Posts by venus

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Are JWs the most corporate religion?

by cookiemaster in

i find it pretty shocking how corporate the jw religion is.

i never saw it this way when i was in but now that i look at it from a different perspective, it seems quite clear.

much of the terminology used by jws is corporate inspired.

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Corporate religions produce people of same mentality. The most fundamental error of all religions is that none of them was courageous enough to accept that there are things which we don’t know. They all pretended to know everything, they all pretended to know that they were all omniscient.... hence gave answers from their own minds. For example, Jesus linked diseases with evil-spirits. (Matt 12:22-28; Luke 13:16) He lamented on the behavior of other people (Mathew 11:21; 23:37), resorted to name-calling (Luke 13:32) ... etc., which are definitely not the evidence having divine/perfect knowledge of handling things effectively.

Because religious leaders gave human answers there arose conflicted religions. What a chaos it could have cause if everyone followed same attitude—then we would have had an Islamic physics, a Hindu physics, a Christian physics …etc

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The Bible a wierd book.

by James Mixon in

some events in the bible can be questionable but there are some stories the rings of truth, and why do i say that because they are so descriptive.

judges 3:22 "ehud an israelite judge, goes to the king of the moabites to pay annual tribute.

instead, he pulls out a dagger and stabs the sh--t out of the king while he is bathing, he literal caused the sh--t to flow and the dagger disappeared in the folds of the king's skin.

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Many a time Bible is out of touch with reality. It describes the creation of man in one sentence, yet describes the menstruation of woman in great details.

When it comes to the main theme of the Bible Paul obviously had a tunnel vision and ignored facts he could have known through even a cursory observation. Anyone can see a variety of people acting/reacting differently in same situation: Some do more righteous acts, some do more sinful acts, and others mix both the activities in varying degrees. And there are interesting contrasts too. For example, there are some very poor people who refuse to steal, yet there are very wealthy people who steal in various ways. It shows every act—whether sinful or righteous—is done out of choice! Hence there are all sorts of people from sinless to the sinful ones yet with the freedom existing for the sinless to commit sin and for the sinful to commit virtues and also with the freedom to mix both in varying degree because things change according to one’s desire which arise out of free-will. (James 1:15)

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Solomon's gold mines called a myth but there's one so-called prophecy that always makes me stop and think

by Isambard Crater in

the authenticity of the old testament account of solomon is being called into question in the news media:.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/king-solomons-fabulous-hidden-gold-mines-are-a-myth-historian-says-194663/.

for the most-part, i don't really want to believe the bible as true, certainly not the j.w version including their stubbornness over 607 and 1914. but there's one prophecy that always makes me stop and wonder if maybe some of the bible was inspired by god, if he or she exists.

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Phizzy wrote: "I have yet to discover a Bible "prophecy" that was written before the event and was fulfilled in the exact terms of the prophecy."

Even if you find a prophecy in the Bible in its true sense, still it won't prove divine authorship because when Hiroshima and Nagasaki were nuked during the last days of second World War in 1945 on August 6 and 9 respectively, Albert Einstein said, ' Though it's terribly painful, new lives and purposes will emerge from the ashes of two great cities and they'll become even greater.' And it came true!

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“Worldly” people also can teach spirituality

by venus in

i was listening to an interview of a hollywood actress.

when the interviewer brought to her attention a criticism somebody made against her, she replied in sheer dispassion: “he doesn’t need my permission to criticize me.”.

i rated in my mind this as the height of spirituality because spirituality is egolessness.

venus

I was listening to an interview of a Hollywood actress. When the interviewer brought to her attention a criticism somebody made against her, she replied in sheer dispassion: “He doesn’t need my permission to criticize me.”

I rated in my mind this as the height of spirituality because spirituality is egolessness. Try this with an Elder, CO or even GB, or with their wives. He/she will be terribly upset and totally disturbed and would likely to respond like this:

“When did he say that?

“Who were the witnesses?

“Has he told the same to anybody else? …

I think enlightenment happens when we have gone through the journey of the range of experiences. Life experiences have the same value, whether we label them as “good / spiritual or bad/mundane.” What truly matters is the change of consciousness happening by going through the experiences, in our personal journey. Consciousness will change in our journey at some point in time. Experience is the true teacher.

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Are JWs the most corporate religion?

by cookiemaster in

i find it pretty shocking how corporate the jw religion is.

i never saw it this way when i was in but now that i look at it from a different perspective, it seems quite clear.

much of the terminology used by jws is corporate inspired.

venus

corporate and individual mentality is same:

Why do you live?
To earn money.
For what?

So I can live better.
What is better?
To have things… and for that we need money…

Corporates sell goods/service, religious corporates sell enlightenment!

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Solomon's gold mines called a myth but there's one so-called prophecy that always makes me stop and think

by Isambard Crater in

the authenticity of the old testament account of solomon is being called into question in the news media:.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/king-solomons-fabulous-hidden-gold-mines-are-a-myth-historian-says-194663/.

for the most-part, i don't really want to believe the bible as true, certainly not the j.w version including their stubbornness over 607 and 1914. but there's one prophecy that always makes me stop and wonder if maybe some of the bible was inspired by god, if he or she exists.

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Halfbanana,

Interesting explanation [“In it he portrayed man's history through an allegory of an image of different metals successively decreasing in worth from a fabled golden race down to powerful empires represented by iron”]

You are right: There is no prophetic element in this image allegory because this is what we observe in history.

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Solomon's gold mines called a myth but there's one so-called prophecy that always makes me stop and think

by Isambard Crater in

the authenticity of the old testament account of solomon is being called into question in the news media:.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/king-solomons-fabulous-hidden-gold-mines-are-a-myth-historian-says-194663/.

for the most-part, i don't really want to believe the bible as true, certainly not the j.w version including their stubbornness over 607 and 1914. but there's one prophecy that always makes me stop and wonder if maybe some of the bible was inspired by god, if he or she exists.

venus

deegee,

Excellent information

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Solomon's gold mines called a myth but there's one so-called prophecy that always makes me stop and think

by Isambard Crater in

the authenticity of the old testament account of solomon is being called into question in the news media:.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/king-solomons-fabulous-hidden-gold-mines-are-a-myth-historian-says-194663/.

for the most-part, i don't really want to believe the bible as true, certainly not the j.w version including their stubbornness over 607 and 1914. but there's one prophecy that always makes me stop and wonder if maybe some of the bible was inspired by god, if he or she exists.

venus

Isambard Crater

You say: “I'm pretty much looking for someone to shoot these Daniel prophecies down but am open to all ideas.”

God and Jesus have, by their action, already taught us that they cannot foresee future by way of an illustration (Mathew 21:33-39) He sent Jesus on to earth with some expectation, yet things went in opposite direction which means He does nothing to control the use of humans or the natural unfolding of history.

If God does foresee future, it would mean that incidents are foreordained in which case it is not foreseeing.

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Losing my Hold On JW speak. Has it Happened to You Yet and if so, How?

by Wasanelder Once in

i was reading a post on here and the poster said she went to the door twice because her mother made her go again when she didn't see her children talk to the man.

the poster said, "at least i got an rv out of it.".

ok, its been a few years, but for the first time i thought of "recreational vehicle" and not "return visit" when i read this.

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Even the very name Jehovah's Witnesses has this problem. It gives the impression that God Almighty is a defendant in some judicial court and in need of human help to come out of the mess Satan created.

If the name of the organization is meaningless, we can imagine how logical other terminologies they use!

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No shame in being apostate

by venus in

the one who is standing away is apostate (literally "to stand off," from apo- "away from" + stenai "to stand").

ironically, proponents of untruth may call truth-seekers as apostates, thus making the term meaningless.. for example, paul, the greatest of all apostles, taught untruth (stood away from truth) [see his main teaching in romans 5:12-21] even though he had known the following truths:.

1) all humans did not become sinners through one man (genesis 5:24; job 1:8; psalm 18:23; ezekiel 14:14 and compare habakkuk 2:4), hence there was no need for anyone to pay ransom.. 2) in the old testament, the messiah refers to a “prince of peace” who literally rules from jerusalem, not merely anointed to the office to do the work in some distant future and get killed before that future occurs.

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Crazyguy & steve2,

Thanks for that insightful information