just curious to see how many of us are going to be at that hotel.
the scotts are!
hopefully arriving thursday, october 30, probably late and definitely cranky.. nina
Patio's staying there. She's my sister, btw. And yes, we look it.
My husband & I will be staying too. Coming in Friday some time and leaving out Monday morning. Beachside.
I wonder if the manager would let us have a pool party there.....and bring everybody from Joy's? Whatcha think?
waiting
englishman and her ladyship will be visiting the usa and we are happy to announce a bbq for them at our place.
so mark your calanders!!.
saturday, november 1, 2003 2 pm = ?
sheeeesh, E-man, Big Tex asked for no name tags. lol - joy
Well, suurrrrrrrrrrrrrrre, Big Tex will come walzing in with his kilt on - sure we'll know HIM!
It was hard enough last time with about 25 people. Some people who were quiet (not me) - I never could remember their real or user names.
I think name tags might really help. Yup's my vote.
englishman and her ladyship will be visiting the usa and we are happy to announce a bbq for them at our place.
so mark your calanders!!.
saturday, november 1, 2003 2 pm = ?
Yo Simon,
With 3 kids and business seminars every winter in Orlando........we learned our way around. Lots of cool things to do. But if it's going to be a while before you're back our way, in MY humble opinon..........................
Magic Kingdom & Epcot.........there's a reason Disney is #1. It's fantasy, sure - and it's great. We were going along the River Ride (boat in real water) one time seeing really true looking alligators, etc., when some water splashed on us, our guide said "Don't worry, that's Disney water. It's not wet."
Busch Gardens is nice too - Africa theme, but none of us thought nearly as good as Disney.
Neither is Universal - although quite good. The rides just weren't as good - but the monsters were cool.
Sea World is neat - very different & fun.
But none are as good for kids & adults for fun & fantasy & learning as Disney. We loved Epcot as adults & kids. We loved Magic Kingdom (aptly named) as kids.
Bite the bullet and buy the tickets. Some here should know how to get decent discounts.
waiting - to meetcha!
for some reason, my webtv system is working again, and i am back, at least for awhile.
hopefully, it will keep working.
for some time, i could only read the friends area, but could not respond.
well, well, well. So Zazu let you come back here, eh? Missed you, cutie. Miss Zazu too - and I hear she's cuter than you anyway.........and no, I'm not gay - just appreciate cuteness.
Welcome Back!
waiting
guess this kind of goes with the other thread i started about looking at the inner child that is still hurtingk by posting a pic of us when we where kids.. i found this pic of my parents, my mom was just 15,,,,,my dad barely 18, shortly after , they married soon and i was born when my my was just 16. .
just looking at their faces in this moment in time, in this picture, i can see , that they were just kids too, that they were not ready to face the hardships of starting a family so soon.
i am not making excuses for the things they both did,,,,,,,,,,, they both did many things to hurt me.
well thank you, Gumby.
I've been out of therapy for around 8 yrs now. I used to use imagery a lot back then. Even in my own imagination, I could never get my dad to admit what he'd done. He & I were literally on opposite sides, with no communication - just my rage & his cruelty. Back then, in my imagination - I was as cruel to him, or worse, than he had ever been in real life. A way to work out some anger - without a death penalty for me.
But after the worst of the rage died down some years later, I was still lacking. It wasn't that I wanted to have a relationship with them (they were dead)....I was lacking. I have great affection for the younger parts of myself who live in a safe place (and I know this is imagery) - I've taken all my animals that my father killed inside that place, even great pets I've had which just died. I took my kid brother there who was raped & he, in turn, raped- but long before that age, when he was just a dumb little kid........and finally, my dad, before he was old enough to hurt others, but after he was shamed and hurt by his own cruel parents, just another dumb little kid surrounded by other hurt kids and some really great pets. They understand each other.
That's how I made a sort of peace with a small part of my father.....before he hurt and killed living things.
There's a world of difference between forgiving someone....and just letting go. Finally, I chose to let go & make a sort of peace somehow for myself. But with my parents as adults? Most likely never. I can refrain from violence towards their memory now. I think that's as good as it gets for me.
Thanks for acknowledging this thread - it's good we think about it.
waiting
i'm just made 10,000 posts ... but what's in a number?.
one of my favourite lyrics is from a bob dylan song:.
oh i wish, i wish, i wish in vain.
You poor fool. You have more than me.
Ah well. typing well spent!
Thanks so much for all your time, effort & money.....and Ang too. Doubt if you'd lasted around here without her.
Looking forward to meeting you & family!
waiting
guess this kind of goes with the other thread i started about looking at the inner child that is still hurtingk by posting a pic of us when we where kids.. i found this pic of my parents, my mom was just 15,,,,,my dad barely 18, shortly after , they married soon and i was born when my my was just 16. .
just looking at their faces in this moment in time, in this picture, i can see , that they were just kids too, that they were not ready to face the hardships of starting a family so soon.
i am not making excuses for the things they both did,,,,,,,,,,, they both did many things to hurt me.
Btw, I raised up 3 great kids who left the jw's before my husband & myself.
When I stopped reading, ranting & raving ('bout 6 months) about the jw's - I wrote an apology to all my kids for raising them in a cult. I also talked to each one of them, thanking them for helping us out, and again apologizing. I just didn't know....otherwise, I would have left earlier.
waiting
guess this kind of goes with the other thread i started about looking at the inner child that is still hurtingk by posting a pic of us when we where kids.. i found this pic of my parents, my mom was just 15,,,,,my dad barely 18, shortly after , they married soon and i was born when my my was just 16. .
just looking at their faces in this moment in time, in this picture, i can see , that they were just kids too, that they were not ready to face the hardships of starting a family so soon.
i am not making excuses for the things they both did,,,,,,,,,,, they both did many things to hurt me.
Steve Hassan made a great point at his cult seminar in CA last spring. IF we can find a way to visualize the person opposite us even in a different time era - then use that visualization to find a way to communicate....or at least find peace.
For instance, he has a father who was very aloof with him (most likely a reason he was open to the Moonies.) Even after leaving the Moonies, he couldn't find a way to really communicate with his father. He visualized him as a young boy (at whatever age son was comfortable communicating with his father's image) - and mentally communicated that way, using visualization.
I had a major problem with that and was bold enough to argue the point with him.....what if your father (my father) was our major enemy and we didn't WANT to communicate. Hassan held his stance - but didn't realize that I was talking about personal sexual abuse. The idea upset me so much, I had to leave, hiding as usual, having a semi-panic attack....and my lovely husband, as usual, found me, and gave comfort.
Thankfully there was a therapist in the audience who could see where Hassan was - and where I was mentally/emotionally. As soon as we came back in, I talked about it privately with her - and she made a brilliant observation.
1. Hassan was suggesting make a communication bridge with someone who's not a sworn enemy - but had issues with.
2. Hassan never mentioned trying to mend communication with Rev. Moon - his sworn enemy.
There's a quiet, yet brilliant (imho), movie called Antwon Fisher - based on true story. Please rent it?
The psychiatrist dealing with him (due to major anger issues) suggests he finds his mother who abandoned him. He does. But in order to do that, he has to come into contact with two women who sexually and physically abused him most of his childhood.
The way he interacts with his mother and these women is the crux of this issue, imho. I won't give away the ending...............but it's well worth viewing. A lot of thinking material.
There are all kinds of ways of establishing boundaries, and freedom of some boundaries.
Take care.
waiting
another neologism... .
... just as the homosexual community took a term and used it for their own purposes, so that scientific designations and insulting words were derailed, so to a group of people believe that humanism/atheism et.al.
needs such a term.
lol - as the ol' song goes "witty and charming and gaaaaay...............!"
How apropro. A square was an x in it - rather void-like, eh?
Yeah, that's how I view most men - no doubt about it.
"Don't dismiss what they write about men in Women's magazines. It's not deep, but neither are men."
