Posts by anonymouz

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All JW Elders World Wide...A Call To Action!

by bjc2read in

this just posted on a jw reform board at this link:.

http://meletivivlon.com/2013/10/13/remember-those-who-instructed-you/#comment-4950.

see acts 20:26-28.. if we do not speak out now, at this time, then no elder in any body of elders from around the world, will be able to repeat the words of paul, with a clear conscience.

anonymouz

If there was really a governing body at Acts 15:1-33, which there was not, and if the GB was not an "add on" "body" now naturally "set in opposition" to and elevating itself over "the body of the Christ", this is how burden free the actual decision of James, from the apostles convened at that time, with NO "governing body" present, but everyone, including "the congreagtion" as a whole, would be:

(Acts 15:19-20) Hence my decision is not to trouble those from the nations who are turning to God, 20 but to write them to abstain from things polluted by idols and from fornication and from what is strangled and from blood.

But instead at temple inspection NOW, we have Bethel befouling all JWs:

(Zechariah 3:1-3) And he proceeded to show me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of Jehovah, and Satan standing at his right hand in order to resist him. 2 Then [the angel of] Jehovah said to Satan: “Jehovah rebuke you, O Satan, yes, Jehovah rebuke you, he who is choosing Jerusalem! Is this one not a log snatched out of the fire?” 3 Now as for Joshua, he happened to be clothed in befouled garments and standing before the angel.

And PLAIN AS DAY lifting themselves over everyone as FDS:

(2 Thessalonians 2:3-4) Let no one seduce you in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction. 4 He is set in opposition and lifts himself up over everyone

And "it" in the above starts with a judgment of JWs:

(1 Peter 4:17) For it is the appointed time for the judgment to start with the house of God.

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So human efforts are not needed for what can only be removed by God in his own due time by Bethel's desolation (Dan8:13-14):

(Matthew 24:15-16) “Therefore, when you catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation (UN NGO), as spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in a holy place, (let the reader use discernment,) 16 then let those in Judea begin fleeing to the mountains.

Bethel is going down, and as they do so they want to take JWs with them:

The [8th King] Watchtower 11/15/2013 statement:

Watchtower quote:

“”Elders who are reading this article can draw some useful conclusions from the account we have just considered:…
[And inserted into the admonishment:]

(3) At that time, the lifesaving direction that we receive from Jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint. All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not. “”

I would say, as Jesus said, it is time to FLEE the JW org until God is done with them, and it will be a massive event that will go one a couple years. (Dan8:13-14; Hos6:1-3)

The JW system is now the UN NGO deathtrap.

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4 Letters from the Branch read tonight, no warning from this site

by James Jackson in

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friends

tonight at our meeting we had 4 letters from "the branch" read at our meeting.

i was caught off guard since we usually have an advance warning when these letters are going to be read.

is the watchtower getting better at hiding these letters?.

anonymouz

What about letter 5?

5. Brothers "at that time" of the "Assyrian attack" please follow your elders to the nearest "life saving" FEMA internment camp.

(WT 11/15/2013; pg. 20, par. 17)

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Jan 2014 WT study - more vomit

by EndofMysteries in

articles such at "100 years of kingdom rule" in which jehovah has 'in a sense' begun ruling as king, and jesus in a sense was made king.

even though the kingdom hasn't actually come.

it's not clear if the 1,000 year reign has began or not, if so only 900 years left of jesus rule?

anonymouz

It appears they are reinforcing the 1914 connection to 2014 for psychollogical purposes to be used soon.

They want to make the final coup and Bethel desolation of 2014 look like it is prophecy is what I think they are up to, with little mental reminders. That way the "big event" that may very well include NY's former Bethel location, be the context of an engineered Bethel deconstruction (organizationally).

And they can sell it off to JWs as "prophecy fulfilling", in a convenient centennial cycle of 1914-2014, in the way they want to steer the downfall over a few years as the "big event" turns to also national financial intrgues at global scale. ANd during the actual engineered attacks from Bethel internal aid, they can cover up the whole Bethel destruction as "prophecy brothers!" it's Christ coming!!!!

But Armageddon will not arrive. Only Bethel's desolations globally.

Brilliant! JWs will believe it for a while. Then a year will turn to 2, and 3... and Bethel will be bankrupted, and the inner coup will have fled the building with WT millions, leaving JWs to pick up the pieces, and try to figure out wat is really going on.

Just my opnion.

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OK - I've had it - My letter to the KH

by LisaRose in

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friends

the whole time i lived in colorado, i had the dubs come by once and leave a tract.

but since moving to california, they are at my door so often i asked them to put me on the "do not call" list.

this did not stop them, in fact i have asked four times, plus once i called the kingdom hall and left a message, they still come, the last time this past saturday.

anonymouz

Considering the Bethel lawless record, the letter is actually short. It could have been 100 pages, and still not cover all the bases.

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OK - I've had it - My letter to the KH

by LisaRose in

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friends

the whole time i lived in colorado, i had the dubs come by once and leave a tract.

but since moving to california, they are at my door so often i asked them to put me on the "do not call" list.

this did not stop them, in fact i have asked four times, plus once i called the kingdom hall and left a message, they still come, the last time this past saturday.

anonymouz

I think Bethel is the foretold final apostasy. So do not consider yourself "apostate", the Bethel Pharisees obviously fulfill:

(2 Peter 2:1-3) However, there also came to be false prophets among the people, as there will also be false teachers among you. These very ones will quietly bring in destructive sects and will disown even the owner that bought them, bringing speedy destruction upon themselves. 2 Furthermore, many will follow their acts of loose conduct, and on account of these the way of the truth will be spoken of abusively. 3 Also, with covetousness they will exploit you with counterfeit words. But as for them, the judgment from of old is not moving slowly, and the destruction of them is not slumbering.

And as it states, Bethel will be judged as all of us will be as well, but Bethel's judgment comes first for all to see and benefit from:

(1 Peter 4:17) For it is the appointed time for the judgment to start with the house of God.

The benefit is no one reproaches God's name as actually Bethel are the lead befoulers (Zech3:1-3). So God's judgment on Bethel will be clear enough for those paying attention for some justice to know God WILL clear His name of Bethel's lawless behavior in now a solid 37 years of "Governing Body" rulership.

Everything went down hill in a more severely negative trended manner once those Popes took over Bethel. They are not going escape judgment anymore than their Papal fathers.

Be patient. A judgment is obviously required and should be honestly realized by all JWs. Bethel has wandered far from true Christianity, and for the very same reasons as Israel and Christians after Christ. Love of money, power, and self-righteousness equal blindness, sins and judgment.

It is wat it is. Bethel merely leads JWs to repeat a well worn pattern of corruptions that ALWAYS precedes the judgment, and is always made self evident.

(1 Timothy 5:24-25) The sins of some men are publicly manifest, leading directly to judgment, but as for other men [their sins] also become manifest later. 25 In the same way also the fine works are publicly manifest and those that are otherwise cannot be kept hid.

Bethel cannot escape the obvious, it is a pattern they fit like the former religious entities preceding a known divine period of judgment. One cannot leave God and Christ because Bethel has, and reproaches God and truth. Bethel's apostsy made evident fully is actually good news. It means the judgment will proceed soon. (2Thess2:1-4).

It means Bethel desolations will be a signal event well before the actual final judgment of God. Bethel judgment will be the wake up call Christ warns of. (Matt25:1-13). God will provide enough time to cleanse His name fully. (Mal3:1-5; Zech3:1-5).

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Old Jws view on old Societys books

by Decided in

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i was asked to come by and get some old pictures and stuff that my cousin who died left with her non jw husband.

he had two boxes of old pictures my aunt had left to her daughter(my cousin who died after her).

i went by another cousin who is still a jw and left the boxes of stuff that my aunt and cousin left when they died.

anonymouz

Yes, save the old stuff, Bethel is systematically removing everything prior to 2000, literally destroying the literature as much as possible and it will accelerate soon. Pretty soon I hear they may be liquidating the KH libraries. And what they cannot finish is pegged for a continuation by means external to the internal Bethel system. And that is worldwide. As you know everything after 2000 is not JW foundational teachings, and more change is due, and a little faster than gradual.

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Stands For True Worship. I am turning myself in......

by DATA-DOG in

just answer this question in an honest and unbiased way, free from any circuitous reasoning or speculation.

if you do so, i swear to my heavenly father, that i will call the elders tonight and turn myself in.

any active jw may answer this question.

anonymouz

He is right at Bethel "in the temple" for those really paying attention. He already has publicly shown himself as the pinnacle FDS above all others on earth, and plays God by judging himself as FDS even before a divine judgment of God and Christ actually makes the FDS designation.

It is all hidden in plain sight at Bethel. ALL of it now. Bethel is not just going to come out and say "hey y'all, WE are the evil slave!!!!", nor is the GB going to set a convention theme "hey everyone! WE are the man of lawlessness!".

They say it in other explicit, but hard to accept ways. e.g. UN NGO....

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Jesus Christ is King even before 1914 so Why the Need to...

by ProfCNJ in

good morning folks!

i have believed in the 1914 jw core teaching for more than 20 years.

but now, after seeing much about this date, i find it uncomfortable and odd to believe it unquestionably, much less defend it against opposing thoughts.

anonymouz

David was anointed as King long before he was actually crowned. Same principle. The "crown" of the "woman" of Rev12:1 is not a Messianic Kingdom Kingship. But it is a Kingship.

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In general, the people on this forum have a poor outlook spiritually speaking.

by Stand for Pure Worship in

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so i waz reading the august 15 wt study article, elisha saw fiery chariots, do you?

and it made me think about this forum.

if you remember, syria was hunting god's prophet, elisha.

anonymouz

The source of JWN, and other sites, is the Bethel and GB "evil slave" activities. If that apostasy was not present at Bethel, this site would have no one to say anything. Bethel is the main source of all "operation of error" in JWs modern ministry, reputation and record and most of it is all under the GB "additional body" tenure since 1976. They say one thing, but do another. What they do not say is what is most damaging to Christian truth.

And that should tell a person something.

Most of the millions upon millions worldwide stumbled by Bethel lawlessness are on the Bethel and GB bloodguilt tally first. Bethel, the GB and WTS elites are the primary source of unadjusted error and guilt. Now it is brazen, just covered up by plausible "smooth words", pretty pictures and fancy clothes with fake grins. It is all just like Jerusalem's Pharisees, every earmark is present in modern JWs prior to a known judgment.

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Are ANY Of The 20th Century Bible Prophecies Taught By JWs Still Believed In?

by minimus in

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remember all those book studies that we had to understand, that dealt with prophecy as expounded by fred franz??.

are any of them still accepted as "truth"?.

anonymouz

Ahhh, but they did dig up Fred Franz' bones and burned them and flushed the ashes down the toilet. No joke. They wanted no possibility of an exhumation and autopsy as well. Rutherford, Knorr and Franz were all given a form of the "isotope treatment". They were all radioactive.

And their bodies and bones are all gone now. (Half-life concerns for trace amounts). Just to be safe. (and there are others).