When the governing body suddenly announced: 'We (and only us GB clowns) are the faithful and discreet slave! Screw the rest of anointed on earth!' c. 2012 AD or CE (hahahaha)
alecholmesthedetective
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Roll Call for the benefit of Newbies and Lurkers. In One Sentence tell why you left the Org.
by Wasanelder Once inroll call for the benefit of newbies and lurkers.
in one sentence tell why you left the org.
not 2 sentences.
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"But WHY would you want to know those things??"
by stuckinarut2 ini ran into an older sister who has always been very sweet.. it was a friendly chat...yet she pushed for a reason why my family have been missing from meetings for some time.
the question was deflected, until it just had to be said: "well, there have been some troubling and disturbing issues about the society especially the way things were handled during the royal commission, as well as many other issues".. she quickly cut in and said "but why would you want to know these things?
its best not to research and look at those sort of things - so we don't get upset!".
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To continue being a JW they have to keep disconnecting themselves from reality. -
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Did Freddy Franz receive secret instructions from a Jewish aquaintance?
by truthseeker ini recently met a sister who told me she heard of a story that the late president of the watchtower society, mr. freddy franz, received secret instructions on how to direct the organization from a jewish acquaintance.. is this a conspiracy theory or could there be some truth to it?.
truthseeker.
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alecholmesthedetective
I found this link about Franz being a Millerite at heart, from Freeminds:
http://www.freeminds.org/women/millerite_franz.htm
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Donald Trump dubbed over
by alecholmesthedetective incomedian peter serafinowicz gave trump different voices in the videos below.
ingenious.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y96iyhbhie0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qugt30ggtiihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=728_lwz3nd0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ca0nm5ray0
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alecholmesthedetective
Love the Bush beatbox. And Bush was comedy gold.
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Evolution is a Fact #26 - Colour Vision
by cofty ineach little flower that opens,each little bird that sings,he made their glowing colours,he made their tiny wings.. all of us have been moved by the riot of colours in a spring meadow, the majesty of a sunset or the beauty of a bird in breeding plumage.
what greater evidence could there be of a loving creator than our colourful world and the human eye that is equipped to appreciate it?.
this is the sort of simplistic argument that convinces a lot of creationists about their beliefs.. it's time to "unweave the rainbow".. light is detected by a proteins called opsins.
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alecholmesthedetective
And those who have no argument can only make ad hominem attacks. Congratulations GodZoo. -
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Evolution is a Fact #26 - Colour Vision
by cofty ineach little flower that opens,each little bird that sings,he made their glowing colours,he made their tiny wings.. all of us have been moved by the riot of colours in a spring meadow, the majesty of a sunset or the beauty of a bird in breeding plumage.
what greater evidence could there be of a loving creator than our colourful world and the human eye that is equipped to appreciate it?.
this is the sort of simplistic argument that convinces a lot of creationists about their beliefs.. it's time to "unweave the rainbow".. light is detected by a proteins called opsins.
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alecholmesthedetective
Thanks Cofty, for explaining it so clearly and simply. I'm not knowledgeable at all on these topics, but I remember a chapter on one of Dawkins's books on bats and echolocation which fascinated me as well. This thread subject reminded me of that and also of the fact that some birds of prey have amazing eyesight.
Evolution fits perfectly with a world in which some animals needed to hunt to survive and thus evolved traits that aided them in that and other animals which evolved in ways that helped them better escape their predators. This had always caused me cognitive dissonance when I was in the cult.
The natural world is full of many interesting animals and understanding how evolution moulds it all is very exciting indeed.
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I have a question.
by DATA-DOG inaccording to jwism, god didn't cause suffering, he just allowed it.
wow, that's really, really, dumb.
to help humans out, jeehoobidoob provided the ransom.
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alecholmesthedetective
Starting about noon, Elijah began to tease them: "Shout louder! "He's a god, so maybe he's busy. "Maybe he's relieving himself. "Maybe he's busy someplace. "Maybe he's taking a nap and somebody needs to wake him up." -
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I have a question.
by DATA-DOG inaccording to jwism, god didn't cause suffering, he just allowed it.
wow, that's really, really, dumb.
to help humans out, jeehoobidoob provided the ransom.
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alecholmesthedetective
all you've got is your view
On the contrary, all humanity has got are objective facts, such as the problem of natural evil and the internal contradictions of books written before any knowledge of plate tectonics which cause tsunamis that drown a quarter of a million people.
Religion has had plenty of time, millenia, to come up with a satisfactory answer to theodicy, and it hasn't because it can't. -
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Do you still believe in God?
by FormerlySandL ini never thought i would admit it, but i don't.
i might superstitiously have some kind of doubt but digging a bit deeper in my heart i really don't believe in god.
as a human i could never just sit and watch people be tortured, live years of abuse, suffer from illness and disabilities and all the other awful things people have to endure day after day without doing something about it.
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alecholmesthedetective
I wish someone had gotten in my face 35 years ago and given me something to think about . . .
Ditto. I remember the times my 'worldly' friends at work would ask questions about my beliefs back then and when I couldn't justify them. Simple questions, but once you get thinking and follow the evidence where it leads you then there is no going back. -
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Does God judge people on their physical aspects?
by pseudoxristos inyears ago, i attempted to discuss this topic with jehovah's witnesses in another discussion group.
looking back on the discussion, i found that i was never able to really get to the bottom of the subject.
i've never really understood witnesses belief in the spiritual aspect of humans without some belief in a soul (or spirit).
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alecholmesthedetective
For some reason this thread made me remember the quote 'do androids dream of electric sheep?' or something like it.