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Cost of War

by teejay in

cost of war

waiting

Don't get to my computer much lately........but saw "Teejay".......and it was like ol' times. Howdy, cutie. Hope your family is doing fine?

As for this thread? I've read through it......and thank you to all participants! If both sides don't show up for the discussion......well, it ain't a discussion, eh?

Btw - has there been a thread up lately on HOW TO VOTE? If not, perhaps that would help us long-time-never-voted-jw's.

I called my local city government, who clicked me to the right office, who explained how to register to vote. "You got a driver's license"? the man asked. I responded, "Yep." "Come in here for 5 min. & I'll register you." That's it! I thought it would be complicated - but no! Do it!

I did just that - also got an absentee ballot at the same time (still got family in the jw's).......and was informed by some active political people that because of the computer screw ups (Fla currently) - that's a good way to vote. Absentee Ballot. Means they got it & it will be counted.

lol - if that makes a difference, eh?

Thanks for the great thread. Hope it continues in a semi-quiet, serious, tone........so that it continues. Great information within.

waiting

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SHOWDOWN in the New Hampshire Supreme Court today!!! (JW Abuse Suit)

by loveis in

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it is the civil suit against the wts filed by the berry girls, as seen on "suffer the little children" in the uk and "fifth estate" in canada.

a thread has been going on this in the child abuse section .

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/8/79251/1.ashx.

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Thanks for the reminder..........*we* (me) have a short memory sometimes. Please keep us posted....or at least a click to where we can find information?

I've read quite a bit about the Berry situation........and I just deleted what I graphically think the man should have done to him.

May the Gods, Good Luck, Jehovah.......or just sunshine be on the female Berry's side today. And the Courts.

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Canadian court rules FOR surgeon in case of JW who refused blood

by Gopher in

http://www.medicalpost.com/mpcontent/article.jsp?content=20041004_171727_5692

court rules in favour of surgeon in case of jehovah's witness

woman who refused blood transfusion died after hysterectomy

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Instead, the patients are transferred to a tertiary site with the technical capacity to use the patient's own blood for transfusions.

"transfustions".........is the article referring to that or to the machine that recirculates the person's own blood throughout surgery (which I don't know the technical term for.)

My brother in law opted for the recirculating machine method - which the WTBTS puts in writing is "each person's own personal decision."

I was under the impression that JW's still can't store their own blood for use later is needed. Is that Old Light still current or is there New Light.......again.

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This sounds familiar

by Mulan in

this is part of an article in our local newspaper today.

it was eerily familiar.

it was a very long article, so this is just a portion of it.

waiting

Yeah, it sucks.......but many groups have such a code.

In fact, a lot of companies have the same code.

lol - in fact, many families have the same code.

What goes on in these 4 walls stays in these 4 walls.

Those who speak out are taking a great risk of being isolated, fired (until the "Whistle Blower Law"), shunned, beaten, even killed. At the very least, not being trusted by the group reported ever again.

Ain't human nature grand?

waiting

ps - sorry, been dealing with my 84 yr old mil a LOT lately.

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In defense of Bill Bowen and Silent Lambs

by Junction-Guy in

after reading some of the comments against silent lambs, i thought i would respond back with my own topic.

anyway, i have met bill bowen in person at the silent lambs summit in nashville back in march.

i did not feel that he was arrogant in anyway or egotistical.he seemed to conduct that summit in a very professional way and really put together a good program.

waiting

yet cruelty abounds - hs

I have only one thing to say.
Only on the internet. - shamus

Been away for awhile - so catching up. But cruelty abounds in the world of humans and animals. It has a lot to do with nature.....even in plants.....the strongest survive.

It's just that on the internet, it's so much easier to be cruel - and not have to pay the consequences.

We are discussing Bill Bowen - and he's done some marvelous work, and he's *just a man* trying like the rest of us. May it go well with him.

But......we are discussing this in the section "Child Abuse"........and speaking as a victim/survivor......"cruelty abounds." Sometimes when I think back, I'm just astounded at my father's actions against children and animals. lol - and he looked & usually acted "so normal."

Cruelty abounds in all places.

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Candlelight Vigil for Meza Children Sept. 9th 2004

by Dogpatch in

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candle light vigil for meza children

at 7:30 p.m. on september 9th, we are requesting all who would like to participate to attend a candle light vigil in memory of the meza children.

the location will be at the rock hill national guard armory, 126 museum road in rock hill .

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This is a quote from the Charlotte Observer - click above from our Undaunted Danny

Brown says the Rock Hill church (KH?) did not participate at the Meza family funeral because surviving family members did not request their help. He said the Mezas' church (Pentacostal or KH?) did hold a memorial service the day after the funeral.

Does this mean that the local KH held a memorial service in the KH for the dead family? Btw, questions in quote are mine.

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New info on Rock Hill, SC JW Child Abuse/Murder/Suicide GRAPHIC WARNING

by SWALKER in

silentlambs is crying out for help in this one.

it seems due to a large public outcry by the community, a candlelite vigil is being set up in remembrance of the victims.

they are plastering this info all over the main page at www.silentlambs.com.

waiting

This is such an interesting statement:

"We're still very much grieving the loss of those kids down there," said J.R. Brown, a spokesman at the church's Brooklyn, N.Y., public information office. "We have no policy that instructs our elders or congregants that cases of child sexual abuse are not to be reported. Our policy states just the opposite."

"Down there" - spoken by a northerner about a southerner can be taken as a neutral statement - or as a slightly contemptuous statement...ie: inbred southern redneck.

"loss of those kids." Weren't we the parents who were taught strenuously in the 70's/80's by the WTBTS that our children were NOT the products of goats....kids......but gifts of children from Jehovah - and we should never negatively refer to our children as "kids....ie: animals.

"loss of those kids." Not even naming them - even as the "Meza children."

And until PROVEN otherwise.......why wouldn't a memorial service be performed for ALL the family? Afterall......isn't that the stance they take with child molesters? Until PROVEN.....they are to remain in "good standing" and secret to all in the "congregants?" Even though the man was publicly reproved.......aren't they treating him as a df'd person? Guessing the mother just doesn't count....says a lot on how the WTBTS really feels about women.

The WTBTS lawyers and lously public relations department is disfellowshipping that whole family in front of their God, the media, and hopefully the governmental department who investigates dangerous cults.

Thankfully, Silentlambs, SNAP, and Linkup, along with the Pentacostal Church are literally helping the surviving family......not just giving them useless books.

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Florida - Brace yourselves again!!

by Uzzah in

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to our friends in florida!

hurricane frances is making it's approach over the bahamas.

it is anticipated to hit the east coast of florida by saturday.

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Thanks, Uz, for the update. Been watching the news - all of us in SC were caught offguard last weekend when it rained approx. 12 hrs. straight. My son in Charleston said part of the city is still backed up with water. In our city, there's still water sitting in some yards/streets.

LOTS of people worried about this next one.

My thoughts & hopes for the best to all in Frances' way - or were in Charley's way.

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My new fine art series (for mature art lover eyes only)

by seven006 in

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i thought i might post a link to a test web page i have thrown up on my unfinished (no time to finish it) web site.

some of the old timers on the board have seen some of my commercial work that i have posted from time to time (the 3d image of caged headed watchtower robots) and a very few have seen some of my fine art pieces that have been either published or seen at my home.

this temporary web page is up for a few friends to see the start of this new series and for a few collectors of my art who wanted to see that i am doing fine art again (after an 8 year layoff) so they can get the hell off my back.. before clicking on the link please understand that the first pieces of this new series, that i have put five examples up of, are nudes.

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My screen always shows pictures dark - and yes, I have a lighten button that I have used, thank you.

So I printed out your wonderful pictures, Dave. Just beautiful. Your friend is a beauty - to be sure.

The backgrounds on some were similar, yet different. But the one with the woman sitting in front of the illusional house was really good - assuming a bridge over it? Couldn't really tell. Beautiful colors in all of them.

Thanks for the click.

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Interview with Mark Palo: molested by GB member

by Dogpatch in

interview with mark palo: molested by gb member.

okay my friends, here we go with another blockbuster on the sexual indecencies that the watchtower big boys have covered up for years.

thanks also to kent for his pages, check these out:.

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Here you have Mr. & Mrs. Palo, and their little boy Mark. Brother and Sister Palo have been strong in the truth for scores of years, and each has done much to advance "Kingdom interests". They meet, fall in love, and begin a family somewhat later than average because they gave their youth to Jehovah. Their beloved son Mark is included with them in all their theocratic activity, accompanying them on their frequent visits to Bethel, where they assisted as translators. One day during just such a working visit to Bethel, their years of faithful service was betrayed: something hideous happened to their son, something that would rob him of his innocence and self respect for more than 40 years, and this hideous abuse was at the hands of a member of the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses, a man as far up the hierarchy as any man can get, a man who claimed to be a "Brother of Christ," Leo Greenlees... (nathan natas)

That reads so much like a WT Awake! article - it's spooky.