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Why is Enoch referenced in the bible but his book omitted?

by Ursula in

why is enoch referenced in the bible but his book omitted?.

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Interestingly, writers of Bible themselves did not consider other writers are not inspired, hence profusely made references when each one wrote his portion of the Bible. For example:

· The Book of Jasher (whose title fully translated means the Book of the Upright or the Book of the Just) is mentioned inJoshua 10:13 and 2 Samuel 1:18 and also referenced in 2 Timothy 3:8.[1] From the context in the Book of Samuel it is implied that it was a collection of poetry. Several books have claimed to be this lost text, some of which are discounted as pseudepigrapha. Certain members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints secured the copyright to one of these and republished the work in 1887 in Salt Lake City.

· The Book of the Wars of the Lord.[2] Referenced at Numbers 21:14 with possible association with War of the Sons of Light Against the Sons of Darkness. Also cited The Book of the Wars of the LORD is cited in the medieval Book of Jasher (trans. Moses Samuel c. 1840, ed. J. H. Parry 1887) Chapter 90:48 as being a collaborative record written by Moses, Joshua and the children of Israel.

· The Chronicles of the Kings of Israel and Chronicles of the Kings of Judah are mentioned in the Books of Kings (1 Kings 14:19,29). They are said to tell of events during the reigns of Kings Jeroboam of Israel and Rehoboam of Judah, respectively. The Chronicles of the Kings of Israel is again mentioned in 1 Kings 16:20 regarding King Zimri, and many other times throughout 1 and 2 Kings.

· The "Book of Shemaiah, and of Iddo the Seer" (also called Story of the Prophet Iddo or The Annals of the Prophet Iddo) is mentioned in the 2nd Book of Chronicles. (2 Chronicles 9:29, 2 Chronicles 12:15, 2 Chronicles 13:22). Iddo was a seer who lived during the reigns of Solomon, Rehoboam, and Abijah. His deeds were recorded in this book, which has been completely lost to history, save for its title. However, it is interesting to note that Zechariah was the son of Iddo, but this was likely not the same Iddo. (Ezra 5:1, Zechariah 1:1)

· The Manner of the Kingdom.[3]
Referenced at 1 Samuel 10:25.

· The Acts of Solomon.[4]
Referenced at 1 Kings 11:41.

· The Annals of King David.[5]
Referenced at 1 Chronicles 27:24.

· The Book of Samuel the Seer. Also called Samuel the Seer or The Acts of Samuel the Seer, which could be the same as1 & 2 Samuel.[6]
Referenced at 1 Chronicles 29:29.

· The Book of Nathan the Prophet. Also called Nathan the Prophet or The Acts of Nathan the Prophet or History of Nathan the Prophet.[6]
Referenced at 1 Chronicles 29:29, and also 2 Chronicles 9:29.

· The Book of Gad the Seer.[7]
Referenced at 1 Chronicles 29:29.

· The Prophecy of Ahijah,[8] might be a reference to 1 Kings 14:2–18.
Referenced at 2 Chronicles 9:29.

· The Book of the Kings of Judah and Israel.[9]
Referenced in 2 Chronicles 16:11, 2 Chronicles 27:7 and 2 Chronicles 32:32. Might be the same as 1 & 2 Kings.

· The Book of Jehu,[10] could be a reference to 1 Kings 16:1–7.
Referenced at 2 Chronicles 20:34.

· The Story of the Book of Kings.[11]
Referenced at 2 Chronicles 24:27.

· The Acts of Uziah. Also called The Book by the prophet Isaiah. Perhaps the same as the Book of Isaiah.[6]
Referenced at 2 Chronicles 26:22.

· The Vision of Isaiah.[12]
Referenced at 2 Chronicles 32:32.

· The Acts of the Kings of Israel. Also called The Acts and Prayers of Manasseh.[13] May be identical to The Book of the Kings of Israel, above.
Referenced at 2 Chronicles 33:18.

· The Sayings of the Seers.[14]
Referenced at 2 Chronicles 33:19.

· The Laments for Josiah. Also called Lamentations. This event is recorded in the existing Book of Lamentations.
Referenced at 2 Chronicles 35:25.

· The Chronicles of King Ahasuerus.[15]
Referenced at Esther 2:23, Esther 6:1, Esther 10:2, and Nehemiah 12:23.

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Why is Enoch referenced in the bible but his book omitted?

by Ursula in

why is enoch referenced in the bible but his book omitted?.

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The apostate Christendom scholars decided what is to be accepted into canon--hence anything was possible.

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Exposing the Core Premise of JW False Teaching

by TerryWalstrom in

poison is at work in any argument with jehovah's witnesses.

this poison has little to do with the beauty of watchtower logic or the tasty morsels of jw reasoning.. the poison is odorless and tasteless and it has absorbed into their core premise: scripture interpretation directed by jehovah.. if you buy into the core premise (somebody possesses a divinely granted access to an infallible source of truth) you are already dead in the water.. that is the deal breaker.

false premises lead always to false conclusions.. stop right here.. the core misrepresentation of christianity solely rests in accepting the bible as the inerrant word of almighty god.

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Matter is very simple. If "There is no original manuscript preserved to be used to prove anything at all" it means God has not authorized the writing of scriptures. If he has, it follows that he must also take measures to preserve it.

And also, misinterpretation is the mother of all scriptures--hence we have many scriptures and interpretation--God must be laughing seeing all these fun.

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Genesis chapter one can make your life meaningful and joyful

by venus in

literal reading of genesis chapter one brings no benefit because you would see god as speaking to fishes and birds (genesis 1:22) which we know is not possible.

however, with “a king’s mind” if one looks for the implied truth behind its literary allusions it may bring immense benefit.

(proverb 25:2) for example:.

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Waton, and smiddy,

I take lesson from everything I come across (not only from Bible). For example, when I sit in my car and see rear-view mirror, I take the lesson: Life is not for wasting time on worrying about what happened in the past as though to keep on looking at the rear-view mirror. I must drive forward. This does help me to be always in the now enjoying the moment to the fullest possible. And I have shared this lesson from the rear-view mirror with many people.

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Genesis chapter one can make your life meaningful and joyful

by venus in

literal reading of genesis chapter one brings no benefit because you would see god as speaking to fishes and birds (genesis 1:22) which we know is not possible.

however, with “a king’s mind” if one looks for the implied truth behind its literary allusions it may bring immense benefit.

(proverb 25:2) for example:.

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Everapostate, desirousofchange,

Your doubt is about ‘how can vegetation precede sun?’ That’s when you go for literal reading. But I started benefiting when I stopped literal readying, and started looking for implied truth behind literary allusions.

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Enlightenment, Will It Be A Rather Common Experience In The Future?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

it has been said by some that an enlightened being came/happened once every 500 years, but now they seem to be popping up all over the place.. the buddha had to meditate like hell, he even starved himself to attain it.

monks spend many years doing some are successful some are not.. i think with science looking into these nirvana states of mind that they will figure out a way to end suffering for the human species which will usher in a whole different way of life with higher intelligence running things.

from my understanding of enlightenment it is a sort of rewiring of the brain where the signals go up pleasure side of the amygdala where as painful emotions and sensations go up the other side.

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brokebackWT,

It is easy to get enlightenment—I got it from analyzing my sleep.

1) Sometimes we get sleep when we want,
sometimes we get sleep when we don’t want in such situation as listening to a public talk,
and sometimes we don’t get sleep when we want.

It means life is a play of both free-will and destiny; hence when something that happens not according to our expectation, we can easily accept it.

2) When I look at the way my breathing happens—I realize that I only witness as it happens rather than I do the breathing which continues even while I am sleeping. So is the case with other circulations and vital functions such as digestion … etc. It means there exists an immaterial builder of body that can exist with or without body.

3) If this is my make-up, so is the make-up of rest of the humanity. Upon realizing this, feeling of me-and-other-separation ceases, and self-importance is no longer an issue and one’s intention is one to include, connect and co-operate with others. The more one does this, the more harmony it generates and the more beneficial it turns to be. According to many research studies, when some people who led a self-serving life in the past begin a compassionate life they feel good and happy. That means our very make-up teaches that humans have to be loving each other in order to feel good and to be happy. Scientists have found that generosity made people happier and promising to be more generous was enough to trigger a change in our brain giving us pleasant feeling. (http://www.media.uzh.ch/en/Press-Releases/2017/Generosity.html)

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Genesis chapter one can make your life meaningful and joyful

by venus in

literal reading of genesis chapter one brings no benefit because you would see god as speaking to fishes and birds (genesis 1:22) which we know is not possible.

however, with “a king’s mind” if one looks for the implied truth behind its literary allusions it may bring immense benefit.

(proverb 25:2) for example:.

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sir82,

You need to forget 99.99999..% of the Bible to discern these principles from Gen chapter 1

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Genesis chapter one can make your life meaningful and joyful

by venus in

literal reading of genesis chapter one brings no benefit because you would see god as speaking to fishes and birds (genesis 1:22) which we know is not possible.

however, with “a king’s mind” if one looks for the implied truth behind its literary allusions it may bring immense benefit.

(proverb 25:2) for example:.

venus

Literal reading of Genesis chapter one brings no benefit because you would see God as speaking to fishes and birds (Genesis 1:22) which we know is not possible. However, with “a king’s mind” if one looks for the implied truth behind its literary allusions it may bring immense benefit. (Proverb 25:2) For example:

Genesis 1:14-18 show sun exists to “govern” or to guide us. Metaphysically, sun is a great teacher because it is always a giver of energy (light and heat), and never receives anything from others. At the sight of sun, one can think: “I too must be a giver of light and warmth” (i.e. I must choose to perform all my actions in such a way that others would feel enlightened and empowered/elevated), and just like sun does not receive anything from us I won’t be bothered about what I receive (such as honor/dishonor) from others, and will have no expectations from others!” Such an attitude brings freedom and happiness! Working for the welfare of others with no thought of reciprocation would also bring gratitude and reciprocation from others. Even if that doesn’t happen in some cases, still it is beneficial because our very make-up is such that doing something nice for another person produces a pleasant feeling that behavioral economists call a warm glow and strengthens your immunity. University of Zurich researchers investigated how areas in the brain communicated to produce this feeling. (http://www.media.uzh.ch/en/Press-Releases/2017/Generosity.html)

Genesis 1:28, 29 recommend care for inferior species also which would make peace the religion of mankind.

Genesis 1:26 implies no nation or individual can rightly be elevated over others.

That means, Genesis chapter one has enough principles that can make everything “very good.” (Gen 1:31) Yet, these are either neutralized or contradicted in the rest of the Bible. Thus Bible has become like Babel as it “has some good morals; and also has some clever fables, some blood-drenched history, a wealth of obscenity and upwards of a thousand lies.” (Mark Twain)

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This convention talk offended me

by Isambard Crater in

here are my notes from the r.c yesterday, the talk called "jehovah – the greatest example of endurance".

many of you will understand why i found it offensive.. jehovah has taken the hard option of choosing to endure:.

reproach to his holy name.

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A God choosing to please the rebellious one is the imagination of human writers. A God who is all-wise and almighty can never find Himself in any enduring situation. Some Bible writers have no idea about an enduring God (Psalm 17:15; Rom 8:23; Ps 32:11; Psalm 16:11; 34:8)

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Why did Jesus not use God’s name Jehovah?

by venus in

no one doubts jesus extensively spoke about god’s kingdom because he said: “i must proclaim the good news of the kingdom of god to the other towns also, because that is why i was sent.” (luke 4:43) yet christian sects are divided over the subject whether jesus used god’s name or not.. it is said that god’s name jehovah was revealed to moses.

however jesus knew moses was not trustworthy.

(mathew 19:8) moses born and brought up in egypt could have been influenced by egyptian knowledge.

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everapostate,

You are right. Why did such a great person who supposedly brought a division of history into BC and AD not leave something historical? Not an easy question to answer. Being a superhuman who came from heaven--why did he not leave a piece of his carpentry skill which would stand unique?