Posts by cultBgone

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Why do religious people make claims and then refuse to back them up?

by Viviane in

several times over the past few months i have had conversations, both here and in real life, with religious people making all sorts of interesting and conflicting claims.

i like to know how things work, so generally i will ask questions to net out what i am being told and see if it can be explained and make sense.. for instance, if someone said 2+2=4 and i asked how, there are a variety of ways that could be shown to me, a number line, physical objects being put together, counting on fingers and toes, etc.

indeed, in my personal life, i often have to explain how certain technologies work, sometimes planned, sometimes off the cuff, from a variety of group sizes to a varying degree of technical expertise.

cultBgone

Have to agree with Maat on this one...many folks are content with their lives as jdubs. They might have the skills to reason, but they are not in a position where they WANT to use those skills. Some folks need to belong to a group, and are not unhappy about being labeled as JW.

Who are we to disagree?

Just because we don't agree, and it doesn't make sense to us (and maybe not even to them), it is their choice.

Life is much better spent with a smile on our face and with a happy heart rather than being in turmoil over the choices of others. If they want to live a different lifestyle, they'll decide to do it when they are ready...just like we did.

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Nightline program with segment on JWs has been changed until tomorrow night.

by AndersonsInfo in

i was at a criminal trial all day in murfreesboro, tn, involving the notorious jw who i call "mommy molester," angela montgomery.

this is the reason i didn't know until this evening that the nightline program with the segment on jws was changed until tomorrow night.

(i forgot my phone.

cultBgone

Nice of them to hide it when hardly anyone will view it...wonder how much pressure the gb's legal team put on abc?

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Do you feel bad throwing away literature?

by stuckinarut2 in

jw
friends

so do you feel bad throwing away your old literature?.

what about your old song book or bible from your early days in the org?.

if so, is it because of sentimentality, monetary cost or because it might be 'sacred' ?.

cultBgone

At first I felt somewhat guilty but then it turned to pride that they had no control over me anymore.

The only thing I now regret about tossing it is that I had lots of older books which they've hidden from view, but would be so useful to prove how dramatically they've twisted and turned their "teachings".

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An anthropologist visits a JW community in Santa María Zapotitlán, Mexico

by OrphanCrow in

dr. jena barchas-lichtenstein is an anthropologist who received her doctorate through ucla.. https://www.linkedin.com/pub/jena-barchas-lichtenstein/43/427/702.

in 2013, barchas-lichtenstein submitted the paper "when the dead are resurrected, how are we going to speak to them?

": jehovah's witnesses and the use of indigenous languages in the globalizing textual community as a partial submission for her doctoral dissertation..

cultBgone

Blondie, I remember hearing that same statement. Along those lines we were told that it would be much too confusing for those who lived centuries ago to suddenly be thrust into the world with electricity, airplanes and automobiles. Yet I never saw those things in wt renderings of "paradise" so that didn't make sense.

Sometimes I think they have new ideas in a few talks to see if they stick. If not, you don't hear them again, they just try something else that doesn't raise so many questions.

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Decided to sign up...

by campaign of hate in

so i decided to sign up after many years of lurking.

started researching after finding out about ray franz, which inevitably brought me to this site.. i'm still well and truly inn, but don't want to give any information out, i'm sure you guys know the reasons.. since "jay double you .

org" came online, there has been a definite sense of hysteria with everyone who is "inn", and i get a feeling it's going to get a whole lot crazier as the years press on.. one point i would like to raise is that i feel, without a doubt, that 2034 is going to be the new finish line.

cultBgone

CoH, welcome aboard! We are seeing many new posters so even if you can't physically leave, it's heart-warming to know that you and many others have awakened from the wt nonsense. Hopefully you'll be able to plant little seeds of truth and save more dear ones from the crazy, nonproductive lifestyle that is the bOrg.

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Awesome movie: "THE GIVER". This is a MUST WATCH for witnesses and those breaking free from the WT!!!

by stuckinarut2 in

jw
friends

you have to watch the movie "the giver"!

it is simply an awesome movie for every thinking witness, or those trying to break free from the org's hold on us.. i wont give away too much, but the concept of the film is mind blowing!

utopia vs reality etc... conformity vs individuality and humanity... etc.

cultBgone

The book is available on Amazon, it's an excellent read.

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Jehovah's Witness Elders Question A Brother For Not Turning In Field Service Time

by Watchtower-Free in

found this on youtube.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy3zlxley6u.

cultBgone

Sounds like the eldub mentioning the widow's mite is trying to shame him and take the conversation off-course. Let's twist some more scriptures, shall we?

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I'm at a loss at how to get thru to my parents. I fear they will die before they will stop shunning me.

by cognisonance in

all i want is this: for us to be a family, to spend time together enjoying life.

i don't wish to debate about their beliefs when together.

they can remain jws for all i care.

cultBgone

Wish I had answers to help. All this proves is that the watchtower / jws should be ashamed of their horrible practices which absolutely serve to destroy families.

The phony reinstatement idea is a bad one, imo. You would be more intensely miserable than you are now.

So sorry this is happening to you.

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Interview with an Apostate: Downtowner

by Downtowner in

tell us a little about yourself and your family.i grew up in the organization and baptized at age 10 years 11 months.

i lost my father to cancer and nearly lost my mom (thank goodness i didn't) to an illness both in 1999, i became inactive in 2000, and came out of the closet in 2001.. were you a born in or a convert?i was born in.

are your parents / family jws?

cultBgone

Welcome, Downtowner, thanks for sharing your story. Sorry your mom is stuck in but you have a realistic attitude about that and sound like a very caring person with a good heart. It's a shame that so many have had their real lives damaged by the jdub's mean-spirited policies which are only geared toward keeping their numbers high and the money flowing in, rather than helping people to be the best people they can be. Many hugs to you!!!

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Time Magazine Article: It Happened to Me: I Grew Up as a Jehovah’s Witness

by ToesUp in

interesting article in time magazine, from a former witness.. time magazine.

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cultBgone

Glad for her that Mom had sense enough to leave. Sadly, current jdubs will see this article as something related only to Xmas instead of being able to see the craziness for what it is.