Wow, 11 years ago...can't believe the angels are still managing to hold back those winds of destruction. Still got a lot of family connections but don't hear a lot locally. Last time I got news, Ron's JW son-in-law had committed suicide. The story was he had been on apostate sites and lost his hope of eternal life in paradise. Might have phoned Ron with my condolences, but found out about a year too late. Be really surprised if Ron's out. He was pretty fanatical. Hard to manage in a judicial comity...believed ever sinner needed to be cast out. He had closed his constuction company and was pioneering when he wasn't at an RBC project. He was gettin' in his hours, alone, when he stopped in all those years back.
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Yesterday's a.m. shepherding call
by wheelwithinwheel inpainting an empty apartment knock at the door
ron the elder doing not-at-homes.
comments on: well how you doing dave?
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Embarrassed and Glassy-Eyed stop by
by wheelwithinwheel intwo brothers doing the territory stopped in at my place.
i kept them on the step.
after some hellos and catching up, i said so you folks are on tv now.
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Two brothers doing the territory stopped in at my place. I kept them on the step. After some hellos and catching up, I said “So you folks are on TV now”. I was quickly corrected. I should have said “We” are on TV now. I said “OK that’s nice to know I’m still included”. They insisted I was still deeply loved by the congregation. I told them I was quite shocked at the direction the organisation taking, especially after all those years of criticism of televangelists. Then I got into this year’s conventions, the “I love this city” video campaigns, jw.org tourist attraction pamphlets, guided tours of the city, brothers organising “mob” events, pop music, line dancing and disco dance lessons on the Kingdom Hall podium, trinkets and souvenirs, silly banners waved around, cheering, hooting and doing the Mexican wave at the theocratic venues. I then added, that’s why I said “you folks” because frankly, I don’t agree with all this ‘imitating the world stuff’. If ‘imitating the world’ is what it takes to get the brothers to attend the conventions, then the GB, and you guys personally, should be asking yourselves some very serious questions.
I got a sheepish, embarrassed look from one of the brothers.
But the other one went glassy-eyed and plunged into how great jw.org was, the immense success it enjoyed, and how Jehovah was behind the changes, because thousands were coming into the Truth every month now. People, especially the younger generation, were learning about jw.org because it was popping-up on their devices.
I reminded him that Jesus had taught the path was narrow, it wasn’t going to just pop-up on a device. Before, JW’s had always believed and taught an effort was involved. I added that if the number was really growing that fast perhaps he should start questioning the destination of jw.org’s path. He didn’t get it.
I looked at them both and said “What really concerns me are the buttons, stickers, etc. and everyone plastering their fingernails and cupcakes with jw.org. Family study has become family worship, and for family worship, the family makes jw.org cookies. At the conventions jw.org is up on jumbotrons 160 X 72 feet long and it’s beginning to look like Israel to me….you know” and, determined to etch a visual memory of my thoughts into their minds, I kneeled down on the pavement, did a long Mecca Bow, then finished my sentence with “…the golden calf.”
There were bystanders on the street, this was becoming too embarrassing for them and they suddenly became pressed for time.
I got quite a kick out of this discussion and thought I’d share it. I think it underlines what I’ve discovered over time. It a lot harder to get a JW out, than it is to get him in.
However, my real point is: this summer the GB has given all faders ‘a gift on a silver platter’. An easy to explain, non-doctrinal, impossible- to- disfellowship reason for leaving JW’s. A deep discomfort with the “worldly” direction the organisation is headed in.
I’m at a timeframe where it would be ridiculous to announce I was disfellowshipped, so I felt quite a ease to leave them with the added thought, “You know with all these new developments, I’m starting to wonder if you folks aren’t part of Babylon the Great, LOL”. They stopped smiling.
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Party in the kingdom hall!
by StephaneLaliberte incheck it out and download before i am forced to take it down!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf_rfrusa1c.
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"Obviously some elders sanctionned this but what proof is there that the GB organized this?"
1. Any activity officially organized by the JW brass is tightly controlled - even the delegates are hand-picked, check out an application - at the convention the Society even decides who can carry a mop - Is it reasonable there would not have been precise instructions as to the entertainment? This organization is about control.
2. The Organizations view on gatherings has always been "Watch out what you organize because you're responsible for what goes on". I remember elders who wouldn't even MC a wedding in case something went wrong. So who organized the Entertainment? It's at every venue...strange coincidence if it wasn't the GB who were responsible.
3. The script used at the party sounds Bethel-tuned...the "Congregator" etc.
Of course the official line will be denial just like it was for the UN membership
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Party in the kingdom hall!
by StephaneLaliberte incheck it out and download before i am forced to take it down!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf_rfrusa1c.
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Nothing on the internet is private...Google "Elders Worst Nightmare"
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Letter From My Mother: Moire insane Watchtower Rhetoric
by confusedandalone inagain, i apologize to any who think i may be going overboard posting these letters, but i am hoping that i can help prepare others for the type of bombardment that they may face when dealing with mentally diseased witness parents who have no idea just how much control this cult has over them:.
august 19, 2013. dear <my name removed> & <my wifes name removed>, .
i had the privilege of attending the convention this weekend for a second time and i must say that i enjoyed it more than the first.
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Your mom's letter sounds like something mine has said or written, time after time. So very sad. And there is absolutely no reasoning possible because you, my friend, are wrong. And your mom is right. And you have a bad thyroid.
If you are determined to go out in a blaze, why not dress appropriately, stand up, ask for everyone's attention and read your da letter yourself.
We all feel for you, your wife and kids.
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A picture so outrageous, it deserves its own thread...
by cedars ini mean no disrespect to sd-7 or his fine thread on which this picture has already featured, but i think it is just so ridiculous that it deserves a thread all of its own.. lurkers and apologists, this is how your precious organization views itself.... behold the madness.... .
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looking for these pdfs and updates to other pdfs in the message thanks :)
by average joe ini am looking for these books in pdf.
direct and cross examination questions in child custody cases (1987).
memorandum for regional building committees, for regional building committee members.
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looking for these pdfs and updates to other pdfs in the message thanks :)
by average joe ini am looking for these books in pdf.
direct and cross examination questions in child custody cases (1987).
memorandum for regional building committees, for regional building committee members.
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looking for these pdfs and updates to other pdfs in the message thanks :)
by average joe ini am looking for these books in pdf.
direct and cross examination questions in child custody cases (1987).
memorandum for regional building committees, for regional building committee members.
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dress code for Bethel visits
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