Posts by sosoconfused

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The July 15 Watchtower and all its new light is only...

by sosoconfused in

making people cling to the organization more.

when i found out it was up i told so many people frantically that there is a new study article up and that it had so many changes.

my mother started crying saying how happy she is to be a part of an organization that is truly directed by jehovah... only the true faithful and discreeet slave could have such insight.... another person began to say how great it is to see the celestial chariot on the move.. .

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I hear you bro...

my wife is crying now because she thinks that Jehovah is going to kill her.

I am done... I never want to even speak to witnesses again because they are like the most brainwashed nutjobs EVER. I was one so I know.

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The July 15 Watchtower and all its new light is only...

by sosoconfused in

making people cling to the organization more.

when i found out it was up i told so many people frantically that there is a new study article up and that it had so many changes.

my mother started crying saying how happy she is to be a part of an organization that is truly directed by jehovah... only the true faithful and discreeet slave could have such insight.... another person began to say how great it is to see the celestial chariot on the move.. .

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making people cling to the organization more. When I found out it was up I told so many people frantically that there is a new study article up and that it had so many changes.

My mother started crying saying how happy she is to be a part of an organization that is truly directed by Jehovah... only the true faithful and discreeet slave could have such insight...

ANother person began to say how great it is to see the celestial chariot on the move.

After the 4th person came with a similar response I went outside and literally just screamed....

Then I realized these people have brainwashed themselves to accept anything that is said because they are poor / uneducated and childless based on the lies they already followed so they might as wel continue to believe the lie because it is too late to make a better life for themselves.

SUCH A FRIGGIN SHAME

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You CAN continue associating with wordly/disfellowshipped family members AND get a higher education

by Anony Mous in

quotes:.

-- therefore, explain that a parent's decision an a child's associates would not be based on religion, but on the young one's conduct ... it will probably help if you acknowledge that this does not mean that all other youths whom your children are around in the neighborhood or at school are no good.

some of them may be pleasant and decent, as some of your neighbors, relatives, and workmates are.

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Does anyone have a link to this document PLEEEEASE

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How can anyone who is truly spiritual-minded attend Bethel and not realize it's all a scam

by sosoconfused in

not that i was any better(lol - but as i sat back and thought about the time i spent there, and the things i saw i feel disgusted.. i could literally write a thousand stories about the discrimination, favortism and all out dishonest that took place but i doubt anyone would actually care.

the one thing however that really sticks out in my mind is when i was in a nice room with my roommate that he kind of inherited after his previous roommate left.

it actually had a bathroom and we both had space for real beds(not those dang trundle beds like we had in standish).. .

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@LostGeneration

I had no choice but to go to bethel...

I was told prior to graduation I could not go to college

I was also told that if I wasnt going to pioneer I had to leave home upon graduation

I was also told if I did pioneer I could stay at home rent free.

So what choice did I have but to pioneer.

With only a highschool education in Newark New Jersey what options did I have. I began to pioneer and hated field service so bad that I figured if I went to Bethel I would have 3 squares for the rest of my life... I got there and experienced the most discrimination ever and realized this was all a big pile of poopie

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How can anyone who is truly spiritual-minded attend Bethel and not realize it's all a scam

by sosoconfused in

not that i was any better(lol - but as i sat back and thought about the time i spent there, and the things i saw i feel disgusted.. i could literally write a thousand stories about the discrimination, favortism and all out dishonest that took place but i doubt anyone would actually care.

the one thing however that really sticks out in my mind is when i was in a nice room with my roommate that he kind of inherited after his previous roommate left.

it actually had a bathroom and we both had space for real beds(not those dang trundle beds like we had in standish).. .

sosoconfused

Agreed...

I just cant believe my level of stupidity.

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How can anyone who is truly spiritual-minded attend Bethel and not realize it's all a scam

by sosoconfused in

not that i was any better(lol - but as i sat back and thought about the time i spent there, and the things i saw i feel disgusted.. i could literally write a thousand stories about the discrimination, favortism and all out dishonest that took place but i doubt anyone would actually care.

the one thing however that really sticks out in my mind is when i was in a nice room with my roommate that he kind of inherited after his previous roommate left.

it actually had a bathroom and we both had space for real beds(not those dang trundle beds like we had in standish).. .

sosoconfused

Not that I was any better(lol - but as I sat back and thought about the time I spent there, and the things I saw I feel disgusted.

I could literally write a thousand stories about the discrimination, favortism and all out dishonest that took place but I doubt anyone would actually care. The one thing however that really sticks out in my mind is when I was in a nice room with my roommate that he kind of inherited after his previous roommate left. It actually had a bathroom and we both had space for real beds(Not those dang trundle beds like we had in Standish).

Anyway after about 3 weeks we get a knock at the door being told to open up so that this punk and his wife could view our room. Our room was up for bid and since neither of us had the years to keep it we would be moving because apparently we did not deserve to have any space because we had not pioneered very long. This process made me sick to my stomach. They walked around and moved our things like we were animals in a zoo - and they never acknowledgedwe were even there.

This happened with like two other couples as well. My room mate saw my anger and he laughed and said to me, "I cant wait till I am "HEAVY" like that and I can kick someone out of their room!" First off that term heavy makes me want to kick someone in the teeth. Anyone who has been to Bethel knows what I mean. Anyway, I thought how screwed up it must be that they foster this type of behavior like it is really o.k.

Later on I come to find out that most of the GB have rooms that were either specifically designed as in they had walls knocked out of like 4 or 5 normal rooms or that they had entire floors. Not sure how true the "ENTIRE FLOOR" story is but I would not doubt it.

Needless to say I have hundreds of stories I could talk about like this and worse to demonstrate that things at "GODS HOUSE" are worse than worldly standards... but typical JDUBS just think its OK.

What a crock of crap to really figure this out so late in life...

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New light Watchtower magazine leaked from organization weeks ahead of general release

by cedars in

http://jwsurvey.org/governing-body-2/new-light-watchtower-magazine-leaked-from-organization-weeks-ahead-of-general-release.

if doctrinal explanations are missing from the article, it is because they are also missing from the magazine.. i would like to give my thanks again to my source for supplying me with the magazine article weeks ahead of its scheduled release.

it showed remarkable courage, because risks were taken.

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I am thankful you posted this info... extremely.

But it pains me to think that people in this org... smart people I use to know are going to read these changes and not realize that this invalidates everything they have believed for so l9ong.

It even makes current some teachings invalid. I think the watchtower realizes that mens memories are short and that in a 5 year span new light is pretty much considered doctrine that has always existed - so to build on it is no big deal.

Not to mention that jesus is apparently doing an awful lot during armageddon.

The first question I would now ask is since all teaching prior to 1914 was not from the slave since there was no slave - then how can they possibly hold on to the 1914 date any longer since supposedly they saw this date in advance of Jesus appointed a slave. Would this mean that individuals not inspired or directed by Jehovah foresaw these things before his appointed slave did????

WTH is going on

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Quick Question regarding faithful slave and apostle

by sosoconfused in

since we have a new understanding of the faithful and discreet slave not appearing until 1919, and in turn no one giving the proper food at the proper time... does this wipe out the validity of the gospel accounts and all the rest of the greek scriptures?.

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i know i am missing out on something here, but is this the line of reasoning that one can gather from this latest announcement?.

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Since we have a new understanding of the faithful and discreet slave not appearing until 1919, and in turn no one giving the proper food at the proper time... does this wipe out the validity of the gospel accounts and all the rest of the Greek scriptures?

I know I am missing out on something here, but is this the line of reasoning that one can gather from this latest announcement?

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Your most DISTURBING WATCHTOWER Bethel/Branch experience? (No full names please)

by Balaamsass in

ok.. you 70 plus bethelite members.... this is your chance to share stories!

inquiring minds want to know !no full names please..follow t.o.s.

to avoid borg libel lawsuits).. i will start the ball rolling with week one.

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Sure was Apog, i wonder if there is anyone here during that time period that remembers him.

It was around the same time that we had an announcement at morning worship asking the brothers who refused to flush the toilets on the 4th floor of 124 to step up and admit that they were doing it. ROFL

For some reason all of the brothers on the 4th floor or 6th floor... can't remember right now - would take craps in the communal bathroom and no one would flush the toilet. So it would just pile up and then the brother who had to clean it would have the job of I guess unclogging it all.

Crazy times

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Your most DISTURBING WATCHTOWER Bethel/Branch experience? (No full names please)

by Balaamsass in

ok.. you 70 plus bethelite members.... this is your chance to share stories!

inquiring minds want to know !no full names please..follow t.o.s.

to avoid borg libel lawsuits).. i will start the ball rolling with week one.

sosoconfused

I remember back in 1998 or so When I was in ther ewas this guy named Bobby from Texas I believe. Before coming to Bethel he had a very good job at a Huge technology company. He had the nicest suits and was just an overall cool guy. However after his first 3 months he stopped hanging out with us and started hanging out with the "sister" he met in his new hall.

This girl was HOT! I mean HOOOOOOOT. However one day while I was working the 107 desk she came in at close to 11 at night asking for him. She was dressed in a rather scandolous fashion and she looked very upset. I called him and said your "friend is here bobby!" and I laughed thinking it wasn serious.

When he came down from his room he grabbed her by the arm and went outside with her and like 10 minutes later he came back in crying and acting wierd. So I didn't say anything to him. Three days later while I was walking on the second floor of the 25 building I looked down into the atrium and there was Bobby sitting amongst 3 brothers in the lobby crying like a baby and holding his head in his hands. I thought someone in his family died or something - but i just kept moving and figured I would check on him later. Weeeeeeeeeelllllll the following day right after morning worship he was standing outside the 25 building with his suitcases and bags...

He told me that the girl was a prostitute and that he had been having sex with her repeatedly for like 4 months. He decided that he had to come forward and say something because she said she would keep coming by his place asking for him if he didn't pay more! I couldn't believe it.

Needless to say I never heard from him again