Posts by VM44

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copy of July 8th Awake

by jwgirlfriend in

does anyone happen to have a copy of the july 8, 2004 awake?

i heard there is information in their regarding changed views on celebrations.

i would really like to read that article.

They observed the 100th anniversity of the formation of the Watchtower Corporation! Had special talks and printed a brochure which is included on the latest WT CD. They go over the history and accomplishments of the WT over the last 100 years.

A Corporation is a legal entity, equivalent to an individual from a legal viewpoint!

So they observed the 100th BIRTHDAY of the WATCHTOWER CORPORATION!

What would be the difference if they observed the 100th birthday of an person?

NONE AT ALL!

All Attention is to be given to their ORGANISATION! none at all to individuals!

Another CULT attribute that they do not like to admit!

--VM44

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A Giant for Jehovah, Judge Rutherford

by VM44 in

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e. j. melton?s history of cooper county, missouri

chapter 43

cooper county's illustrious hall of fame

VM44

This is becoming more and more interesting.

So, it does indeed look like Rutherford was in California, and came back to take over the Watchtower after Russell died.

If only Russell could have held on a few more years, Rutherford might have stayed in California, no "Finished Mystery" book would have been written, no name change to "Jehovah's Witnesses", and so on!

Everything would have been different!

--VM44

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A Giant for Jehovah, Judge Rutherford

by VM44 in

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e. j. melton?s history of cooper county, missouri

chapter 43

cooper county's illustrious hall of fame

VM44

RR has said Rutherford was dismissed from Bethel. Here is the reference:

Joseph Franklin Rutherford (1861-1942): Came from a large Calvinist family; formerly a small-town lawyer in Missouri; at least once appointed to serve as judge in a case; politically active in Democratic politics. Custodian of Pastor Russell?s last will and testament. Apparently dismissed from Bethel in early 1915, lived in Monrovia near Los Angeles and worked as a lawyer for a department store in Los Angeles. Forceful in disposition and persuasive. Debated Rev. John H. Troy at First Baptist Church in Glendale, California, April 21-24, 1915.

http://www.heraldmag.org/04history_6.htm

--VM44

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A Giant for Jehovah, Judge Rutherford

by VM44 in

jw
friends

e. j. melton?s history of cooper county, missouri

chapter 43

cooper county's illustrious hall of fame

VM44

"A Giant for Jehovah"....well, Rutherford was over 6 foot 4 inches in height!

"...and served as special judge in important cases" ???!!!

Did this author really know this? or, more likely, was that information provided by someone else? like, perhaps, Rutherford himself?

Does anyone know what cases were presented to Rutherford when he was on the bench? I have read that on some days he heard NO cases at all!

--VM44

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Public Meeting Talk Titles - Listed by Subject.

by Blueblades in

i have over 116 public talk outlines provided by the society.

the list of talk titles for outlines provided by the society is arranged by subject to help the elders more easily identify the public talk outlines that fall into a particular category.it is designed to be used with the s - 99 form.this is for congregation use only.. here are the public meeting talk titles listed by subject.. bible / god 10 different talks on this subject.. christian standards / qualities 14 different talks on this subject.

evangelizing / ministry 5 on this one.. faith / spirituality 13 on this one.

VM44

I want to get a copy of all the outlines!

Can they be scanned into PDF format?

--VM44

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A Giant for Jehovah, Judge Rutherford

by VM44 in

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e. j. melton?s history of cooper county, missouri

chapter 43

cooper county's illustrious hall of fame

VM44

E. J. Melton?s History of Cooper County, Missouri
CHAPTER 43
COOPER COUNTY'S ILLUSTRIOUS HALL OF FAME
Pages 228 ? 258
A Giant for Jehovah. JOSEPH F. RUTHERFORD, a native of Missouri and a Boonville lawyer who practiced in his home state 18 years, became a member of the New York Bar in 1910, and served as special judge in important cases. A close student of the Bible, he delivered a religious lecture in the Stephens Opera House, now the Lyric Theater, while still a resident of Boonville.
He is an independent, undenominational Christian, his only creed being the Bible. Since 1917, he has been president of the International Bible Students Association and of The Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, publishers of Jehovah's Witnesses, an important and world-wide Christian organization.
Judge Rutherford has written numerous Bible commentaries which have exceeded in circulation that of any other writer--more than 200 million, translated into 70 languages. A consistent broadcaster, he often uses 240 radio stations simultaneously to carry his messages instantly to practically all countries of the earth. His addresses also are reproduced on phonograph records.
Mrs. Rutherford is the former Miss Mary Fetzer, of Boonville. Her father, Dr. Fetzer, built business buildings in the Fetzer Block on Main street, Boonville. Judge and Mrs. Rutherford have one son, Malcolm.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocooper/Biographical/Melton_Chapter_43.htm

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WT Publications Online? The Word According To John

by VM44 in

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someone posted a link to a site that had some wt publications online.. i cannot find that post now, even though i used the google search.. in particular i wanted the "the word, who is he according to john".

does anyone know where that site is?.

VM44

Vallis, Thanks, that is indeed the website I was looking for.

Blondie, thank you for doing the book search. It might be worthwhile to order an actual copy of the booklet.

Leolaia, yep! this is that booklet. Here is booklet quoting Greber:

Similar is the reading by a former Roman Catholic priest: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god. This was with God in the beginning. Everything came into being through the Word, and without it nothing created sprang into existence." (John l:l-3)** (** The New Testament -A New Translation and Explanation Based on the Oldest Manuscripts, by Johannes Greber (a translation from German into English), edition of 1937, the front cover of this bound translation being stamped with a golden cross.)

"A New Translation and Explanation", yes, based upon "Spirit Voices"!

--VM44

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WT Publications Online? The Word According To John

by VM44 in

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someone posted a link to a site that had some wt publications online.. i cannot find that post now, even though i used the google search.. in particular i wanted the "the word, who is he according to john".

does anyone know where that site is?.

VM44

Someone posted a link to a site that had some WT publications online.

I cannot find that post now, even though I used the Google search.

In particular I wanted the "The Word, Who Is He According to John"

Does anyone know where that site is?

Thanks.

--VM44

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Rutherford's wife, why the info blackout?

by VM44 in

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rutherford ruled the watchtower organization from 1916 to 1942, traveled extensively, had several residences, most notably, beth sarim.

but absent always was his wife, mary, not to mention his son, malcolm as well.. ok, rutherford was so well known, why did no one inquire about his son and wife?.

when rutherford resided at beth sarim in san diego, why was his wife not there with him?

VM44

Hi amac,

Can you say where you got this information from?

The information is on the web, put "Rutherford Judge Four Days" into Google and you will get many results. I believe AlanF and Farkel have also posted about it here at JWD.

There is also a booklet reprinted you can get from Witness Inc. specifically on the topic of Rutherford's 4-Day judgeship:

#R13 JUDGE "FOR 4 DAYS" RUTHERFORD: Edward L. Curran (1940). Exposing the history of former Watchtower president and founder of the modern JWs, Joseph F. Rutherford. Was he really a "judge"? A look at the $-making Watchtower Society. Many strange biblical interpretations
analyzed. Much information on Rutherford's tactics of hate toward non-JWs. $1.95.

Witness Inc also has the "Rutherford Uncovered(Exposed)" booklet from which Leolaia, through Freeminds.org, obtained confirming information about Rutherford's family.

#R14 RUTHERFORD UNCOVERED: Richard Felix (1937). Felix lived in the same county in which J.F. Rutherford practiced law before becoming a Russellite. Rare details on Rutherford's law career and his family. Exposes Rutherford's illegal and unethical actions as a private attorney including
his twice being fined for contempt of court! Information on the infamous sedition trial (#286 Rutherford v. the U.S.). $1.95.

These booklets are listed in the Witness Inc online catalog at:

http://www.witnessinc.com/ordering%20materials.html

--VM44

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Rutherford's wife, why the info blackout?

by VM44 in

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friends

rutherford ruled the watchtower organization from 1916 to 1942, traveled extensively, had several residences, most notably, beth sarim.

but absent always was his wife, mary, not to mention his son, malcolm as well.. ok, rutherford was so well known, why did no one inquire about his son and wife?.

when rutherford resided at beth sarim in san diego, why was his wife not there with him?

VM44

Rutherford went to school to learn court stenography.

His training in law was obtained on the job working in a lawyer's office.

He became a lawyer by passing an oral exam given by a group of lawyers.

Later, Rutherford filled in for a judge total of four (4) days. Some days he filled in there wasn't even any cases. From that little experience he took on the title "Judge" which he used the rest of his life. (Does the word "Pompose" come to mind?)

It is interesting to see how the Watchtower now refers to Rutherford being called affectionately "Judge" while back then at the time he was living, the WT used the title extensively in promoting his lectures and books. ("Hear JUDGE RUTHERFORD Speak Tonight!")

Does anyone remember which poster here at JWD was writing the Rutherford biography?

--VM44