Posts by venus

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What is the Baptism all about?

by Old Navy in

does the act of baptism make us a "member" of any group or organization?

or, is it something much greater in its purpose?.

when we as former jws came to the truthful conclusion that what the wtborg cult inc. was teaching/preaching was not an accurate representation of the word, many of us decided to look into every nook and cranny to see if we could discover the real truth.

venus

With regard to its symbolic meaning it is very useful—dead to the old personality and emerging as alive to do God’s will. However, the Jews had this concept in-built into their very vocabulary. For example, the word for life is chayim in Hebrew. Chayim is written in the plural to imply truths such as:

1) Life cannot be lived alone. We come to life not on our own, but through our parents who came, in turn, through their parents which ultimately starts from God. In other words, one’s life has meaning only when he knows he is a child of God. Interestingly, Chayim is formed from the word Chai (alive) and im (if), suggesting that being alive is conditional on our union with God in the truth.

2) The plural also indicates each of us lives more than one life—inner and outer. It is not enough to have an upwardly mobile outer life filled with material possessions. It is not satisfying unless a person also has a richer inner life filled with meaning and purpose.

Hence for a Jew, there was no need of being taught through Baptism.

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If Apostle Paul had been living in our time, would he have written certain things he did?

by venus in

1) he wrote woman are not qualified to teach (1 corinthians 14:34).

in my experience, i have been taught by both teachers—male and female.

some of the female teachers were too wonderfully effective.

venus

jwfacts,

You are very true he would have shown his lust for power because his hidden agenda could be discerned by any keenly analytical mind. For example, the book Genius of Paul by Samuel Sandmel is like an investigative journalism which shows how Paul tries to undermine some of the Gospel writers.

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If Apostle Paul had been living in our time, would he have written certain things he did?

by venus in

1) he wrote woman are not qualified to teach (1 corinthians 14:34).

in my experience, i have been taught by both teachers—male and female.

some of the female teachers were too wonderfully effective.

venus

1) He wrote woman are NOT qualified to teach (1 Corinthians 14:34). In my experience, I have been taught by both teachers—male and female. Some of the female teachers were too wonderfully effective. This is equally true in all spheres—mundane and religious. Not to mention some of the efficient woman rulers. Germans proved Apostle Paul wrong in a spectacular way—they chose Angela Merkel fourth term as chancellor of Germany. In India even the Head of the Defense Department is a woman.

2) Apostle Paul felt he had no control over his behavior (Romans 7:24) and he thought this aspect is true for all mankind. (Romans 5:12-21) Yet look at the world of those working in fields such as Customer Service, Air-hostess … they choose to show perfect control on their temperament even at the face of unjust/extreme provocation, yet they choose to be the opposite when they are at home (I have first experience from my twin-sister who is working as an air-hostess)

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Does Morality Exist?

by Fisherman in

some people believe that stealing, lying and killing, is not moral.

some people don't.. does morality exist?

if so, prove it..

venus

Morality exists and does not exist. For example,

1)When you make a destructive criticism, you think you are right

When you are destructively criticized, you think the other person is wrong.

2)What appears to be good could be wrong when the recipient is changed. Cooperation is good when the recipient is also good like Law-enforcement agencies, employer …etc. Yet cooperation with anti-social elements is wrong.

3)Anger is bad, yet it is also good sometimes because there could be grievous consequences of not getting angry, as well.

In big picture, what works for the well-being of all is good and vice versa. I agree with Mike Gallagher who wrote: “Right and wrong are not relative terms. There are fundamental truths. Evil flourishes, but good men continue to battle it – and win.”

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Bible passage used to stop women becoming ordained 'added later'

by Moster in

see the article referring to 1cor 14:34. seems it may not have been part of the original verses, nor was it written by paul.

thoughts?.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/22/bible-passage-used-stop-women-become-ordained-added-later-academic/.

venus

My first jolt occurred when I read in the footnotes of scholarly versions of the Bible that John 8:1-11 [where Jesus' famous statement “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her” appears] is added later.

Then I found out John 3 also added later ...

Thus I came to the conclusion that No Scriptures belong to God; if they did, God would have dearly safeguarded them.

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JW Stumper Questions - List You Best Here

by pale.emperor in

hi guys.

sooner or later we're going to get a jw knocking on our door.

just like when we were jw's doing the knocking, it's good to have a question prepared to get them thinking about their own beliefs.

venus

I would ask:

What makes you stick to the organization even after numerous changes it made in the teaching--something that is not the sign of being God-directed?

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North Korean Propaganda Is Almost Identical To That Of The Governing Body

by pale.emperor in

if you get the chance, watch this documentary:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v42r54irjbg.

substitute the name kim jong un for the governing body and it's exactly the same!

venus

This is how Jesus defined hypocrisy "You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye." (Mathew 7:5)

When they see their own traits in others, JWs describe it as the identifying marks of "seed of serpent."

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Creation proves JWs system is wrong

by venus in

to revolt is a natural tendency of life.

even a worm turns against the foot that crushes it.

the vitality and relative dignity of an animal can be measured by the intensity of its instinct to revolt.

venus

WhatshallIcallmyself

I appreciate that.

It is true that all revolt is a reaction, and all reaction is not a rebellion. When JWs suffer passively, this is also a reaction. Hence to differentiate from this, revolt may be good even though it may carry a negative connotation. Yet, revolt could be positive when it is used for freedom and against oppression, as happened in the case of American revolt against the British. It is in this land of hard-earned freedom that we find JWs thriving suppressing the freedom of their members.

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Creation proves JWs system is wrong

by venus in

to revolt is a natural tendency of life.

even a worm turns against the foot that crushes it.

the vitality and relative dignity of an animal can be measured by the intensity of its instinct to revolt.

venus

To revolt is a natural tendency of life. Even a worm turns against the foot that crushes it. The vitality and relative dignity of an animal can be measured by the intensity of its instinct to revolt. It follows: human dignity is measured by the intensity of its instinct to question.

If a JW excises this basic instinct, he is not only disfellowshipped but is eternally shunned.

Thus, creation proves JW system is wrong. What creation proves is necessarily of the will of the Creator.

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Russell and the Jehovah's Witnesses are mentioned in article: "Will the world end on Saturday?"

by pseudoxristos in

google news featured the following article.

will the world end on saturday?...then there were the followers of charles taze russell, a 19th-century preacher who looked for jesus’ return and the resurrection of the dead (christians only, please) in 1878 (and again in 1914).

they became jehovah’s witnesses, who now ring doorbells around the world (and are persecuted for it in some places — looking at you, russia).

venus

A catholic nun who claimed to have received vision from Mary too adds to the news

http://www.cetusnews.com/news/Apocalyptic-mile-high-MEGA-TSUNAMI-%E2%80%98to-wipe-out-US-THIS-WEEK-%E2%80%93-blind-mystic-predicts%E2%80%99.S1eCdpB2qb.html