What about letter 5?
5. Brothers "at that time" of the "Assyrian attack" please follow your elders to the nearest "life saving" FEMA internment camp.
(WT 11/15/2013; pg. 20, par. 17)
anonymouz
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4 Letters from the Branch read tonight, no warning from this site
by James Jackson intonight at our meeting we had 4 letters from "the branch" read at our meeting.
i was caught off guard since we usually have an advance warning when these letters are going to be read.
is the watchtower getting better at hiding these letters?.
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Jan 2014 WT study - more vomit
by EndofMysteries inarticles such at "100 years of kingdom rule" in which jehovah has 'in a sense' begun ruling as king, and jesus in a sense was made king.
even though the kingdom hasn't actually come.
it's not clear if the 1,000 year reign has began or not, if so only 900 years left of jesus rule?
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anonymouz
It appears they are reinforcing the 1914 connection to 2014 for psychollogical purposes to be used soon.
They want to make the final coup and Bethel desolation of 2014 look like it is prophecy is what I think they are up to, with little mental reminders. That way the "big event" that may very well include NY's former Bethel location, be the context of an engineered Bethel deconstruction (organizationally).
And they can sell it off to JWs as "prophecy fulfilling", in a convenient centennial cycle of 1914-2014, in the way they want to steer the downfall over a few years as the "big event" turns to also national financial intrgues at global scale. ANd during the actual engineered attacks from Bethel internal aid, they can cover up the whole Bethel destruction as "prophecy brothers!" it's Christ coming!!!!
But Armageddon will not arrive. Only Bethel's desolations globally.
Brilliant! JWs will believe it for a while. Then a year will turn to 2, and 3... and Bethel will be bankrupted, and the inner coup will have fled the building with WT millions, leaving JWs to pick up the pieces, and try to figure out wat is really going on.
Just my opnion.
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OK - I've had it - My letter to the KH
by LisaRose inthe whole time i lived in colorado, i had the dubs come by once and leave a tract.
but since moving to california, they are at my door so often i asked them to put me on the "do not call" list.
this did not stop them, in fact i have asked four times, plus once i called the kingdom hall and left a message, they still come, the last time this past saturday.
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anonymouz
Considering the Bethel lawless record, the letter is actually short. It could have been 100 pages, and still not cover all the bases.
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OK - I've had it - My letter to the KH
by LisaRose inthe whole time i lived in colorado, i had the dubs come by once and leave a tract.
but since moving to california, they are at my door so often i asked them to put me on the "do not call" list.
this did not stop them, in fact i have asked four times, plus once i called the kingdom hall and left a message, they still come, the last time this past saturday.
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anonymouz
I think Bethel is the foretold final apostasy. So do not consider yourself "apostate", the Bethel Pharisees obviously fulfill:
(2 Peter 2:1-3) However, there also came to be false prophets among the people, as there will also be false teachers among you. These very ones will quietly bring in destructive sects and will disown even the owner that bought them, bringing speedy destruction upon themselves. 2 Furthermore, many will follow their acts of loose conduct, and on account of these the way of the truth will be spoken of abusively. 3 Also, with covetousness they will exploit you with counterfeit words. But as for them, the judgment from of old is not moving slowly, and the destruction of them is not slumbering.
And as it states, Bethel will be judged as all of us will be as well, but Bethel's judgment comes first for all to see and benefit from:
(1 Peter 4:17) For it is the appointed time for the judgment to start with the house of God.
The benefit is no one reproaches God's name as actually Bethel are the lead befoulers (Zech3:1-3). So God's judgment on Bethel will be clear enough for those paying attention for some justice to know God WILL clear His name of Bethel's lawless behavior in now a solid 37 years of "Governing Body" rulership.
Everything went down hill in a more severely negative trended manner once those Popes took over Bethel. They are not going escape judgment anymore than their Papal fathers.
Be patient. A judgment is obviously required and should be honestly realized by all JWs. Bethel has wandered far from true Christianity, and for the very same reasons as Israel and Christians after Christ. Love of money, power, and self-righteousness equal blindness, sins and judgment.
It is wat it is. Bethel merely leads JWs to repeat a well worn pattern of corruptions that ALWAYS precedes the judgment, and is always made self evident.
(1 Timothy 5:24-25) The sins of some men are publicly manifest, leading directly to judgment, but as for other men [their sins] also become manifest later. 25 In the same way also the fine works are publicly manifest and those that are otherwise cannot be kept hid.
Bethel cannot escape the obvious, it is a pattern they fit like the former religious entities preceding a known divine period of judgment. One cannot leave God and Christ because Bethel has, and reproaches God and truth. Bethel's apostsy made evident fully is actually good news. It means the judgment will proceed soon. (2Thess2:1-4).
It means Bethel desolations will be a signal event well before the actual final judgment of God. Bethel judgment will be the wake up call Christ warns of. (Matt25:1-13). God will provide enough time to cleanse His name fully. (Mal3:1-5; Zech3:1-5).
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Old Jws view on old Societys books
by Decided ini was asked to come by and get some old pictures and stuff that my cousin who died left with her non jw husband.
he had two boxes of old pictures my aunt had left to her daughter(my cousin who died after her).
i went by another cousin who is still a jw and left the boxes of stuff that my aunt and cousin left when they died.
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anonymouz
Yes, save the old stuff, Bethel is systematically removing everything prior to 2000, literally destroying the literature as much as possible and it will accelerate soon. Pretty soon I hear they may be liquidating the KH libraries. And what they cannot finish is pegged for a continuation by means external to the internal Bethel system. And that is worldwide. As you know everything after 2000 is not JW foundational teachings, and more change is due, and a little faster than gradual.
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Stands For True Worship. I am turning myself in......
by DATA-DOG injust answer this question in an honest and unbiased way, free from any circuitous reasoning or speculation.
if you do so, i swear to my heavenly father, that i will call the elders tonight and turn myself in.
any active jw may answer this question.
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anonymouz
He is right at Bethel "in the temple" for those really paying attention. He already has publicly shown himself as the pinnacle FDS above all others on earth, and plays God by judging himself as FDS even before a divine judgment of God and Christ actually makes the FDS designation.
It is all hidden in plain sight at Bethel. ALL of it now. Bethel is not just going to come out and say "hey y'all, WE are the evil slave!!!!", nor is the GB going to set a convention theme "hey everyone! WE are the man of lawlessness!".
They say it in other explicit, but hard to accept ways. e.g. UN NGO....
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Jesus Christ is King even before 1914 so Why the Need to...
by ProfCNJ ingood morning folks!
i have believed in the 1914 jw core teaching for more than 20 years.
but now, after seeing much about this date, i find it uncomfortable and odd to believe it unquestionably, much less defend it against opposing thoughts.
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anonymouz
David was anointed as King long before he was actually crowned. Same principle. The "crown" of the "woman" of Rev12:1 is not a Messianic Kingdom Kingship. But it is a Kingship.
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In general, the people on this forum have a poor outlook spiritually speaking.
by Stand for Pure Worship inso i waz reading the august 15 wt study article, elisha saw fiery chariots, do you?
and it made me think about this forum.
if you remember, syria was hunting god's prophet, elisha.
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anonymouz
The source of JWN, and other sites, is the Bethel and GB "evil slave" activities. If that apostasy was not present at Bethel, this site would have no one to say anything. Bethel is the main source of all "operation of error" in JWs modern ministry, reputation and record and most of it is all under the GB "additional body" tenure since 1976. They say one thing, but do another. What they do not say is what is most damaging to Christian truth.
And that should tell a person something.
Most of the millions upon millions worldwide stumbled by Bethel lawlessness are on the Bethel and GB bloodguilt tally first. Bethel, the GB and WTS elites are the primary source of unadjusted error and guilt. Now it is brazen, just covered up by plausible "smooth words", pretty pictures and fancy clothes with fake grins. It is all just like Jerusalem's Pharisees, every earmark is present in modern JWs prior to a known judgment.
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Are ANY Of The 20th Century Bible Prophecies Taught By JWs Still Believed In?
by minimus inremember all those book studies that we had to understand, that dealt with prophecy as expounded by fred franz??.
are any of them still accepted as "truth"?.
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anonymouz
Ahhh, but they did dig up Fred Franz' bones and burned them and flushed the ashes down the toilet. No joke. They wanted no possibility of an exhumation and autopsy as well. Rutherford, Knorr and Franz were all given a form of the "isotope treatment". They were all radioactive.
And their bodies and bones are all gone now. (Half-life concerns for trace amounts). Just to be safe. (and there are others).
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Are ANY Of The 20th Century Bible Prophecies Taught By JWs Still Believed In?
by minimus inremember all those book studies that we had to understand, that dealt with prophecy as expounded by fred franz??.
are any of them still accepted as "truth"?.
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anonymouz
Yes it is true, all elders I have ever known were the Bible dumbest guys I ever spoke to among JWs, and none of them read legacy material other than the book study. And their Bible comprehension was severly limited and robotic, like an employee manual. And no doubt all the busy work they are involved in, has added to their stunted spiritual development.
Most JWs are in the same mental boat, just drifting comatose to the Niagara Fall.
But I will say certain JWs new it all in great detail, they were very rare, and I imagine now they are questioning if the GB is not actually the "evil slave" with this last decade of JW overhaul of EVERYTHING in the religion.