Posts by venus

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Using Watchtowers Own Reasoning Against Them RE: The Governing Body

by pale.emperor in

something occurred to me today.

quite randomly as i was working away at my desk i remembered an illustration from the bible teach book in which satan claimed he knew better than jehovah about ruling mankind.

here's the illustration from chapter 11 of that book:.

Hi truth_b_known

That's a brilliant idea which God would have definitely opted for if there were really an issue of the sovereignty.

That would have also spared God of seeing His only begotten son dying with an excruciating pain.

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Watchtower May 2018

by Listener in

the may 2018 watchtower is now out and thought i would make a few observations.in this article we get a story about gb sam herd.

the recurring theme throughout is the struggles he has had as a black man.he was born in 1935 in a one roomed log cabin in liberty indiana.

his mother raised him in the baptist church.

What Sam Herd could have thought was “Why Kofi Atta Annan was elected as the seventh Secretary-General of the United Nations in 1996 when such a thing was not even thought of by GB which was comprised by all white people from its very inception?

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Using Watchtowers Own Reasoning Against Them RE: The Governing Body

by pale.emperor in

something occurred to me today.

quite randomly as i was working away at my desk i remembered an illustration from the bible teach book in which satan claimed he knew better than jehovah about ruling mankind.

here's the illustration from chapter 11 of that book:.

venus

In either way it would backfire on GB. If someone raises an issue against the way in which GB handles certain things they have two option—either to copy God or go in opposite direction

First option is to disfellowship (which again is not a theocratic way of handling, according to their own teaching)

Second option is to permit the accuser to prove his point (which is against their own organizational procedure)

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The Psychological Benefits of Contemplating Death

by Brokeback Watchtower in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3udk1uejh0.

venus

Nice video, and I agree with its message that death serves a good purpose. It is like speed breakers on the road which seem to be an inconvenience or annoyance. However, when viewed from larger perspective it becomes good because speed breaker near to places like school prevents accidents that can happen to little ones who may come on to the road carelessly.

Similarly, if viewed mechanically death may appear as a curse, but if viewed from larger perspective, death would appear as good. ‘What if there is no death, if one goes on growing more and more vibrant physically, perfecting his skills and talents, and even growing in money power, influence ….etc.? He would probably behave like King David who was very humble to start with but finally turned out to be greedy and arrogant who began to add more wives and numerous women to his harem, and went to the extent of treacherously killing his faithful friend to steal his wife. Then comes death, an inevitable event in everyone’s life. While waiting for death with often ailing body one begins to see all the wasteful things he thought, said and performed in his life! He correctly thinks: “I am not that important as I thought, I have no basis to feel I did or owned this and that …” which means he is now free from the shackles of wanting and from bondage to body, mind, and ego. In such a state one can see clearly all the wasteful things he did in his life. On the contrary if there is no death, self-importance of people would go on growing with each one perfecting his wickedness and arrogance, and this will ensure eternal hell on earth.

That means the experience gained in one life would be an asset in the next life. Subject of life after death need not be based on some speculation because we all know one absolute truth that we exist. This is a good foundation to build upon. I go like this: “I exist; I am consciousness with a conscience knowing what is right and wrong. I did not create myself. I came through my parents who came through their parents—a system that can have no beginning. If one has only one life, justice demands that everyone should receive equal life-span and equal opportunities for enjoyment of life. If life continues even after death, as in the case of Elijah who reappeared as John the Baptist (Mathew 11:14), everyone’s life situation can be different depending upon each one’s merit: “For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.” (Luke 6:38)

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Using Watchtowers Own Reasoning Against Them RE: The Governing Body

by pale.emperor in

something occurred to me today.

quite randomly as i was working away at my desk i remembered an illustration from the bible teach book in which satan claimed he knew better than jehovah about ruling mankind.

here's the illustration from chapter 11 of that book:.

venus

Amelia Ashton

That illustration always bothered you because the Issue of the Sovereignty was never raised. If it were true, then the supposed way of handling by God would only further heap reproach on God's name. How an unwise way of handling! It proves that unrelated parities should suffer if there there is some disagreement between two persons.

In fact one can easily reject first four chapters of Genesis because chapter 5 begins like this: "This is the written account of Adam’s family line." This would mean preceding chapters are somebody's imagination.

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Using Watchtowers Own Reasoning Against Them RE: The Governing Body

by pale.emperor in

something occurred to me today.

quite randomly as i was working away at my desk i remembered an illustration from the bible teach book in which satan claimed he knew better than jehovah about ruling mankind.

here's the illustration from chapter 11 of that book:.

venus

pale.emperor made the first half and littlerockguy made the second half.—What a perfect reasoning, as though scoring a hat trick. Hats off to you both. Now I really feel for JWs. They believe in something 100%, and untruthfulness of it can never occur to their minds. And this is true of any ism and religion. Only an outsider can see its flaws. In other words truth exists in all religions and isms scattered. Hence there is no point in getting struck with one religion or ism; but one should go beyond all and look at them as though viewing the valleys from a mountain top.

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a question after my first JW meeting

by bleak in

i attended my first jw meeting recently.

first, i would like to say what i agree with about the jehovah's witnesses beliefs and practices.. 1. they don't consider israeli's as "god's chosen people" and they don't worship israel as some holy land filled with righteous jews (although there are some there) as most so-called "christians" (christian zionists) erroneously believe they are instead of the "hypocrites" and "vipers" that it is actually filled with.. 2. they don't celebrate "holidays" like easter and christmas which are, in fact, remnants of earlier pagan practices.. 3. they don't put nation before god and christ.

they don't believe in war or going to war because of some crazy government/cia secret agenda.

venus

They are right in many details. But they are absolutely wrong in teaching and practicing what ultimate duty is (not hurting others)—a cause all the prophets stand for. (Mathew 7:12). If one disagrees with any of their teachings, he is shunned forever. God is not interested in details (Mathew 7:21-23); but He accepts anyone (including atheists) who is humanitarian. (Mathew 25:31-46) All other scriptural verses that contradict this fundamental truth are of human origin.

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What would you say?

by Freedom rocks in

if you had 2 minutes with an old witness friend or with a family member to convince them the 'truth' is a lie and the gb isnt being directed by god what would you say to get their attention that might make them question their beliefs?.

venus

Here is an organization that claims to represent Jehovah "who never changes" (Mal 3:6) yet continues to make changes in its teaching. Do you think you can reconcile these two things?

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Daniel explanation

by Freedom rocks in

can anyone explain to me please about the statue in the daniel prophecy coz i've always been curious about what people have discovered about it?

do the jws have the only explanation?.

venus

What is described in Daniel is the copy from other cultures which teach that history declines in quality as the time passes by, and its declining phases are symbolized gold, brass (or silver), copper and iron. Scriptures of different cultures differ only in details, not in essence. This is the common thread we see in all of them. God makes provisions for the enjoyment of life and leaves the work of their fair distribution to humans. (Luke 3:11) But humans leave greed to rule their lives which results in abundance in one place and deprivation in another place. This situation is the second part of the history. First part was perfect. (Gen 1:26-2:3). And God restores perfection in due course. Thus Jesus defines God as the one who “renews/recreates” the provisions for life’s enjoyment whenever humans deplete/destroy them. (Mathew 19:28)

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Gordon Nehemia - Finding God's holy name with full vowels

by Da.Furious in

i was just sent a link to a jewish scholar that apparently he has found 1,000 manuscripts with yehovah and latest discovery is one with vowels that supports the spelling yehovah.

so this pits the myth that jews have forgotten the name into rest.. i got excited jws about the finding in support of the nwt showing the name as it should be.. just wanted to share this with you guys.. link to the blog and podcat: https://www.nehemiaswall.com/1000-manuscripts-yehovah#more-13611.

also link to michael rood (blog:https://www.michaelrood.tv/) interview who is his friend:.

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_Morpheus

I study all isms and go beyond them, thus I have my own conclusion. Hinduism teaches that a virgin (Kunti) gave birth to six children (who came to be called Pandavas); Christianity teaches that a Virgin (Mary) gave birth to one child (Jesus); Evolutionism teaches that matter (virgin) gave birth to many forms of lives. They only differ in details, not in principle. If you are stuck with just one ism, you will ask questions such as ‘Why poverty in Africa, why millions are massacred, raped…?’ Such questions indirectly ascribe glory to God for the abundance in affluent nations, for people who are not yet murdered and for women who are not yet raped.

God has made provisions for the enjoyment of life and has left the work of their fair distribution to humans. (Luke 3:11) But humans have left greed to rule their lives which has resulted in abundance in one place and deprivation in another place. This situation is the second part of the history. First part was perfect. (Gen 1:26-2:3). Jesus defines God as the one who “renews/recreates” the provisions for life’s enjoyment whenever humans deplete/destroy them. (Mathew 19:28)