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What is true love?
by hoser in
1. jw
2. friends
i just watched the video what is true love.

first of all it is painfully long.

secondly there is an uncanny resemblance with megan(the one who married out of the truth) to the girl in the jeremiah book who married out of the truth.
warehouse

Nothing wrong with being nerdy...
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Spiritual AMNESTY -- Return to Jehovah
by FusionTheism in
1. watchtower
2. bible
basically, from what i can tell from the new return to jehovah brochure, is that the governing body is now offering amnesty to anyone who has been gone from the congregation but now wants to return.. it claims it doesn't matter what sins you've done, or what caused you to leave, if you repent to jehovah and ask the elders to help you, and return to the meetings, you'll be warmly welcomed with no disciplinary action or judgment against you..
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Fusion, the fact that this could be a new direction is a possibility. Unfortunately, at the point where the rubber meets the road, ie. the elders and co's, the tendencies and thought/decision making processes will take years to catch up.
So even if the gb for some illogical reason wanted to relax and invite people back, it would take tons of prodding and convincing to undo decades of indoctrination. There are a lot of elders and co's who view themselves as the Phinehases of the org. If people have to die, oh well, at least the cong is "clean", and they simultaneously feel righteous in their own eyes.
Often times on this forum, people hesitate to accept a new direction or viewpoints taken by the elite ruling class of jws because they know first hand that the drill sgts of the r&f will drop and fumble and make things more difficult than need be.
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2015 Convention Releases
by wifibandit in
1. watchtower
2. bible
http://www.jw.org/en/publications/jw-convention-releases-2015/.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc7cyswlvwg.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfmuamqiv4k.
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ToesUP wrote:
The morale of the story is the same in every video they do. If you leave Jehovah your life will go to sh**.
I watched the whole thing. There were many parts where I was like "oh good its over, but wait, there's still f-ing 45min left????"
You are right, same old propaganda. Don't immediately date someone, just wait around and hope to bump into them at organizational events. Don't worry about if you really fit eachothers personality, just make sure you both went through pioneer school, serve on the now non-existent rbc, and the guy is an ms.
One thing that I was impressed by was some of the performances. In particular, the actress who portrayed the gal whose marriage was rocky. She really made a complete transformation from bubbly teen to desperate housewife and had great range and delivery.
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BOE 2014-07-13 Appointment and deletion of elders and ministerial servants
by WatchTower87 in
1. watchtower
2. bible
2014-07-13 appointment and deletion of elders and ministerial servantsto all bodies of elders.

the link removed by request is also available at the forms link.

the congregation secretary should arrange for this letter to be retained in the congregation permanent file of policy letters.
warehouse

Can anyone re-post this? I don't see the link any longer. Thanks.
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Elder's School: 2015 KMS Program
by pixel in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
good morning.

want to attend?.

kingdom ministry school.
warehouse

pixel, will you post your notes?
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I've lurked a long time: JW's produce some of the most paranoid humans
by Unlearn in
1. jw
2. friends
i'll keep this brief for now.. long time lurker (4 years or so).. born-in, elder, used on district level (last talk i gave before i left was the baptisimal talk), and lots of hard time put in...before i finally made the move to split.

it's a long stoy, much like many of yours...but with it's own little interesting twists.

more details in the future, perhaps.. as i said, ive lurked here for a while.. its funny: for a long time i'd only come on late at night.
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This thread is absolute gold, thank you Unlearn. I want to quote and remark on some of the pure gems that you've stated, years ago at this point.

'Holy Spirit' didn't expose me or boot me out. I got more privileges of service.

I can't even begin to stress how this same principle has made me argue with myself over the years. My own ego aside, why can't I just do something if it honestly needs to be done? Why do I need a title? If, hypothetically, holy spirit existed, would it really wait until I got a position, or would it instead propel me forward, without asking questions, and act in a unilateral fashion to 'prevent the ark from falling'?

I remember silently crying when listening to an interview with Ed Dunlap about his leaving the WT

Anyone who is reading this, if you have not heard this interview, please break some time out for yourself to listen to it. It has been posted here many times, but it is a commentary quite unlike any of the others that I have heard. Dunlap's words have a genuine authority and wisdom that are unmatched.
- part 1 - http://youtu.be/zZ_HOiCP4Vw
- part 2 - http://youtu.be/5XyfKohXqUw
- part 3 - http://youtu.be/DekSemnhUMI
- part 4 - http://youtu.be/uOw7QqPAdDk
- part 5 - http://youtu.be/gUs8VizuQ-4
But you who are still in, pay attention (if you can) to the talks the elders give. Some of them are free inside...and if you listen closely, you may even hear it. They'll let bits of themselves bleed into their parts. It may just be a little spark...but you'll hear it...every so often.

Every sunday, there's a small part of me that hopes I will get the chance to see this very thing. To hear someone speak from the heart, with the intent to tell a little bit about himself and a little bit about his own beliefs. When it does happen, it is the singular most refreshing of all moments of that day. Though, at the same time, there is a part of me, that when I hear such a spark, a sharp burst of justice jolts my thinking. And I intuitively imagine a process that gathers all of these people who are free on the inside, that simultaneously unites and disperses them, and that has as its sole purpose the internal, catalytic destruction of the JW organization.
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What song or line from a song bests describes your time as a JW?????
by karter in
1. jw
2. experiences
waisted days and waisted nites.. freddy fender..
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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Caleb and Sophia visit Bethel for the last time - Photo Gallery
by processor in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
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.. .. .. .

.. .. .. .
warehouse

these are epic, i'm dying in laughter
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KM Online Now
by konceptual99 in
1. watchtower
2. bible
even more of what you don't want to read is online.

the km are now online under wol.

http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/lv/r1/lp-e/0/20397
warehouse

OneEyedJoe wrote:

My guess is that they got tired of people finding TTATT by searching for the KM PDFs.

lol, this is the exact reason i started coming to this site. Years ago I thought, "someone has to have at least maybe scanned some KMs or other shit, let me see if the internet has this". And then I come here, and ". . . wait, there are hi-res pdfs of KMs, BOE letters, and flock books on this site? ppppffffffttttt".

Transparency would solve so much of the JWs problems . . . oh well. A pound of cure, instead of an ounce of prevention.
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Something Big is Coming...
by notsurewheretogo in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
the annual meeting of the governing body of jehovah's witnesses will be in october 2014.. .. in november 2013, just after the last one they published this now famous statement in the 15th of november 2013 watchtower page 16 paragraph 17 says:.

"at that time, the lifesaving direction that we receive from jehovahs organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint.

all of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.".
warehouse

The feeling I get is that it will be a re-organization of how the field service is accomplished. A restructuring to eliminate certain aspects, with a new way of reporting/counting time, placements, bible studies and so-forth. Whether it will be tightening or a loosening of the reigns will certainly be a matter for discussion. Also, a large hardcover reference-style bible and the pocket/kids bible (with f-ing Caleb or some nonsense in the cover).