... Kingdom Hall

  by Simon in

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  ever heard that song?.

  "lord, they were dancing down at the kigdom hall".

  "lord, they were swinging down at the kigdom hall".

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  Undine

  ~Had to put in a wink for 'Tupelo Honey!'~

  Undine
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  Ridiculous trips to the 'back room'

  by Esmeralda in

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  the posts in the elders meeting thread got me thinking about this, so i've spun it off for into another thread.. were you ever 'counseled' because "some" in the congregation were disturbed by things you said/did/listened to/watched?.

  here is just some of the stupid stuff that the elders brought me in on.

  though they were usually handled through shepherding calls, not in the back room at the kh.. 1: because i decided to change my first and middle names.

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  Undine

  Hmmm...interesting thread, Esmeralda!

  Let me see. Had a shepherding call once and
  I was accused of "Not being in subjection to my husband."

  The reason? A "sister" heard me tell someone that I referred to
  my car as being "my own."

  Ooops. Shame on me! ô¿ô Hideous crime!!! (SPARE ME)

  Undine
  p.s.
  BRAVA! for changing your name!!!