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Delete Personal Messages
by Maranatha in
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2. suggestions
i've never been on a website that doesn't allow you to delete your own personal messages.

why can we not do that on this site?

what are your motives in keeping our personal messages?
villagegirl

I agree with sarahsmile that you can be just as beat up by

evangelicals with a heavy agenda of Calvanistic dogma, as

you can be beat up by atheists going after anyone who shows simple

regard for the scriptures and the concept of God. I am not a

fundamentalist by any means. I have attended and am open to

re-attend , Synagogue (Reform) meetings of Messianic Jews, the

Anglican Church, The United Church, the Catholic Church and I have

gone to a lot of Seven Day Adventists meetings as well. I attended the

Mennonite Church in a small Canadian village, but found them too

Calvanistic and tending to say "God has a plan for your life" a lot,

and "Praise the Lord" punctuating every sentence. They had a language

I can only describe as 'Christianese' and if you didn't speak it, you were suspect.

I have gone to large Evangelical churches with flashing lights, big bands,

lots of noisy Rock Star entertainment on a big stage in front of the congregation.

All very bewildering. But all of them, seemed to have a joyful spirit and

I felt the spirit of God upon them all. The Kingdom Hall has no such spirit.
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Hello and Thank You!
by Vintagewife in
1. jw
2. friends
i've been lurking here for about 3 months and decided it was time to register and become active.

i left the organization 17 years ago.

like so many of you, i had endured less than christian behavior from the strong cliches that ran our congregation.
villagegirl

WHY, did you attend the 2013 RC ? What led to this decision ?

Oh, I see the post, you want to get your family out? You family will

believe there is "no place else to go" They believe only

the WT represents God on earth and is his "organization" ?

Do they think the "Governing Body" are the "sole channel of communication" ?

Have your read Crisis of Conscience by Raymond Franz ? Is there a chance

some family member would read it ? They are still in touch I take it ?

The new JW org site is glitzy and slick and trying to be as

appealing as it can be. Many stay in for friendships and "belonging"

I imagine they will try to convince you, its all changed now.
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Female Attendants
by Quarterback in
1. jw
2. friends
the best thing to come from the regenal convention this summer, is to see women used as attendants at the end of the program.

they were used in distributing the new publications to convention delegates..
villagegirl

Wake me up when they are giving main talks and on the Governing Body.
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RE-branding, is the WT going to be a completely new religion in a few years?
by Crazyguy in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
thier pushing jw.org and thiers speculation that the name watchtower is going by by.

also they may even drop the name jehovah referencing the new bible at pages 1735-37 i believe.

do you think that the names jehovah's witnesses, watchtower, are going away to be replaced by another?
villagegirl

JW.org is soooo greasy slick and sanitized its screams, cult.

Under About Us - no mention of disfellowshipping

- no mention of absolute agreement with the governing body -

in fact - I found no mention of the Governing Body or the fact

they must be acknowledged as the "sole channel" betweem

man and God. Can't someone do a jwrealtruth.org ?

Domain names in .org are available jwrealtruth, jwfreed, jwchat,

jwexpose - go to whois and search domains - someone meeds

to put up a copycapt site that will be just as smooth and

lovely as the jw site and if doen right, it could be the best thing

yet. This site is too freeforall to get the job done. And I love

Watters, but he needs to shave and put on some nice clothes.

that picture looks like he is sleeping under a bridge.
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I love my life, I don't want to die
by losingit in
1. jw
2. experiences
hello everyone..... i've been thinking a lot lately, when i have a chance to be alone my mind immediately comes to the topic at hand-- i don't want to die.

what would happen to my precious little girls?

but i'm so scared that it's going to happen.
villagegirl

losingit - You need to develop some way to stabilize.

You children need stabilty, safety, calmness, regular routine.

Chaos, tears, anxiety, depression, is not good for you,

or your children or the baby you are carrying.

You need a network of support. Is your family reliable?

Can you tell them safely this child is not your husband's?

If its not safe, do not tell them. Tell a private counselor for sure!!

but protect yourself from the elders and your family by silence.

If your family is safe and will support you and have space

you should reconsider going there, at least for the next year,

till you can regroup and stabilize yourself.

Don't try to be superwoman. You will burn yourself out

and your children will suffer. Think carefully and control emotions.

You can get financial help I hope, if you are in Canada or

the UK and even the USA there is aid for dependent children

and they will go after your husband and extract child support

from him, its the law.
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Delete Personal Messages
by Maranatha in
1. forum
2. suggestions
i've never been on a website that doesn't allow you to delete your own personal messages.

why can we not do that on this site?

what are your motives in keeping our personal messages?
villagegirl

Mikado: How the hell do I know ? People reveal themselves

and their educational background when they make an argument.

This is not a game. Game sites are elsewhere. There are people

dying out there because of this cult.
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Delete Personal Messages
by Maranatha in
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2. suggestions
i've never been on a website that doesn't allow you to delete your own personal messages.

why can we not do that on this site?

what are your motives in keeping our personal messages?
villagegirl

The argument usually goes: " I challenge believers to prove

God exists." "Oh yeah, I challenge you to prove he does not

exist." "Does not", "Does so", "Does Not", Does so", "Does not"

Then the atheists turn this into personal attacks on the believer,

and the atheist starts making up funny names for God.

Its bloody irritating. Unfortunately I do not believe in Hell

or I could derive some satisfaction by imagining them going there.

I make reconsider that doctrine.
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Delete Personal Messages
by Maranatha in
1. forum
2. suggestions
i've never been on a website that doesn't allow you to delete your own personal messages.

why can we not do that on this site?

what are your motives in keeping our personal messages?
villagegirl

Steve2- I never object or have any problem with people

dissecting the "organization" because this needs doing.

jehovahs-witness.net draws in jWs and this studying with

them. Saying the organization is a false prophet, teaches

bogus unscriptural life harming ideas and that its leadership

is dishonest, and clearly demonstrating that, with evidence,

is desperately needed. But many cannot seem to seperate

Jesus Christ from the Watchtower and start insulting God

himself. That undermines any hope for the "sincere but deluded"

jw who is peeking in on us and seeking answers. People forget

who they may be speaking to and what effect it might have.

Some posters seem to try to be as evil appearing as they can.

(I suspect they are actually thirteen years old and hiding in the

basement and have never done an evil deed in their life.)

Atheists on the other hand, start attacking the Bible, and anyone

who believes anything, and try to make out they are "scientists"

There are no scientists here, trust me.
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Delete Personal Messages
by Maranatha in
1. forum
2. suggestions
i've never been on a website that doesn't allow you to delete your own personal messages.

why can we not do that on this site?

what are your motives in keeping our personal messages?
villagegirl

I think controversy is supposed to draw greater

numbers of viewers and therefore the site makes

more money with advertising based on views.

So fighting and bashing each other is good for

Simon's business. This site has sometimes been

a place of reason and sometimes it is just chaos.

There seems to be no real theme or purpose except

to bring up random subjects and debate. Sometimes

it goes well and sometimes its a madhouse. There seem

to be recurring and recycled topics, like re-hashing WT articles

or referring to the same tired old false doctrines like the idea

only special people are "anointed" and the idea there is a

"governing body" as if these things are Biblical or Christian.

Both the name of Jesus and the name of Jehovah are regularily

mocked and spat on, as if God was responsible for the Watchtower

and its idiot leaders. ( oh, I mean glorious ones)

I imagine a lot of this comes from teenagers

and people who do not care who is viewing their comments or

care that this site is connected to religious group by its name.

I think there is much harm done here. Especially for timid jw's

who may be trying to get free and are depressed and confused

as to how to do that or where to go. Is sad really. But until

there is another forum that is better organized, here we are.

I really am confused as to why atheists bother coming here,

it seems so pointless for them. All they really have to say is

"I don't believe in God" alright, so then what ? Basically you

don't care what I believe and I don't care what you believe,

so why are we even in the same conversation ?

As far as informing the moderators, I pm'd simon and

he ignored me and ignat took down some of my posts and

p-messaged to "gird up my loins" whatever that means.

She seems to detest me. One moderator has been

reasonable. I try to be honest and straightforward.

I was sent a PM once calling me a "bitch". But, I have

also met very nice people here and even met

up with some in person.
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Governing Body Will Get to Kill Worldly People at Armageddon! Gods Kingdom Rules Quote
by lostnotfound in
1. watchtower
2. bible
so scanning through the gods kingdom rules i found this gem on page 228.. .

"in heaven, the 144,000 corulers with christ will recieve authority to share with jesus in weilding an "iron rod" of destruction against all enemies of gods kingdom.

( rev 2 26,27) then, together with powerful angels, the resurrected anointed ones will follow christ, the warrior king, as he sets out to confront the "vast army" of enemies that is closing in on its prey - jehovahs people.".
villagegirl

Again lets keep in mind the CORE false doctrines.

There is no: "governing body"

in the Bible in any form.

All priesthoods and central authority

were done away with by Christ.

There is no: "anointed class" described or mentioned

in the Bible, only the general pouring out of holy spirit

on all flesh. ACTS 2:17 (that is anointing )

So we are all anointed in Christ.

That is what Romans, Acts, and Jesus

said. 144,000 is SYMBOLIC and is like all symbolism

in Revelation, which is a book full of numbers and symbols.

Warfare by Christ is spiritual war, against spirit forces and

depicted in symbols in Revelation.

The WT is a False Prophet who spews lies

and false prophesy and false doctrine.