Posts by venus

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lf you could be god would you and why and what would you change?

by atomant in

not sure if this question has been asked before but thought it would be interesting to read peoples response..

Many suffer as though in hell (I have some friends in this category) because they want to be successful ones (success, as defined by others) whereas they have the freedom to lead a satisfied life (satisfaction, as defined by themselves)

Their problem is greed; and greed is evil because it ensures seldom used abundance in one place and privation on the other side, and greed (evil) is chosen.

See the contrasting results when the opposite of greed is chosen—the whole earth would be a paradise without God doing anything.

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lf you could be god would you and why and what would you change?

by atomant in

not sure if this question has been asked before but thought it would be interesting to read peoples response..

You wrote: "Unsupported by evidence?"

You can put your hand in the fire and suffer burning injuries or but with your hands you can caress somebody and both of you can enjoy a sweet experience.

What I wrote is solely based on my experience, and what happened to Germany everyone is aware.

But with regard to natural calamities, and children born with diseases … etc. I have no answer.

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"Let It Go" describes leaving the immediate reality and path of leaving JWs

by Bad_Wolf in

i was at disney and when the song was on for a show it seemed to describe one leaving.

here are lyrics and my thoughts in ().

the snow glows white on the mountain tonightnot a footprint to be seen.a kingdom of isolation, (immediate isolation when entire social network cut off and shuns)and it looks like i'm the queen (only one alone)the wind is howling like this swirling storm insidecouldn't keep it in;heaven knows i've tried (start of waking up to break free of jw cult).

venus

I love this

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The Golden rule (Matt 7:12) - Do JW's apply it?

by doubtfull1799 in

there is no doubt (in my mind at least from my own personal experience) that in day to day matters most witnesses are genuinely loving and kind (or "nice") people (though their indoctrination and fundamentalist mentality often inhibits their natural kindness and tolerance and often gets in the way of fulling showing it).

however i would like to put the case that when it comes to their ministry and theological/scientific discussion of any type, they fail to apply even the most basic of bible principles that they claim to espouse - the golden rule!

here is what occurred to me.... some things jw's would like men to do to them:.

venus

Sign post will show you the way, it will not walk with you

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lf you could be god would you and why and what would you change?

by atomant in

not sure if this question has been asked before but thought it would be interesting to read peoples response..

venus

Vanderhoven7, it is a great thought and I agree with you 100%.

We do not study about cold and darkness because they are absence of heat and light.

Similarly, we need not think about evil and suffering because evil is the absence of goodness and suffering is the consequence of choosing evil.

Without suffering, we will not know what the misuse of free-will would mean. Hence I cannot tell God: “You should ensure I experience no ill-effects even when I misuse my free-will.” Many have strongly been influenced by the proverb: “Friend in need is friend indeed.” Yet this proverb reveals something negative, a commercial mind-set that friend is a means (if a friend does not help me he is not my friend). Similarly many feel that if God does not ensure that they experience no ill-effects even when they misuse their free-will, He is not a God, or He doesn’t exist. Everyone (including animals) can be taught if we want.

Besides, humans have the ability to remove most of our sufferings, and we have shown our abilities many times—for example, when we found that separation is no longer working, Germany went for re-union. This can be tried with regard to countries such as Pakistan & India, South Korean & North Korean … so on, and finally with the whole world. But ego (individual and collective) is the only obstacle. Yet ego is the easiest thing in the world to destroy because it does when it is no longer nurtured.

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Either God’s non-existence or His majesty

by venus in

in natural calamities, everyone (despite one’s faith) is affected.

when one denies god’s existence, he experiences no punishment from him.

when one worships him, he receives no special favor from him.

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deegee

I have no answer for that.

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Either God’s non-existence or His majesty

by venus in

in natural calamities, everyone (despite one’s faith) is affected.

when one denies god’s existence, he experiences no punishment from him.

when one worships him, he receives no special favor from him.

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giordano,

You rightly said "god is silent."

Why is He silent? God doesn’t have to speak to us through a medium (person/scriptures) because lessons are plenty in the universe. For example, flower teaches to be beautiful and fragrant in all our action. Water teaches us to be soft and yielding, and be firm and unyielding when situation calls for because it takes the form of its container (it becomes cup in a cup) which means ‘be fully involved in the now’) yet for dissolving the hard and inflexible, nothing can surpass water. When the sun comes daily illuminating and empowering all living beings, it teaches us to act in such a way that others get illuminated and empowered. When others’ action makes me happy/unhappy, it tells me how I should act towards others. There is a soft voice within me telling always what is beneficial and wasteful…. Lessons go on and on.

That means God would be a non-interventionist! God did not tell the Germans to go for re-union when the separation was not working, but they simply did it. It means it is possible for others such as Pakistan & India, S. Korean & N Korean, and then for the whole world. But the obstacle is ego (individual and collective) which is the easiest thing in the world to destroy because ego is just a thought that dies when it is no longer nurtured. There is great beauty in allowing man to run his affairs unhindered. Let him learn from experiences. If he refuses to learn, let him continue to refuse till he feels saturated with his refusal.

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Either God’s non-existence or His majesty

by venus in

in natural calamities, everyone (despite one’s faith) is affected.

when one denies god’s existence, he experiences no punishment from him.

when one worships him, he receives no special favor from him.

venus

deegee

You are asking “Has God ever told anyone that he created the world but prefers to be AWOL because he gave man free will to run things himself? … I think it would be nice to hear what the situation is directly from God himself.”

Whenever a particular thief steals, he steals only from the rich, and this is his history consistently. In this case, he doesn’t have to tell us that he doesn’t want to rob the poor even though ‘it would be nice to hear what the situation is directly from thief himself.’

Similarly, God has never intervened in the History, thus He doesn’t have to tell us that he doesn’t want to intervene in the affairs of mankind even though “it would be nice to hear what the situation is directly from God himself.”

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How Rutherford did a backflip (flop) off the Great Pyramid

by TerryWalstrom in

in 1924, judge rutherford published an article which referred to the great pyramid as "the scientific bible" and added that measurements on the grand gallery inside the great pyramid confirmed the dates 1874, 1914 and 1925.. 1925 was the famous blowout date for the return of "ancient worthies" about which the judge said, "i made an ass of myself.".

just four years later, rutherford did one of his famous about-face reversals.. whereas previously the watchtower had taught that the great pyramid was probably built by melchizedek, or shem;*.

rutherford now said the great pyramid was constructed "under the direction of satan the devil.

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smiddy3,

That's an interesting expression: "" past truths" .."present truths" and ..."future truths."

This means:

Every teaching is the offspring of the time and circumstances

Every religion is the offspring of the time and circumstances

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How Rutherford did a backflip (flop) off the Great Pyramid

by TerryWalstrom in

in 1924, judge rutherford published an article which referred to the great pyramid as "the scientific bible" and added that measurements on the grand gallery inside the great pyramid confirmed the dates 1874, 1914 and 1925.. 1925 was the famous blowout date for the return of "ancient worthies" about which the judge said, "i made an ass of myself.".

just four years later, rutherford did one of his famous about-face reversals.. whereas previously the watchtower had taught that the great pyramid was probably built by melchizedek, or shem;*.

rutherford now said the great pyramid was constructed "under the direction of satan the devil.

venus

Ultimately, convenience is the key.