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  Another flip flop

  by blownaway in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8hzakyfazc this is a talk this year about how to stay loyal to the cult.

  it talks about not blaming yourself when your child is dfed.

  but wait, when i was in the cult the elders told the parents of dfed children that it was their fault.

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  venus

  Primary factor is parental care:

  "According to American SPCC, children who grow up in households with loving, supportive parents have a much better chance at becoming healthy, successful adults."
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  What makes you---YOU?

  by eyeuse2badub in

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  of course this is an open ended question but have you ever really thought about what makes you who you are?.

  is it our looks, our personality, our physique, our intelligence, our experiences and subsequent memories, our beliefs?

  is it a combination of all these things and even more?

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  venus

  When I was following the crowd, I believed I was this body. But after my encounter with Past Regression (my own and of others) I would say: I am the builder of this body which means there is a platform that serves as precondition for this body and even for my thinking to arrive at. Even the subconscious and super-conscious states relate more to the mind than pure consciousness which is beyond the limitations of body-mind. For this to know, you don’t need endorsement from an external source. If we unlearn everything we have heard about who we are and view our very make-up objectively, we would realize that first we are conscious before we perceive, act, know, think or feel.
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  Most illogical verse in the Bible

  by Ireneus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in exodus 20:3-5 god is depicted as saying: “you should have no other gods” and worshipping them would bring ‘punishment for three to four generation’ and worshipping me would bring blessings for “a thousand generations.”.

  the sentiments behind this command is same as the one that was displayed by othello who punished his wife desdemona all because of a handkerchief (given to her by othello on their honeymoon) that was happened to be found with someone else.. if it were the real god, he would have said something like this: “you are my children, and you should not worship me.

  how can father accept worship from his children?

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  venus

  smiddy3,

  Isaiah has already declared account of sacrifice of Abel is not an inspired one when he wrote: "He who kills an ox is like one who slays a man" (Isaiah 66:3). Account is surely someone's wild imagination.
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  Most illogical verse in the Bible

  by Ireneus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in exodus 20:3-5 god is depicted as saying: “you should have no other gods” and worshipping them would bring ‘punishment for three to four generation’ and worshipping me would bring blessings for “a thousand generations.”.

  the sentiments behind this command is same as the one that was displayed by othello who punished his wife desdemona all because of a handkerchief (given to her by othello on their honeymoon) that was happened to be found with someone else.. if it were the real god, he would have said something like this: “you are my children, and you should not worship me.

  how can father accept worship from his children?

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  waton Nice Point

  Would the Americans ever forget their Founding Fathers? Never. Yet Exodus says God made Joseph “father to Pharaoh.” (Genesis 45:8); and Egyptians “mourned the death of Joseph’s Father for seventy days” (Genesis 50:3).

  Then in the next chapter we read: “Then a new king, who did not know about Joseph, came to power in Egypt.” (Exodus 1:8) Impossible for a king to forget such a great leader like Joseph who saved the whole empire from famine of 7 years!”

  Exodus is full of God-dishonoring verses such as 3:22; 4:11 …etc …proof of things written without the knowledge of God.
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  How does mankind know what happen before we were created??

  by James Mixon in

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  2. bible

  for example, "and god said, let there be light: and there was light.

  "a personal and vocal god said, "let there be light.

  "so god saw the light, and thought it good, but how did the priestly scribe know that he did?

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  venus

  Here is one out of hundreds of treasures from Lao Tzu:

  "At the center of your being you have the answer; you know who you are and you know what you want."
  
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  How does mankind know what happen before we were created??

  by James Mixon in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for example, "and god said, let there be light: and there was light.

  "a personal and vocal god said, "let there be light.

  "so god saw the light, and thought it good, but how did the priestly scribe know that he did?

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  venus

  All scriptures are imagination of human beings which can be proved by looking at the main theme they have all come out with:

  a) Eternal life in heaven or in hell on the basis of just one birth which means even premature death of children, or

  b) Eternal merging with God.

  Both these concepts make no sense at all. Regarding the first option, what Bernard Shaw said is very true: “Nobody could stand an eternity of Heaven.”

  Regarding the second option, we can ask: If we come here on to earth to purify ourselves through many births as some religions teach and then to be merged with God, why such a need arose in the first place when we were in God who is the source of all purity. That means second option also not logical.

  Each one has to find himself the purpose of life as we are able to bounce back to the now [being in the now itself is like being in heaven], to introspect, to discriminate essence from details, to judge what is beneficial from what is wasteful, to cooperate and to adjust. For example, look at the sayings of Lao Tzu—what a profound wisdom which many religious leaders may have been influenced by. How did he get it? By himself. If he could discern truth thousands of years before, anyone can also do so at anytime, anywhere if he wants to.
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  Active witnesses? Please help?

  by Ahava in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi,i'm lost and a little sad.

  i actually like the jw faith.

  some might call this faith cold, strict, dogmatic but they're just trying to follow rules and give back to god.

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  Yes, punkofnice

  True, I was on a holiday for three weeks.
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  Active witnesses? Please help?

  by Ahava in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi,i'm lost and a little sad.

  i actually like the jw faith.

  some might call this faith cold, strict, dogmatic but they're just trying to follow rules and give back to god.

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  venus

  a) If you look at it scripturally, you would find that Jesus was cautioning the world against JWs (who keep on changing the time-table of Jesus’ coming/end of the world) when he said:

  “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.” (Mathew 24:26, 27)

  These verses and his previous caution (in Mathew 7:21-23) clearly prove that no organization is appointed to announce to the world the presence/coming of Jesus.

  b) If you look at them from the level of common sense, you would agree that we are all human beings first (from humus, Latin, soil/physical elements + being or conscious/immaterial entity) which means we are all children of God--an ultimate truth, glory of which cannot be shaken by too weak reasoning such as 'if one does not share our belief system, we should not greet him.' Yet JWs practice shunning as a weapon which makes them inhuman.
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  Job 26:7 “Earth is hanged upon nothing”—proof of inspiration?

  by Ireneus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  jws has been saying bible is authored by god because job 26:7 says: “earth is being hanged upon nothing.” and this verse in combination with isaiah 40:22 which says “god resides above the circle of earth” implies that earth is spherical and remains unsupported from above or from beneath.

  thus, bible contains the knowledge which science confirmed later.. however, recent understanding of science is that the whole visible part of the universe is only 4%, and the visible exists because of the invisible 96%-- “dark matter 26%” and “dark energy 70%”--which is a fifth and previously unknown type of fundamental force called quintessence, which fills the universe like a fluid serving as a support to the visible universe.

  https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/space/dark-matter/.

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  venus

  That part--96% of the universe is dark matter and dark energy "which fills the universe like a fluid serving as a support to the visible universe"--is interesting.

  That means 4% visible things are like fishes in the vast ocean.
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  Trump mentality = Watchtower mentality

  by doubtfull1799 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the fake news is working overtime.

  just reported that, despite the tremendous success we are having with the economy & all things else, 91% of the network news about me is negative (fake).

  why do we work so hard in working with the media when it is corrupt?

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  venus

  In fact Jesus was cautioning the world against JWs (who keep on changing the time-table of Jesus’ coming/end of the world) when he said:

  “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.” (Mathew 24:26, 27)

  These verses and his previous caution (in Mathew 7:21-23) clearly prove that no organization is appointed to announce to the world the presence/coming of Jesus.