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  Universal sovereignty on trial

  by Factfulness in

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  i just had a thought of clarity regarding the jw explanation for this doctrine.

  they explain that satan challenged god regarding his right to rule.

  god failed to prove his right to rule.

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  Perry,

  Account involving Nicodemus is found in John chapter 3 which is a fabrication. For example, Jesus has supposedly said: "No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.”—John 3:13

  It means only Jesus who descended from heaven has gone into heaven, no one else has gone into heaven! Jesus ascended into heaven at the end of his ministry, after his death. Hence how could he say he has ascended into heaven at the start of his ministry?

  When the writer of gospel of John wanted to put his words into the mouth of Jesus, see how unwisely he made it—he unwittingly gave a clue to the readers that it was fabricated.
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  Universal sovereignty on trial

  by Factfulness in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just had a thought of clarity regarding the jw explanation for this doctrine.

  they explain that satan challenged god regarding his right to rule.

  god failed to prove his right to rule.

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  venus

  Knowledge has often no effect on people. If it had, after Buddha everyone would have become balanced and spiritual because he understood the folly of accumulating and possessing things which one would not finish using in his life time when he was born as a heir to the throne.

  Hence God would not provide any knowledge through anybody--everyone has to follow his conscience.
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  Universal sovereignty on trial

  by Factfulness in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just had a thought of clarity regarding the jw explanation for this doctrine.

  they explain that satan challenged god regarding his right to rule.

  god failed to prove his right to rule.

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  Perry,

  All you are saying is the religious theories which religious leaders "lyingingly" formulated for their own benefit, not for people's benefit. (Jeremiah 7:22, 31; 8:8)

  Jesus rejected such theories when he said we can become "perfect" by simply practicing unconditional love. (Mathew 5:44-48)
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  Universal sovereignty on trial

  by Factfulness in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just had a thought of clarity regarding the jw explanation for this doctrine.

  they explain that satan challenged god regarding his right to rule.

  god failed to prove his right to rule.

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  Fukitol,

  There is no dilemma here. Dilemma was created because of anthropomorphic concepts of God for which God is not responsible.

  Father would not accept worship from His children, and true children would not feel the need of giving worship to their father. Children would simply love others as themselves because it is natural.

  All confusions were created by religions who used their "lying" as their main instrument, as Jeremiah rightly testified. (8:8)
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  Universal sovereignty on trial

  by Factfulness in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just had a thought of clarity regarding the jw explanation for this doctrine.

  they explain that satan challenged god regarding his right to rule.

  god failed to prove his right to rule.

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  nicolaou, and cofty

  Nicolaou, You said “Which is just how the Universe would appear if there were no god in it.”

  That is exactly my point is—God gives opportunity for everyone to make his own conclusion. When I first heard there are over 7500 variety of apple, I drew the conclusion that it is all because there is Father Figure that takes care of more than just the sustenance, and my faith in Him has only been reinforced further and further as the time passed. Yet the same knowledge may give different conclusion to another person.

  Forget about apple. Let us take the case of vast sky towards which all are drawn, a common meeting place so to say, and people seem to look up instinctively either in thanksgiving or in trouble. Ironically enough, it is also a place where scientific search and religious faith seem to coalesce naturally.

  In trying to comprehend the vastness of the universe, we would realize that it is our heart (not ego) that we need to expand like the sky—something mythologist Joseph Campbell intelligently grasped. This is what God wants—each one should make his own conclusion, and Joseph Campbell got it correctly. If he got it, it means everyone else also can get it if they want to.
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  Universal sovereignty on trial

  by Factfulness in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just had a thought of clarity regarding the jw explanation for this doctrine.

  they explain that satan challenged god regarding his right to rule.

  god failed to prove his right to rule.

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  venus

  The best thing I like about God:

  Every artist puts his signature in a corner of his painting (his own creation)—something which God never did for Himself; hence the mystery surrounding Him.

  I like Him for this characteristic of leaving the potential for surprise by not revealing Himself nor purpose of our life which means each one has to find out his purpose.

  JWs provided the best joke for Jehovah in imagining the worst about Him through their teaching of Sovereignty Issue.
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  Universal sovereignty on trial

  by Factfulness in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just had a thought of clarity regarding the jw explanation for this doctrine.

  they explain that satan challenged god regarding his right to rule.

  god failed to prove his right to rule.

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  According to Jesus the so-called Sovereignty Issue can’t even take off because he has observed that some would always choose to do what is right, and others would always choose to do what is wrong whether God rules or not. (Mathew 12:35) Hence giving a perfect start is the only viable solution and to “renew” the system of things when it becomes decadent. (Mathew 11:28)

  And also hereditary is not a factor because good children can be born to wicked parents and vice versa. For example, Manasseh was a wicked king of the Kingdom of Judah, yet he was the only son of Hezekiah who was a good king who was, ironically, born to his wicked father Ahaz.
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  Peace security

  by asp59 in

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  never have understood why sudden destruction most come after announcement of peace and security.

  is not peace and security a good thing?

  can someone give a logical answer to it..

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  1Thess 5:3 has no meaning just like verses such as those that say Joshua stopped the sun and the moon, Jesus and Satan together went to a mountain top so that they can see the whole kingdoms of the earth ....

  If it did have meaning, the world would have been ended in 1945 when the UN was established or in 1986 when it declared International Year for Peace.
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  Which Religion is best for you.

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  The very thing religions have not yet understood is the very word religion which they mean by their very action to be divisive whereas in truth religion has to with re-bonding (from Latin religare, which means “to tie again,” to bring into harmony again.)
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  Death's in Noah's flood

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  has the wt ever come out with an article that indicates how many people died during the mythical flood?

  i searched on their site but couldn't find anything.

  any help would be greatly appreciated.

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  venus

  Hi Roboto, You asked: “So how long you figure we got before the machines reset us?”

  I don’t think humanity would survive long breathing CO2 (we pumped 39.8 billion tons of CO2 into the air, just in 2013 alone) as air is massively being polluted daily. Let it have its natural run—which means when all humans return to their real home, it is time for God Father to renew what has become decadent in line with what we find in the nature.

  Situation could be precipitated with our dear President Trump. "You can't manage what you don't measure. The adage is especially relevant for climate-warming greenhouse gases, which are crucial to manage—and challenging to measure. In recent years, though, satellite and aircraft instruments have begun monitoring carbon dioxide and methane remotely, and NASA's Carbon Monitoring System (CMS), a $10-million-a-year research line, has helped stitch together observations of sources and sinks into high-resolution models of the planet's flows of carbon. Now, President Donald Trump's administration has quietly killed the CMS, Science has learned."

  http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/05/trump-white-house-quietly-cancels-nasa-research-verifying-greenhouse-gas-cuts