Posts by venus

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Generation

by Jrjw in

please could someone explain to me what the generation thing i keep seeing in people's threads was that had lots of people leave the wts coz it was way before i became a witness.

All these repeated readjustment on the word “generation” shows that Jesus never spoke such a sentence (found in Mathew 24:34) because the following verses he purportedly said was about Noah’s flood which has never occurred [Even if Noah’s ark is scientifically possible with a bigger vessel that takes care of 8.7 million species, theologically and logically it is not possible for God to handle a situation that puts greater hardship on the righteous than on the wicked who died in a few minutes after getting drowned in the water]. (Mathew 24:36-39)

This means the sentence “this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened” (Mathew 24:34) is from the thoughtless writer, not from Jesus.

Like any other religion and its scripture, Bible too right only in its essence, not in details. In essence all religions and scriptures are true because they say God exists, and mechanism of ‘reaping what one sows’ too exists. Hence clinging on to details would land anyone into trouble.

Interestingly, Christendom's theologians say gospel of Mathew was written after 70 CE which means after the destruction of temple. Hence writer took advantage of the already-happened-event putting it into a prophetic mode.

Trinitarian verse that was put into Jesus' mouth (Mathew 28:19) shows Gospel of Mathew was written even much later because doctrine of trinity was a later development.

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Evolution doesn't happen today...WRONG...

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

last year i had a brother tell me that one proof evolution is false is that he doesn't see it happening today... i was going to bring of viruses evolving so fast that new vaccines must be developed each year but felt he was too closed minded to receive it.

today i was listening to the audio book of 'an ancestors tale- richard dawkins' and noted oe point that shined through.. here is evolution happening>>>.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/05/2/l_052_05.html.

venus

Hi WhatshallIcallmyself

Thank you for correcting my spelling mistake.

You said: “that there is a biblical god are baseless...”

I was showing how Bible writers were evolving which has nothing to do with God of the Universe.

Even if Noah’s ark is scientifically possible with a bigger vessel that takes care of 8.7 million species, theologically it is not possible for God to handle a situation that puts greater hardship on the righteous than on the wicked who died in a few minutes after getting drowned in the water.

If Noah’s flood never happened it doesn’t mean God doesn’t exist. If God doesn’t exist, then it would mean materialism is the truth. But you cannot say materialism is truth because truth is not material. Moreover, materialism cannot explain what defines our basis human nature, our every desire and human flourishing, and things such as wisdom, truth, love, joy, hope, destiny, purpose, compassion, tolerance, morality, art, music, ingenuity, ability to conceive abstract concepts and to communicate them …which are all non-quantifiable.

Such things make sense only when we take God into account as implied in the following statement: “As we conquer peak after peak we see in front of us regions full of interest and beauty, but we do not see our goal, we do not see the horizon; in the distance tower still higher peaks, which will yield to those who ascend them still wider prospects, and deepen the feeling, the truth of which is emphasized by every advance in science, that ‘Great are the Works of the Lord’.”—Sir Joseph J. Thomson, Nobel Laureate, discoverer of the electron, who is also recognized as the founder of atomic physics.

Antony Flew describes an experiment conducted by the British National Council of Arts. A computer was placed in a cage with six monkeys. After one month of hammering away at it (as well as using it as a bathroom!), the monkeys produced fifty typed pages—but not a single word even though the shortest word in the English language is one letter (a or I). A is a word only if there is a space on either side of it. If we take it that the keyboard has thirty characters (the twenty-six letters and other symbols), then the likelihood of getting a one-letter word is 30 times 30 times 30, which is 27,000. The likelihood of a getting a one-letter word is one chance out of 27,000.—There is a God, Antony Flew, page 100.

Now imagine the chance of universe creating itself, life evolving, consciousness evolving …

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Evolution doesn't happen today...WRONG...

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

last year i had a brother tell me that one proof evolution is false is that he doesn't see it happening today... i was going to bring of viruses evolving so fast that new vaccines must be developed each year but felt he was too closed minded to receive it.

today i was listening to the audio book of 'an ancestors tale- richard dawkins' and noted oe point that shined through.. here is evolution happening>>>.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/05/2/l_052_05.html.

venus

Cofty,

People vary in their responses. See how two atheists look at DNA.

Richard Dwakins writes in dispassion: “A monkey is a machine that preserves genes up trees, a fish is a machine that preserves genes in the water; there is even a small worm that preserves genes in German beer mats. DNA works in mysterious ways.” (Selfish Gene)

But Antony Flew who was a great champion of atheism for over 50 years changed his view on DNA when he revisited it with an open mind: “What I think the DNA material has done is that it has shown, by the almost unbelievable complexity of the arrangements which are needed to produce (life), that intelligence must have been involved in getting these extraordinarily diverse elements to work together.” (There is a God, Antony Flew, page 75)

There is a reason why responses vary. In The Design of Life, William Dembski and Jonathon Wells write: “Many of the systems inside the cell represent nanotechnology at a scale and sophistication that dwarfs human engineering. Moreover, our ability to understand the structure and function of these systems depends directly on our facility with engineering principles.”

But good news is that God is not concerned about your beliefs—whether you are atheists or member of a religion. He is concerned whether you were altruistic when you were living on earth. (Mathew 25:31-46) Interestingly, this is what something even Richard Dwakins stresses: “If there is a human moral to be drawn, it is that we must teach our children altruism, for we cannot expect it to be part of their biological nature.” (Selfish Gene)

Interestingly, altruism is the very basis of God. (Mark 10:18)

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Silly Bible Stories we once believed

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

these bible stories are too silly to be true.

take off your rose colored glasses and you will begin to see some great imagination, exaggeration and great story telling!.

telling !.

venus

Yet there is something unique about the Bible. This is the book that gave rise to over 43000 sects with each of them believing in the Bible yet is convinced that they are right whereas rest of the sects are false.

https://theway21stcentury.wordpress.com/2012/11/23/how-many-christian-denominations-worldwide/

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Evolution doesn't happen today...WRONG...

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

last year i had a brother tell me that one proof evolution is false is that he doesn't see it happening today... i was going to bring of viruses evolving so fast that new vaccines must be developed each year but felt he was too closed minded to receive it.

today i was listening to the audio book of 'an ancestors tale- richard dawkins' and noted oe point that shined through.. here is evolution happening>>>.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/05/2/l_052_05.html.

venus

Cofty,

At the core of evolutionists and atheists is the hatred of irreligiousness and irrationality of religions. Typical example is modern day atheism High Priest Richard Dwakin's God Delusion. Book speaks more on religious irrationality than the process of evolution.

Many people like The Theory of Evolution because they too hate the irrational stories of religions and luxurious life-style of religious leaders even though theory cannot explain too great things such as origin of universe, origin of life, origin of consciousness ...

Sir Alfred Ayer, Howard Storm, Antony Flew were all once fundamaterialists. Once on their own, they left their blind belief on matter.

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Evolution doesn't happen today...WRONG...

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

last year i had a brother tell me that one proof evolution is false is that he doesn't see it happening today... i was going to bring of viruses evolving so fast that new vaccines must be developed each year but felt he was too closed minded to receive it.

today i was listening to the audio book of 'an ancestors tale- richard dawkins' and noted oe point that shined through.. here is evolution happening>>>.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/05/2/l_052_05.html.

venus

Cofty,

I was just trying to direct attention to a related truth.

Theory of evolution came as an act of frustration because excesses of religions were too intolerable at that time. Darwin did not know that religions were really enemies of God—they were using God for their own luxurious life style. To attack the very basis of religions something had to be invented which resulted in The Theory of Evolution.

In other words, irreligiousness of all religions was the CAUSE, and expression of atheism through theory of evolution was the EFFECT. It means Cause and Effect principle is at work behind everything. Irreligiousness of religions was an evolution from true spirituality that existed when earth was paradise. This condition will not be permitted eternally. At the right time God would “renew” the system of things. (Mathew 19:28)

Shadow of the things to come has already started appearing even now. Have a look at what is happening at Russia's Seashore Safari Park and other places …

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IvDImlML2k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUg9E41ImzY

i said it was an act of frustration because Darwin knew that he could explain certain things through theory of evolution, very great things such as origin of universe, life, consciousness could not be explained.

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Silly Bible Stories we once believed

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

these bible stories are too silly to be true.

take off your rose colored glasses and you will begin to see some great imagination, exaggeration and great story telling!.

telling !.

venus

smiddy3, The writers thought resurrection would be a great proof for Messiahship hence they invented stories of people being resurrected, but they had no idea that the great genius Paul would come later and invent another doctrine that says one man's sin would make every one sinners and one man's death would make everyone righteous.

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Silly Bible Stories we once believed

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

these bible stories are too silly to be true.

take off your rose colored glasses and you will begin to see some great imagination, exaggeration and great story telling!.

telling !.

venus

Look at the wisdom of the writer of "Lord's prayer." (Mathew 6:9-13)

* Let God's name be sanctified (redundant, His name is inherently and always holy)

* Lead us not into temptation (something God would never do)

* Give us our daily food (this is like a fish in the ocean seeking water--we are flooded with provisions for life's enjoyment--all fruits, seeds, grain ... in thousands of varieties)

* Forgive us our debts as we also have forgiven our debtors. (teaching God how to behave Himself)

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Silly Bible Stories we once believed

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

these bible stories are too silly to be true.

take off your rose colored glasses and you will begin to see some great imagination, exaggeration and great story telling!.

telling !.

venus

Interestingly, Bible itself gives something that negates the rest of the things it says.

See what it says about how everyone would be judged. All nations—including atheists—would be judged according to humanitarian acts each one performed, not according to belief in any God. (Mathew 25:31-46)

In outlook and wisdom, Bible writers too are no different from Pope John Paul II who attributed his survival from assassin’s bullets to intervention by “Our Lady of Fatima.” See how he failed to wonder why “Our Lady of Fatima” didn't guide the assassin’s bullets to miss him altogether.

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Whenever anyone claims to speak to you in the Name of GOD,simply reject them as Charlatans

by smiddy3 in

all of the names attributed to the almighty god are nothing more than the inventions and imaginations of imperfect human beings.. their are only four hebrew letters that are attributed to god in the hebrew scriptures known as the tetragrammaton usually translated as jhvh or more accurately yhwh .. their is no tetragrammaton or it`s equivalent in the christian greek scriptures which can easily be attested to by looking at the kingdom interlinear of the christian greek scriptures of the new testament published by the wtb&ts a word for word translation of the greek text.. anything other than that is an addition of imperfect humans to put a name to those letters and not one that the creator has endorsed or verified with his stamp of approval to this day.. the wtb&ts published "aid to bible understanding" in their first edition they said words to the effect that the name jehovah was the most commonly used in christendom/the world ,so that was the name they adopted.. { it had nothing to do with divine revelation or a voice from god or holy spirit it was because it was the most popular use of that name in christendom }.

venus

Name Jehovah, associated with the myth of exodus, cannot be the real name. This is attested by the fact that Jesus profusely used the term “Father” instead of Jehovah.

If at all there is a name, it should stem from His most important act He regularly performs in large scale. According to Jesus, God “renews” the world whenever humans deplete/destroy the provisions for life’s enjoyment. (Mathew 19:28) Hence His name must do with this aspect—something like omnibenevolent which is hinted at throughout the Bible (Mark 10:18; Psalm 100:5; Psalm 145:17; 2 Peter 3:9 ….)

His love is unmistakably highlighted in Mathew 25:31-46 where it is shown that all nations—including atheists—are judged according to humanitarian acts each one performed, not according to belief in any God.