Does the Watchtower and the JWs even understand the implications of their "resurrection" doctrine?
Posts by VM44
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Resurrection without a soul that survives death.
by Pronger1 inone thing (among many) that always bothered me about jw teachings is what happens to the soul when we die.
sure god could be capable of creating a body and implanting it with all of our life experiences an memories.
but how would not be a just a clone instead of being actually us?
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Resurrection without a soul that survives death.
by Pronger1 inone thing (among many) that always bothered me about jw teachings is what happens to the soul when we die.
sure god could be capable of creating a body and implanting it with all of our life experiences an memories.
but how would not be a just a clone instead of being actually us?
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VM44
Here is an illustration to consider.
Suppose I had an expensive Ming vase, and that I was able to scan it completely to the smallest detail and store the "memory scan" in a computer.
Then one day, the Ming vase falls off the shelf and smashes into a million pieces, impossible to put together again.
I take the "memory scan" copy and put load it into a "replicator" machine that is able to create a vase to the smallest detail from the memory scan.
Now, here is the question, is the Ming vase that was created from the memory copy the same as the original Ming vase?
Wouuld it be legal for me to sell the "created" Ming vase as the "original"?
What happense if I were to make several idential Ming vases from the memory scan?
Where is the original Ming vase in comparision to these newly created ones? What is the connection between the old and the new?
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The Society recommended a book written by a demon-inspired woman
by The Quiet One inhttp://www.seanet.com/~raines/review.html.
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VM44
The Watchtower edited the original work so as to match their beliefs at the time.
The result was the book "Angels and Women" which is available online at:
https://archive.org/details/AngelsAndWomen
Description:
Angels and Women (1924). This book is a revision of the book Seola by Mrs. J.G. Smith. According to The Golden Age magazine (Oct. 27, 1924 p. 35 and Golden Age, July 30, 1924 p. 702), published by the Watchtower Society (Jehovah's Witnesses), Seola was revised at the suggestion of Charles Taze Russell and published as this volume. Editions of the book at the headquarters of the Watchtower Society (Bethel library) state: "Introduction by J.F.R. [Joseph F. Rutherford]. Appendix by C.J.W. [Clayton J. Woodworth]. Written by a brother had been long in the service, was incapacitated, and sought to provide for himself by thus "indirectly" presenting some valuable information. Not altogether up to date, as "Angels" booklet and other information supplements and revises what this work contains."
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Quote of the day, RE: YB 2014
by pixel in"your web site is one of the best gifts that jehovah has given to people like me.n.f., sri lanka.. so, jehovah waited how many years until he could come out with a website as a gift?.
"caleb, the little boy in the jw.org video series become jehovahs friend, is now known all over the world".
maybe he is more famous than mickey mouse?.
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BOE letter: New lights new changes
by pixel inre: adjustments to draw close to jehovah.
dear brothers:.
some changes involving our understanding of the meaning of gods name and what it re p- resents have been made to the first chapter of draw close to jehovah.
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VM44
"Some changes involving our understanding of the meaning of God’s name and what it represents have been made to the first chapter of Draw Close to Jehovah."
What changes in their understanding of God's name and what it repreents?
The Watchtower understands God's name to be JEHOVAH (YHWH).
God's name, Jehovah, represents the creator of all things.
How can The Watchotwer's understanding change from that?
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The Chinese Have Asked The USA Bethelites For Help With Their Computers And The Brothers Helped Them Out And Then Asked For A Favor!
by minimus inthey society wanted these people in china to put a good word for them to legalize the work in the communist land.
the officials said, they just couldn't get the officials to do that but would put a good word for them anyway.. the sh*t these people dream up!.
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VM44
Do the Bethelites possess special knowledge of computers?
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The Chinese Have Asked The USA Bethelites For Help With Their Computers And The Brothers Helped Them Out And Then Asked For A Favor!
by minimus inthey society wanted these people in china to put a good word for them to legalize the work in the communist land.
the officials said, they just couldn't get the officials to do that but would put a good word for them anyway.. the sh*t these people dream up!.
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VM44
China wants Microsoft to extend Windows XP support past April 8th
Data from StatCounter shows that Windows XP is still used by over 50 percent of all PCs in China.
In just over four months, Microsoft is scheduled to stop supporting Windows XP after over 12 years. Now it appears the government of China would like for the company to reconsider its support cut off date of April 8th.
In a report on the Chinese language TechWeb site, Yan Xiaohong, deputy director of China’s National Copyright Administration, is quoted as saying that the shut down of Windows XP support could lead to more security threats and increased use of pirated software. He stated, "These practices affect the smooth operations of genuine software in China."
The translated article does not make clear if the government of China has sent a formal request to Microsoft to extend the life of Windows XP. In November, Microsoft cut the price of Windows 8 in China down to the equivalent of just $49 for a limited time, in order to encourage PC users in that country to upgrade to the new OS.
According to data from StatCounter, over half of China's PCs still use Windows XP. Windows 7 is used by about a third of PCs in that country but Microsoft no longer sells a version of that OS in China. -
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The 1914 war in heaven was first announced in 1925
by Doug Mason inin its issue of march 1, 1925, the watch tower published the leading article entitled the birth of the nation which was the first announcement that there had been war in heaven after the gentile times ended in 1914 and that the devil and his angels had been cast down to our earth.
but this was further called attention to later in the article the king in action in the issue of september 15, 1925. this ousting of the devil and his angels from heaven had its effect upon the wild beast and its kingdom here on earth.
all this was forcefully presented in the book entitled deliverance, which was released on friday, may 28, 1926, at the international convention in london, england, after the conventioners adopted a resolution entitled a testimony to the rulers of the world.
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VM44
I have never understood why was there even a War in Heaven at all?
Is not Jehovah all powerful?
By simply speaking a command, He could have banished Satan and the demons to the vicinity of the earth!
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VM44
I think that woman was just someone having their picture taken with David Splane.
It is a good close up, you can see the bumps and wrinkles on his forehead!
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DEC 2013 WT Article - Slave for Jehovah - warning: ranting ahead
by ohnightdivine inthis morning's wt study almost made me vomit, stand up, pick up my bag and rush to the door.. of course it never happened.
instead, i was able to make some nice drawings on my tablet and notepad.. if you replace the name jehovah with watchtower, or the governing 8 men, it would really make sense.. what's up with all that nonstop guilt-mongering about education and having a decent job?!.
most people look down on the uneducated, and i remember, when i didn't have a job, nobody cared!.
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VM44
For some reason I cannot find the article.
Could someone point me to the exact issue?
I am curious in what light The Watchtower is putting on the use of powerpoint presentations.
Edited to add: Found it. The October 15, 2013 issue.