not very often, something will come up that makes me get a sense of having lost something.
maybe a television interview with a witness who does an exceptional job of explaining the kingdom preaching or something.
maybe accolades from the medical community for their stand on blood, how that has helped some other, supposedly superior alternative to be developed.. or maybe it's just a particularly poignant meeting.
I think all people tend to romanticize the past, quite possibly it's our brain's way of protecting us from all the negative things we've experienced.
I used to think the religion was so wonderful because of the diverse worldwide "family" we enjoyed, yet in reality it was never a loving family at all. It was just a fantasy. Because the minute you step outside of the jw box, you cease to exist for them.
i'm curious about the following:.
1) how long have you been a fader for?.
2) how often do you still get pressure from congregation members and/or family to return as an active witness?.
1) How long have you been a fader for? Mentally walking out the door for a decade, physically out for about four years now.
2) How often do you still get pressure from congregation members and/or family to return as an active witness? I no longer get pressured, but I used to receive notes showing that (obviously to them) I had committed a sin but should come back, or that I shouldn't allow someone to stumble me, that sort of thing. And always, the notes shared scriptures intended to steer me on the right path. Same story as many on this site have related, years as a pioneer but never did anyone ask how I was doing, or did I need help. They only cared that I was not attending meetings.
3)
What is the longest period you have ever known anyone to successfully
fade? A successful fade in my view, would be someone who has faded for a
period of time but no longer receives any pressure to return to active
service (completely left alone). I don't know any successful faders from my area but I've been left completely alone for several years now.
4) If you have been a fader for more than two years, do you fear you would eventually have to face DA or DF? No as I don't talk to them. In fact, they could have formally announced I was DA but I wouldn't even know.
5) As faders, how many of you are being treated as if you were DF'd/DA'd? I don't really know if I am shunned because I don't attempt to associate with anyone in my old congregations, and as a single mom I was never much included in the social circles of the congregations. I have extremely minimal contact with one adult child still in but they are tightening their grip on that person, such that contact has been reduced to almost a shunning level.
6)
Have you faded rather than DA'd due to the possible loss family or is
it because you have no network of friends outside the Org? I faded in order to maintain family contact.
7) If you consider yourself a fader how many meetings/assemblies/ field service groups do you still attend on average per month? Zero. I became almost physically ill the last time I went to a meeting, so I left. Never went back.
8) As a fader do you feel that the Org is completely powerless over your life? They are powerless over me personally, but they control an adult child so in that way they have power.
SSC, I've often wondered these same things and it will be interesting to read your results, although many on the board may not be able to share detailed answers as it will reveal too much about their personal situations.
four jehovah's witnesses face death penalty - victim of pakistan's blasphemy law.. http://www.charismanews.com/world/44004-popular-tv-show-the-latest-victim-of-pakistan-s-blasphemy-law.
popular tv show the latest victim of pakistan's blasphemy law 10:00am edt 5/28/2014.
world watch monitor film actress veena malik and her husband, assad khattak khan, were charged with blasphemy after a re-enactment of their wedding appeared on "utho jago pakistan.
harmless, safe, nontoxic, innocent
I don't believe innocuous is a word that actually describes JWs, although that is how they present themselves to the world. They destroy families, self-esteem, and thinking ability. In the big scheme of things inside JW-land, they are pretty toxic.
The fact that these 4 dubs were stupid enough to attempt to gain converts in a country where religion is often used to fuel terrorist groups does not portray either innocence or safety. Whether they were sent as secret missionaries or they took it upon themselves to put themselves in a dangerous locale, there is nothing innocuous about their actions.
The person whacking a hornet's nest with a stick cannot blame the hornets when they attack.
not my work, by the way... newton's prisca theologia is the maker of this great video.. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=okpajgptvyk.
If an "elder" remembered ANYTHING, it would be a horrendous case of CHILD ABUSE within the congregation.
They are so full of BS. Disgusting excuses for men. And one was even smirking throughout his "testimony'?
These men are sooooooo worthy of Karma. Can't wait to see it happen tenfold.
check out this kingdom hall right in a church complex!!
google map!
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my wife and i just found out that our disassociation was announced last night.
we....are...free!.
i'd like to take a moment to thank some people:.
So very happy for you both!! Congratulations!!!
I'm sure your "thank yous" to the wts and those in the cong have many of us nodding our heads in agreement.
Well done!!
so any way i wonder if this kinda of activity is the norm in halls?
my wife has my youngest boy calling an older couple in the hall grampa and grandma, my oldest daughter called another older brother grandpa, and the ms that is studying with my two oldest boys on the down low (like i don't know), he's calling g them his boys.
what the he'll?
i am going to make this short.
i ran into a older jw women who i have known my whole life.
she is pushing 80 and will never change.
The loyal sheeple will meekly walk off a cliff if told it's in their best interest and will please big J.
However it should sound yet another note of alarm to those who have some grievances and realize so many things just don't make sense.
how blessed we are with google.
with some little information, it is possible to expose the current watchtower corporations.. we read earlier about qcs telecom,inc that was transferred from the jw florida professor hachman.. hachman is owning the jwhsf.org and more domains, used by watchtower.. now, on linked in, some "brother" that works for qcs describes about his work and qcs telecom.. it seems to me, watchtower is using qcs for his own 100gb internet and deliver this product by qcs on the market.. all my grandparrents stood for, poor jw's devoting their whole live to this organization is thrown away.
they are openly commercial.. read it:.
