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Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie

by Farkel in

it was made by a women who in later years wore crotchless panties and bras which had holes in the nipple areas.

he not only knew the woman in question (she's now deceased), he has met her numerous times.

up until recently this secret of her year's long sexual affair with rutherford was kept by the family.

VM44

Hi Farkel,

Wow! That was fast! Where did you find the text from The Messenger? I had expected that there would be some trouble finding it, and here you posted it minutes after I made my posting!

Note this:

both being fully devoted to the Lord, and therefore are Jehovah?s witnesses.

Really, they were "both devoted to Rutherfod and the Watchtower Organization." I say that literally and not in jest.

Also, "and therefore are Jehovah's witnesses." was added to promote the new name "Jehovah's Witnesses" Rutherford had introduced that year, 1931.

--VM44

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Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie

by Farkel in

it was made by a women who in later years wore crotchless panties and bras which had holes in the nipple areas.

he not only knew the woman in question (she's now deceased), he has met her numerous times.

up until recently this secret of her year's long sexual affair with rutherford was kept by the family.

VM44

hi belbab,

you make an important observation

Has anyone considered that "little Bonnie" was called "Princess"?

It is obvious now that it was known, or made known in The Messenger, that the Balko's resided at the "House of Princes", Beth Sarim.

Perhaps the Balko's were merely the designated caretakers for Beth Sarim?

Again, getting a copy of The Messenger of July 30, 1931 might answer who the Balko's were and where they stood within the Watchtower organization.

Might be hard to find it though, anyone here have a copy of it?

--VM44

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Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie

by Farkel in

it was made by a women who in later years wore crotchless panties and bras which had holes in the nipple areas.

he not only knew the woman in question (she's now deceased), he has met her numerous times.

up until recently this secret of her year's long sexual affair with rutherford was kept by the family.

"I can confirm that their son was called Joseph Barak Balko, and must have been born in late 1930 or early 1931 as he is mentioned in The Messenger of July 30, 1931, published for the Columbus, Ohio convention of July, 1931. "

So this is one instance where Balko was mentioned in the publications.

It is indeed strange that a birth annoucement was made in a publication. Was it a for good publicity? or, as was asked, did the Balko's have some special relationship with the organization at that time?

Can anyone here provide the actual text about the Balko's as published in The Messenger?

--VM44

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Christ returned "invisibly" in 1914. ........ What proof?

by hubert in

the watchtower says christ returned in 1914, but "invisibly".

if so, how do they know he returned?

did christ leave them a note?.

VM44

I think the WT said once that they "saw" Christ's invisibly return in 1914 through "eyes of understanding."

This means that whatever explaination the WT comes up with to provide an "understanding" or interpretation of something, is at the same time the PROOF that something happened!

The "evidence" and "physical facts" that the Watchtower claims as "undisputable" proof, come down to nothing more than circular reasoning!

--VM44

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Rutherford Wore This!

by VM44 in

jw
friends

the golden age, june 23, 1920

, page 607 [!!

can?t get away from that number!!

VM44

Look at the address for the Radium Appliance Co. in the ad. They were located in the "Bradbury Building"

This is the building shown in the movie "Bladerunner".

It was supposed to be, in the 1920s, an advanced building of the future!

--VM44

Bradbury Building

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Rutherford Wore This!

by VM44 in

jw
friends

the golden age, june 23, 1920

, page 607 [!!

can?t get away from that number!!

VM44

Rutherford died in 1942 from bowl cancer. The Radio-Solar pad contained radium which is highly radioactive. There may have been other causes for the cancer, but I am sure wearing a radioactive device would not help! --VM44

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Rutherford Wore This!

by VM44 in

jw
friends

the golden age, june 23, 1920

, page 607 [!!

can?t get away from that number!!

VM44

The Golden Age, June 23, 1920 , page 607 [!! Can?t get away from that number!! --VM44]

Comment on the Foregoing [article by J.W. Coolidge, M.D., Life and The Life-Giver]
By J. F. Rutherford
The article by Dr. Coolidge concerning the application of radium as a vital force is interesting to me. About a year ago I suffered from a severe case of pleuro-pneumonia, and Dr. Coolidge was my physician. During the period of convalescence he provided me with a radio-solar pad, or belt, which I wore with great profit to myself. I have since recommended it to others, who have likewise benefited by it. This pad I understand is manufactured by the Radium Appliance Company of Los Angeles,California, and the process of manufacture is to diffuse through a mass of paste by the power of electricity a small quantity of radium, and out of this the pad is manufactured. If the pad is held in the sunlight for five minutes, it can be taken into a dark room and will photograph itself. In other words, it absorbs the energy of the sun and transmits that to the human system. I believe that this will prove very beneficial to humanity; and so recognizing it, I am glad to call attention to it.

Radio-Solar Pad Ad

Radium Appliance Co. of Los Angeles offered, by mail, Degnen's Radio-Active Solar Pad, "worn on the back by day and over the stomach at night," its ad instructed. "Thousands have written us that has healed them of Neuritis, Rheumatism, High Blood Pressure, Constipation, Nervous Prostration, Hear, Lungs, Liver, Kidney and Bladder trouble, etc."
http://www.amarillonet.com/stories/090199/fri_090199-28.shtml

Degnen's Standard Radioactive Solar Pad (1915-1930)
M.L. Degnen, "the man who made this pad possible," has been associated with the development of the science of "radio-activity" since its inception. The knowledge thus gained has culminated in the "Radio-active Solar Pad," or so stated the literature of the Radium Appliance Company of Los Angeles.
This device was somewhat unusual in that it was supposed to be charged in sunlight prior to use. The manufacturer explained that its "radio-activity is further increased by exposing the pad to sunlight" and "when applied to the body, the pad immediately begins to discharge this energy into the system, sending the lifegiving current through the blood and nervous system."
Degnen's Radio-Active Solar Pad seems to have been produced in two versions: the one shown in the top photo that contains purified radium, and the one in the lower photograph that contains a relatively small amount of uranium ore. The manufacturer's literature that I have seen only refers to the use of radium. I suspect that the company might have switched to uranium sometime around 1930. If true, a switch might have been made because the uranium would have been a less expensive alternative to radium. Another possible reason for a switch: radium was getting some bad press in the late 1920s due, in part, to the deaths of the radium dial painters.
http://www.orau.org/ptp/collection/quackcures/degnen.htm

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Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie

by Farkel in

it was made by a women who in later years wore crotchless panties and bras which had holes in the nipple areas.

he not only knew the woman in question (she's now deceased), he has met her numerous times.

up until recently this secret of her year's long sexual affair with rutherford was kept by the family.

VM44

Earnest, thank you for the info about Eckols.

Ken Raines wrote an article about Watchtower Medical Quackery, which is located at:

http://www.premier1.net/~raines/quackery.html

What he writes about chiropractic is interesting:

Chiropractic medicine was started by Daniel Palmer. It sprang from Osteopathy and originally had the same basic philosophy: disease is caused by "subluxations" of the vertebrae of the spine pinching or constricting nerves. Chiropractic "adjustments" of the spine to correct these subluxations was touted to cure many diseases and ailments in the rest of the body. Palmer believed the "life" or "vital" force of life (which he termed the "innate" force) expressed itself through the central nervous system, which could be hindered by subluxations. [13 ]
Many Watchtower Society writers on health were Chiropractors, including A.G. Eckols who treated J.F. Rutherford's pneumonia in San Diego which led to the building of Beth-Sarim so Rutherford could spend more time in a warm, dry climate. [14 ]
Chiropractic has evolved as well through the years. It now has two main branches, usually called the "Mixers" and the "Straights". The straights being of the old school and many are still against vaccinations, drugs, surgery, etc. The mixers (who out number the straights now) now "mix" Chiropractic treatments with an acceptance of orthodox medicine and will refer patients to MDs for many medical problems rather than try and cure diseases through adjusting the spine. [15]
13. Jack Raso, "Alternative" Healthcare A Comprehensive Guide, (Amherst, N.Y.: Prometheus Books), 1993, p. 148.
14. The Golden Age, April 27, 1921, p. 437.
15. Raso, pp. 147-8.

Clayton Woodworth, who was the editor of The Golden Age, was very much against modern medicine, refusing to acknowledge that germs can cause disease.

This goes along with the general rejection of all mainstream institutions by the Watchtower, political, business, religious, medical, and so on.

--VM44

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WT practice of misquoting scholars

by kj in

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i need some help- can anyone give me the names of scholars that the wt frequently misquote, maybe even links to show the true context of some of the misquotes.

kj

VM44

Notice the highlighted material in red!

This text was copied from the Watchtower Observer site

http://watchtower.observer.org/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040309/HISTORY/204007

--VM44

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WT practice of misquoting scholars

by kj in

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i need some help- can anyone give me the names of scholars that the wt frequently misquote, maybe even links to show the true context of some of the misquotes.

kj

VM44

Read this by AlanF. --VM44

Interview With A Watchtower Society AuthorOn Wednesday, 27 August 1997, I met with Harry Peloyan for about 1 1/2 hours in the lobby of the 25 Columbia Heights Bethel office in Brooklyn, New York. My purpose was to discuss problems with the ?Creation? book with him, since he is its main author. This is my recollection of the discussion and events leading up to it. Alan Feuerbacher On Tuesday, 26 August, I took tours of the Bethel printing plant at 117 Adams St. and the office building at 25 Columbia Heights. Around 4:00 p.m. I asked at the 25 Columbia Heights lobby desk to see Peloyan. The desk clerk informed me that he had not been in the office that day due to his having physical therapy and having felt poorly. The clerk told me to try coming back the next day, which I did.

The next day I toured the 360 Furman St. building (shipping) in the morning, then showed up at the 25 Columbia Heights building about 1:15 p.m. I again asked to see Peloyan, but he was not at his desk. The clerk asked me to wait for awhile, so I sat in the lobby while he dealt with a dozen or so large tours, mostly groups of Chicago JWs. After the tours were all launched I again approached the clerk, who said he had forgotten about me. By this time it was nearly 2:30 p.m. The clerk made phone calls while I waited and within a few minutes informed me that Peloyan would be down to see me. He showed up a few minutes later.

explained that I was by no means an evolutionist and most certainly accepted God's creatorship. This calmed him down, but he said that I was still in no position to criticize the book because I obviously didn't accept the Society's version of reconciling Genesis and geology. It was lost on him that the Society is no more in a position to claim that it is right about that stuff than are the young-earth creationists, but I figured I'd better not point that out just then.

these ideas and probably had been for a good many years, since the same misconceptions appear in mid-1960s WTS literature. He would not accept that the 19th-century reports of enormous numbers of "intact frozen animals" were greatly exaggerated, but did acknowledge that they might be

a little bit overblown. I mentioned the Berezovka mammoth and he was completely familiar with it. I tried to discuss details but he pushed the conversation into another "you're just an evolutionist" sort of personal attack. Later I pointed out the "Blue Babe" frozen bison from Alaska, and

that its having been eaten by lions while it was freezing pretty much demolished all notions of "enormous numbers of frozen mammoths" in the arctic. He refused to acknowledge this, however, saying that one case doesn't prove anything. I told him to read the account of this bison in _Frozen

Fauna of the Mammoth Steppe_.

when in college, I tried to write papers defending the Society's view of the Flood and creation, and how when I looked up the references in various WTS publications I found that they were unusable. He again tried to accuse me of not accepting the references because of my prejudice, but I pointed out that was not true because the very purpose of writing the papers was to defend the Society's views. He had no comment on that, and so we changed the subject.

He seemed to take some
delight in the idea of using evolutionist's words against them in this manner, as if it served them right for being so pigheaded. In other words, he and other WTS writers think that the end justifies the means.

rather upset at the implication that he and other WTS writers would actually lie to defend God, and launched into a defense by saying that these writers would ?never? do such a thing, even though they might make mistakes every

once in a while. I said that I accepted this, but the fact that the Society has had many such errors pointed out but failed to correct them showed that they indeed had some spirit of being "deceivers for God." I illustrated this by

telling him that I and others I knew had written to the Society about certain errors and that the Society either did not reply, or refused to acknowledge them. He hemmed and hawed about this.

building. I thought the conversation was over, but when we got near the main entrance he got friendlier and we kept talking.

going to admit to a real problem.

killed every year. In which place would you rather live? The one where the risk of getting killed was one in 10,000 or where it was one in 100? Furthermore, which one could be said to have the worse murder problem?" Again Peloyan refused to answer but it was obvious that he got the point.

the man is.

mistakes, so that the Society is talking out of both sides of its mouth with this argument and being grossly hypocritical. However, I kept my mouth shut.

much too hardnosed. I said that some of the recent ?Watchtower? articles on elders were very good on this. I figured it was best not to point out, however, that the state of elders today is a direct result of them being trained by the Society during the past 25 years, so what else could the Society expect? It was reaping what it had sowed.