Great points Doubtful1799,
Knowledge of God is not
required for anyone to be a good person because all sorts of people are found equally among both the groups—theists and atheists.
religion is declining in many countries around the world and hardly exists in some countries.. it would fair to say that scientifically acquired knowledge has taken a bite of religious practice over the years.
the premising suggestion that there is a god looking at everything mankind does or should do is vanishing out the human consciousness.. should we emulate the social directives written in ancient manuscripts established by those ancients for their civilization ?
is it possible that mankind can control and guide itself now with all the acquired knowledge we have attained, toward the ending betterment of humanity ?
Great points Doubtful1799,
Knowledge of God is not
required for anyone to be a good person because all sorts of people are found equally among both the groups—theists and atheists.
every theory (including darwin’s) primarily proves someone has to design a theory; every product primarily proves someone has to design it.
when neil armstrong and buzz aldrin landed on the moon it primarily proved intelligence of many people had to design that moon-mission.. 1) if every machine primarily proves someone designed it, then a much more complex, wonderful, and living machine with reproductive feature would mean the same: someone with corresponding ability, of higher energy, designed it because effect explains the cause just like harvest explains the sowing (whether you saw sowing or not).
science shows human body is like a complex machinery with many departments/systems (such as respiratory, digestive, cardiovascular/circulatory, renal/urinary, endocrine, nervous, musculoskeletal, integumentary/exocrine, lymphatic/immune, reproductive etc.
Morpheus,
Reason means the same thing for you and for me. Take out the reason, then we won’t be able to understand anything (let alone creators and The Creator). There's an old saying: "I know I do not see the world as it is, I see the world as I am".
every theory (including darwin’s) primarily proves someone has to design a theory; every product primarily proves someone has to design it.
when neil armstrong and buzz aldrin landed on the moon it primarily proved intelligence of many people had to design that moon-mission.. 1) if every machine primarily proves someone designed it, then a much more complex, wonderful, and living machine with reproductive feature would mean the same: someone with corresponding ability, of higher energy, designed it because effect explains the cause just like harvest explains the sowing (whether you saw sowing or not).
science shows human body is like a complex machinery with many departments/systems (such as respiratory, digestive, cardiovascular/circulatory, renal/urinary, endocrine, nervous, musculoskeletal, integumentary/exocrine, lymphatic/immune, reproductive etc.
That is what the OP heading means "God is not the Creator", and that is what the concluding verse means: Within each human body, there is a creator.
OP is not about God The Creator because His non-intervention and non-communication obviously show that He wants to remain unidentified. If the Almighty really wants to get His message across with incontestable clarity He would definitely have various means at His disposal to do so. Using a rain-bow like writing that would appear on the sky at regular interval so that everybody can read in their language would be a too easy job for Him. If He doesn’t do that, then it means He knows everyone knows what is right and wrong, what is beneficial and wasteful which is really the truth because
1)Everyone knows what action of others make them happy/sorrowful which means everyone knows how they should act towards others.
2)Some parts of earth is already like paradise which means humans know how to make the whole earth paradise, if they want to.
3)Some countries have never partaken in any war from their very inception which means other countries know how to go about without war if they really want.
4)Knowledge of God is not required for anyone to be a good person because all sorts of people are found among both the groups—theists and atheists.
every theory (including darwin’s) primarily proves someone has to design a theory; every product primarily proves someone has to design it.
when neil armstrong and buzz aldrin landed on the moon it primarily proved intelligence of many people had to design that moon-mission.. 1) if every machine primarily proves someone designed it, then a much more complex, wonderful, and living machine with reproductive feature would mean the same: someone with corresponding ability, of higher energy, designed it because effect explains the cause just like harvest explains the sowing (whether you saw sowing or not).
science shows human body is like a complex machinery with many departments/systems (such as respiratory, digestive, cardiovascular/circulatory, renal/urinary, endocrine, nervous, musculoskeletal, integumentary/exocrine, lymphatic/immune, reproductive etc.
scatchme1010,
I would capture your reaction in the following scenario:
Raining is good news for an umbrella merchant whereas it’s sorrow for a potter.
i noticed a young brother with a beard being given more privelages within our hall.
when he first grew his beard, he lost his privelages.
but more and more recently he has been helping out a lot more.. the cobe is old school and a stickler for rules, but with the hall becoming more empty these days, and the need for young brothers, he seems to have relaxed on this particular watchtower/man made rule.
Such diluting of standard is typical of human writers. To dilute the self-evident statement in Genesis 1:29, 30 (which says about decreed vegetarian food for both animals and humans), humans writers invented a global flood (which wipes out vegetarian food) to introduce non-vegetarian diet. (Genesis 9:3, 4)
every theory (including darwin’s) primarily proves someone has to design a theory; every product primarily proves someone has to design it.
when neil armstrong and buzz aldrin landed on the moon it primarily proved intelligence of many people had to design that moon-mission.. 1) if every machine primarily proves someone designed it, then a much more complex, wonderful, and living machine with reproductive feature would mean the same: someone with corresponding ability, of higher energy, designed it because effect explains the cause just like harvest explains the sowing (whether you saw sowing or not).
science shows human body is like a complex machinery with many departments/systems (such as respiratory, digestive, cardiovascular/circulatory, renal/urinary, endocrine, nervous, musculoskeletal, integumentary/exocrine, lymphatic/immune, reproductive etc.
waton,
It is already there in the OP "conscious energy that cannot be created nor destroyed"
It had no beginnin and no end; hence no concern for us
every theory (including darwin’s) primarily proves someone has to design a theory; every product primarily proves someone has to design it.
when neil armstrong and buzz aldrin landed on the moon it primarily proved intelligence of many people had to design that moon-mission.. 1) if every machine primarily proves someone designed it, then a much more complex, wonderful, and living machine with reproductive feature would mean the same: someone with corresponding ability, of higher energy, designed it because effect explains the cause just like harvest explains the sowing (whether you saw sowing or not).
science shows human body is like a complex machinery with many departments/systems (such as respiratory, digestive, cardiovascular/circulatory, renal/urinary, endocrine, nervous, musculoskeletal, integumentary/exocrine, lymphatic/immune, reproductive etc.
You are asking: "Do you thing there will be any long term effects of repressing the memories as you led her to do? Or is this a permanent overwrite of those memories?"
It is permanent overwrite--no harm is done just like you had a dream and you forgot about it. From your inability to recall a bad dream/nightmare, no harm is done. This is done in the spirit and principle of "To be wronged is nothing unless you continue to remember it." I simply help the victim not to remember the harm done to them.
You might have heard about Dr. John Demartini, who used the affirmation towards himself: “I’m a genius and I apply my wisdom”, throughout his lifetime to accomplish amazing results and achieved outstanding success in his life. What he did to himself is done, under hypnosis, to somebody else.
every theory (including darwin’s) primarily proves someone has to design a theory; every product primarily proves someone has to design it.
when neil armstrong and buzz aldrin landed on the moon it primarily proved intelligence of many people had to design that moon-mission.. 1) if every machine primarily proves someone designed it, then a much more complex, wonderful, and living machine with reproductive feature would mean the same: someone with corresponding ability, of higher energy, designed it because effect explains the cause just like harvest explains the sowing (whether you saw sowing or not).
science shows human body is like a complex machinery with many departments/systems (such as respiratory, digestive, cardiovascular/circulatory, renal/urinary, endocrine, nervous, musculoskeletal, integumentary/exocrine, lymphatic/immune, reproductive etc.
Reading the above, some may feel like asking: What is the Source of your information?
Source is my own reading in between the lines, lectures, theories, experiences [intelligence, from intellegere, Latin, literally “read between lines” would actually mean reading between lines/happening and arriving at intuitive discernment]. After my clinical psychology study, I also learned Past Regression Therapy to practice it as a hobby (not for money) especially to help hapless victims. The best case I handled was of one teenage girl who was brutally gang-raped and thus went into deep depression. Parents tried every form of treatment—nothing worked. Her teacher was my class mate who told me to help her. She brought her to my house. I asked her, under hypnosis, to relate what happened. When she described every detail I stopped. In the next session, I asked her to relate what happened. When the scene before the rape came, I started saying forcefully—No, you didn’t go there, you were in such and such place, doing such and such thing, along with such and such people … thus replaced all her rape-memory with something else. After the session she never remembers anything about rape—completely normal and cheerful.
My theoretical studies and experiences that come from encounters with subconscious minds of other people make it too obvious that an inner creator exists in everybody.
every theory (including darwin’s) primarily proves someone has to design a theory; every product primarily proves someone has to design it.
when neil armstrong and buzz aldrin landed on the moon it primarily proved intelligence of many people had to design that moon-mission.. 1) if every machine primarily proves someone designed it, then a much more complex, wonderful, and living machine with reproductive feature would mean the same: someone with corresponding ability, of higher energy, designed it because effect explains the cause just like harvest explains the sowing (whether you saw sowing or not).
science shows human body is like a complex machinery with many departments/systems (such as respiratory, digestive, cardiovascular/circulatory, renal/urinary, endocrine, nervous, musculoskeletal, integumentary/exocrine, lymphatic/immune, reproductive etc.
Every theory (including Darwin’s) primarily proves someone has to design a theory; every product primarily proves someone has to design it. When Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin landed on the moon it primarily proved intelligence of many people had to design that moon-mission.
1) If every machine primarily proves someone designed it, then a much more complex, wonderful, and living machine with reproductive feature would mean the same: someone with corresponding ability, of higher energy, designed it because effect explains the cause just like harvest explains the sowing (whether you saw sowing or not). Science shows human body is like a complex machinery with many departments/systems (such as respiratory, digestive, cardiovascular/circulatory, renal/urinary, endocrine, nervous, musculoskeletal, integumentary/exocrine, lymphatic/immune, reproductive etc.) made up of at least 94 elements. The brain, of course, is the crown jewel of our nervous system. “The average human brain has about 100 billion neurons (or nerve cells) and many more neuroglia (or glial cells) which serve to support and protect the neurons. Each neuron may be connected to up to 10,000 other neurons, passing signals to each other via as many as 1,000 trillion synaptic connections.” (http://www.human-memory.net/brain_neurons.html). Even to count them at the rate of one per second we need millions of years. And that’s still not the end of the matter. What’s relevant is how many ways each cell can connect with the others.
2) And this is everybody’s experience: when something spiritual enters, body [in the womb] starts functioning, and when it exits body stops functioning, which means something not physical, a spirit factor, is more important than body parts! That is why we sense that complete whole is more complete than just the sum of its parts, as the word “holistic” being defined: “The view that an organic or integrated whole has a reality independent of and greater than the sum of its parts.” (Webster’s Unabridged Dictionary) That means there is an invisible spirit entity that hold all the parts, organs and body systems together and that make me feel I am constitutionally whole, because of which I know that I am more than this body, something of higher energy. It is too obvious that something other than physical should be at work because even when we are sleeping and daydreaming, internal activity is nonstop. No wonder Yoshinori Ohsumi, Nobel Laureate in Physiology and Medicine, said in his acceptance lecture in December 2016: “Life is an equilibrium state between synthesis and degradation of proteins.” In similar vein, French physiologist, Claude Bernard, wrote: “Stability of internal environment (in the body) is the condition for free and independent life.” Words such as, systems, coordination, connecting, equilibrium, synthesis, stability, design… all point to the work of something higher and spiritual. That means, under the Process of Elimination, one has to answer to the primary question (Who am I?): “I am not elements that make up my body; I am not this body, nor the mind, nor the intellect, nor a set of memories, but I am conscious energy that cannot be created nor destroyed.” Simply put, I am a spiritual entity that uses this physical body as my vehicle.
3) This is what even our very name—human being too implies. The word human is from humus [Latin] which denotes soil, and being is all about essence/spirit of a person. Thus a human being is described as spirit using body as its vehicle; and spirituality is to live according to this knowledge. The highest state of spirituality is at the level of just being, living according to one’s true identity, with no ignorance, no prejudice, no complex (superior or inferior). One’s normal state is joy. A person in this state of joy is in harmony within and without by just being aware of the present moment, which attracts good relationship towards him. His life is simple—he learns from the past, plans for the future but lives in/enjoys the present.
how do we explain the marital role with what paul said in 1 cor.
“but i want you to realize that the head of every man is christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of christ is god.” (niv).
read a few chapters earlier at 1 corinthians 7 to see what paul does say about the relationships between husband and wife.
Apostle Paul is known for his reverse understanding. It is too obvious that God did say man had become imperfect by somebody's sin because He categorically told Cain "If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? But if you do not do what is right, sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you, but you must rule over it.” (Gen 4:6,7)
Yet Paul understood it as man having no control over sin. Hence if you want to get the truth, you must often take just opposite of what Paul says.