Posts by venus

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Please explain the Watchtower's "Ransom" for me

by Doug Mason in

according to the watchtower:.

who received the ransom payment?.

why did the ransomer need to be paid?.

venus

We need not worry about this doctrine which was found unscriptural as early as Luke's time. If Jesus really came to be murdered and thus “to take away the sin of the world” (John 1:29), he would have used his superhuman skills to explain this incomprehensible teaching (killing the innocent removes the sins of the sinners). The only passing comment Jesus made on this is found in Mathew 20:25-28 which was ascertained by Luke as later adoption, hence Luke deleted the controversial verse (“son of man came to give his life as a ransom for many”) from his account. (Luke 22:25-27)

Even after the so called ransom was paid, sin continues to rule the world, and mankind continues to be under the slavery of sin for over 2000 years.

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Bible adds to confusion

by venus in

when we become confused, we would naturally look to god’s guidance.

see what happens if we turn to the bible.. .

1) noah became drunk and lay uncovered inside his tent.

venus

When we become confused, we would naturally look to God’s guidance. See what happens if we turn to the Bible.

1) Noah became drunk and lay uncovered inside his tent. His son Ham reported the matter to his brothers who came and laid a garment on Noah’s naked body. Noah awoke from his wine and cursed Canaan instead of Ham, and consecrated this curse through a prayer, thus brought wrath of God on the entire Canaan race. Why? No answer.

(Genesis 9:20-27)

2) “‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death,” God told Moses. (Leviticus 20:1, 9) Then why Jesus was crucified instead of Satan who presented God as a liar to Adam and Eve. Why? No answer.

3) To the important question ‘Does the human spirit rises upward and the spirit of the animal go down into the earth?’ Bible itself answers “Who knows.” (Ecclesiastes 3:21)

4) To another important question ‘Why are some people born blind?’ Not only wrong, but a God-dishonoring answer is given (John 9:1-3)

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Do we need spirituality or religion to be good socially responsible people ?

by Finkelstein in

religion is declining in many countries around the world and hardly exists in some countries.. it would fair to say that scientifically acquired knowledge has taken a bite of religious practice over the years.

the premising suggestion that there is a god looking at everything mankind does or should do is vanishing out the human consciousness.. should we emulate the social directives written in ancient manuscripts established by those ancients for their civilization ?

is it possible that mankind can control and guide itself now with all the acquired knowledge we have attained, toward the ending betterment of humanity ?

venus

People and Governments who put their trust in the production and export of petrol and diesel suddenly find as though sand is eroding under their feet. After Paris Climate Agreement (signed by 195 countries on April 22, 2016) Governments all over the world are now vigorously planning to move on to electric vehicles because of the dangers caused to the climate by the use of fossil-based energy such as petrol and diesel.

This is all what is required. Humans can choose any path they want, but should change the course when they find need to change.

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Do we need spirituality or religion to be good socially responsible people ?

by Finkelstein in

religion is declining in many countries around the world and hardly exists in some countries.. it would fair to say that scientifically acquired knowledge has taken a bite of religious practice over the years.

the premising suggestion that there is a god looking at everything mankind does or should do is vanishing out the human consciousness.. should we emulate the social directives written in ancient manuscripts established by those ancients for their civilization ?

is it possible that mankind can control and guide itself now with all the acquired knowledge we have attained, toward the ending betterment of humanity ?

venus

Great points Doubtful1799,

Knowledge of God is not required for anyone to be a good person because all sorts of people are found equally among both the groups—theists and atheists.

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God is not the creator

by venus in

every theory (including darwin’s) primarily proves someone has to design a theory; every product primarily proves someone has to design it.

when neil armstrong and buzz aldrin landed on the moon it primarily proved intelligence of many people had to design that moon-mission.. 1) if every machine primarily proves someone designed it, then a much more complex, wonderful, and living machine with reproductive feature would mean the same: someone with corresponding ability, of higher energy, designed it because effect explains the cause just like harvest explains the sowing (whether you saw sowing or not).

science shows human body is like a complex machinery with many departments/systems (such as respiratory, digestive, cardiovascular/circulatory, renal/urinary, endocrine, nervous, musculoskeletal, integumentary/exocrine, lymphatic/immune, reproductive etc.

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Morpheus,

Reason means the same thing for you and for me. Take out the reason, then we won’t be able to understand anything (let alone creators and The Creator). There's an old saying: "I know I do not see the world as it is, I see the world as I am".

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God is not the creator

by venus in

every theory (including darwin’s) primarily proves someone has to design a theory; every product primarily proves someone has to design it.

when neil armstrong and buzz aldrin landed on the moon it primarily proved intelligence of many people had to design that moon-mission.. 1) if every machine primarily proves someone designed it, then a much more complex, wonderful, and living machine with reproductive feature would mean the same: someone with corresponding ability, of higher energy, designed it because effect explains the cause just like harvest explains the sowing (whether you saw sowing or not).

science shows human body is like a complex machinery with many departments/systems (such as respiratory, digestive, cardiovascular/circulatory, renal/urinary, endocrine, nervous, musculoskeletal, integumentary/exocrine, lymphatic/immune, reproductive etc.

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OnTheWayOut

That is what the OP heading means "God is not the Creator", and that is what the concluding verse means: Within each human body, there is a creator.

OP is not about God The Creator because His non-intervention and non-communication obviously show that He wants to remain unidentified. If the Almighty really wants to get His message across with incontestable clarity He would definitely have various means at His disposal to do so. Using a rain-bow like writing that would appear on the sky at regular interval so that everybody can read in their language would be a too easy job for Him. If He doesn’t do that, then it means He knows everyone knows what is right and wrong, what is beneficial and wasteful which is really the truth because

1)Everyone knows what action of others make them happy/sorrowful which means everyone knows how they should act towards others.

2)Some parts of earth is already like paradise which means humans know how to make the whole earth paradise, if they want to.

3)Some countries have never partaken in any war from their very inception which means other countries know how to go about without war if they really want.

4)Knowledge of God is not required for anyone to be a good person because all sorts of people are found among both the groups—theists and atheists.

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God is not the creator

by venus in

every theory (including darwin’s) primarily proves someone has to design a theory; every product primarily proves someone has to design it.

when neil armstrong and buzz aldrin landed on the moon it primarily proved intelligence of many people had to design that moon-mission.. 1) if every machine primarily proves someone designed it, then a much more complex, wonderful, and living machine with reproductive feature would mean the same: someone with corresponding ability, of higher energy, designed it because effect explains the cause just like harvest explains the sowing (whether you saw sowing or not).

science shows human body is like a complex machinery with many departments/systems (such as respiratory, digestive, cardiovascular/circulatory, renal/urinary, endocrine, nervous, musculoskeletal, integumentary/exocrine, lymphatic/immune, reproductive etc.

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scatchme1010,

I would capture your reaction in the following scenario:

Raining is good news for an umbrella merchant whereas it’s sorrow for a potter.

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Are Beards becoming more acceptable due to decline in membership?

by UnshackleTheChains in

i noticed a young brother with a beard being given more privelages within our hall.

when he first grew his beard, he lost his privelages.

but more and more recently he has been helping out a lot more.. the cobe is old school and a stickler for rules, but with the hall becoming more empty these days, and the need for young brothers, he seems to have relaxed on this particular watchtower/man made rule.

venus

Such diluting of standard is typical of human writers. To dilute the self-evident statement in Genesis 1:29, 30 (which says about decreed vegetarian food for both animals and humans), humans writers invented a global flood (which wipes out vegetarian food) to introduce non-vegetarian diet. (Genesis 9:3, 4)

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God is not the creator

by venus in

every theory (including darwin’s) primarily proves someone has to design a theory; every product primarily proves someone has to design it.

when neil armstrong and buzz aldrin landed on the moon it primarily proved intelligence of many people had to design that moon-mission.. 1) if every machine primarily proves someone designed it, then a much more complex, wonderful, and living machine with reproductive feature would mean the same: someone with corresponding ability, of higher energy, designed it because effect explains the cause just like harvest explains the sowing (whether you saw sowing or not).

science shows human body is like a complex machinery with many departments/systems (such as respiratory, digestive, cardiovascular/circulatory, renal/urinary, endocrine, nervous, musculoskeletal, integumentary/exocrine, lymphatic/immune, reproductive etc.

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waton,

It is already there in the OP "conscious energy that cannot be created nor destroyed"

It had no beginnin and no end; hence no concern for us

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God is not the creator

by venus in

every theory (including darwin’s) primarily proves someone has to design a theory; every product primarily proves someone has to design it.

when neil armstrong and buzz aldrin landed on the moon it primarily proved intelligence of many people had to design that moon-mission.. 1) if every machine primarily proves someone designed it, then a much more complex, wonderful, and living machine with reproductive feature would mean the same: someone with corresponding ability, of higher energy, designed it because effect explains the cause just like harvest explains the sowing (whether you saw sowing or not).

science shows human body is like a complex machinery with many departments/systems (such as respiratory, digestive, cardiovascular/circulatory, renal/urinary, endocrine, nervous, musculoskeletal, integumentary/exocrine, lymphatic/immune, reproductive etc.

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MrRoboto

You are asking: "Do you thing there will be any long term effects of repressing the memories as you led her to do? Or is this a permanent overwrite of those memories?"

It is permanent overwrite--no harm is done just like you had a dream and you forgot about it. From your inability to recall a bad dream/nightmare, no harm is done. This is done in the spirit and principle of "To be wronged is nothing unless you continue to remember it." I simply help the victim not to remember the harm done to them.

You might have heard about Dr. John Demartini, who used the affirmation towards himself: “I’m a genius and I apply my wisdom”, throughout his lifetime to accomplish amazing results and achieved outstanding success in his life. What he did to himself is done, under hypnosis, to somebody else.