i work for a nationwide christian radio program that airs on sunday's and this week we are having on a jehovah's witness.
if you would like to listen in, go to kprz.com and you can hear it live or go to contendfortruth.com and see if it will be broadcast in your area.
it should be interesting, i really didn't think jw's did that sort of thing (have a public debate).
I really didn't think JW's did that sort of thing (have a public debate).
Unclepenn1, how are you?
thay don't do that sort of thing. *willy looks into his 8 ball and sees* the show will not be a public debate. it will be spin spin spin.lol i'll be there and thanks for posting it.
i thought that this was all out of the way when 2 weeks ago my wife & i handed in letters of disassociation.. we have been since then trying to adjust & just when i thought i was getting somewhere - starting to feel normal again - i got a phone call 1hr ago from our presiding overseer saying that they haven't announced it yet & wanted to talk.. he is a very nice guy & i was caught totally unprepared so i put him off - said i would ring back later - 2pm'ish uk time.. now i have that horrible feeling in my stomach again - help!.
basically, when it comes down to it i don't think we want them to come over - it will open us up too much & i don't want that.. also, though, i want to sort it out; so i am thinking of just chatting to him for a bit on the phone.. i didn't really want to do this since it could knock their faith & also i am not fully ready to argue all of the facts with elders.
however it looks like i will have to.. anyway when it boils down to it they can argue away all of the facts like the un thing etc.
Steven,
you handed in letters of disassociation. and you didn't really want to do it. don't. thay have no power over you. thay are hunting you. and the prize is your being DF'ed. don't play. don't give them power over you agan. thay'll only use it to DF you. that is all. that is there help for you.
there is a lot of ignorant afghan bashing going on here at the moment (as opposed to informed afghan bashing) and when we read the papers and see the television pictures it's little wonder why.
the world news media is on a feeding frenzy whipping up so called 'anti-terrorist'* retoric to silly levels.
(*one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter .. nelson mandela?
Let me make this perfectly clear - I am not against every callous terrorist on earth being hunted down and excecuted like the worthless dogs they are.
Ah, a true Christian.
the bible clearly states that fornicators will not inherit god's kingdom, but the question is "what is a fornicator"?
if i remember correctly the word fornication is derived from the greek word "porneia".
the problem is there are different defintions of that word porneia.
Leander,
i couldn't agree more. after reading your frist post agan and thinking about what i rembmber of the "acceptable" sex form the bible. i find my self asking just who and what it is that gives us this form of "regulated" sex? like: only with your wife- only one wife-only to make babys etc.. i don't think it is the bible.
the bible clearly states that fornicators will not inherit god's kingdom, but the question is "what is a fornicator"?
if i remember correctly the word fornication is derived from the greek word "porneia".
the problem is there are different defintions of that word porneia.
bboyneko hi,
thanks for geting back to me. i found:
Titus 1: 6
An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient.1 Timothy 3: 12
A deacon must be the husband of but one wife and must manage his children and his household well.
but you will notece it does not say a man must have only one wife. it says an elder and a deacon. these are not people these are poitions. if no man may have more then one wife why would you need to say anything more?
but this is not anything "more" is it, it is realy only elders and deacons. the "more" must be men who are not elders and deacons.
"TWO will become ONE." isn't that sex?
the bible clearly states that fornicators will not inherit god's kingdom, but the question is "what is a fornicator"?
if i remember correctly the word fornication is derived from the greek word "porneia".
the problem is there are different defintions of that word porneia.
i can't find anytihin in the bible to say a man need have only one wife. the only placy i found it is in church Tradition. if you found it in your research about sex can you give me the chapter and verse?
there have always been things about the bible that never really made much sense to me.
not to say that i disagree with whats in the bible but i have wondered about the fairness of certain things.. 1. for example i've always even as a child thought that it was odd that so many people would die during armageddon.
now as an adult and i understand people better than i did years ago i really do feel puzzled about the fact that according to the scriptures the majority of mankind will perish.
that's because there is no "evidence" that you have to offer which proves that the Bible is NOT the word of God
hi Lefty,
can you tell me who frist said the bible is the word of god?
can you tell me the year?
can you tell me how many years it was after the chirch went apostate untill the time thay called it the word of god?
can you tell me why i need to call an apostate book the word of god?
most of you are are aware that i sent out a letter to friends and family exposing the organizations association with the un.. since that time there have been several very important developments including wtbs dissacociating themselves from the un.. because of this i felt i had to get this new information out to everyone i had writen the origional letter to.. i sent this update to out of town friends and family.i encluded a copy of the un letter announcing wt's dissacociation and the two guardian articles.. my plan met with a problem.i knew my local po had warned everyone not to read anything else from me.i knew he would do this so i even sent him a letter along with the rest to show that i stand behind what i wrote and i'm not afraid of him.. today i did the only thing i could think of,i wrote a new letter to the po.. here it is,.
dear po 10-16-01. circumstances have changed since my last letter to you and others.. i am honor bound to update you and them of these changes.
im sure that youve told everyone not to open anything from me so thats why i am writing to you only.. the information i sent earlier was accurate and true at the time but as i stated earlier things have changed.. enclosed please find an official copy of the october 11th 2001 letter announcing the termination of the wtbs association with the united nations.
hi sane Ranchette
"He says I'm like a little mouse playing infront of a hungry snake!"
a snake, how fitting
do you think that people might become jw,study,go to meetings cuz thay know that thay might get a chance to molest kids, and get away with it?.
i think that child molesters might look at the wtbts as a safe haven for them.... has anyone else ever thought about this?
yes i do. the WT is a safe haven for them. one the promlem is molestation grows expedentially. molesters in power will need to protect other molesters or face possible exposure.
are child molesters calling at your door?.
do jehovah's witnesses approve, condone, and encourage accused, confessed, and convicted child molesters to call door to door on unknowing potential victims in the witnessing work?
the answer to the above questions is yes on both accounts.
I encourage Jehovah’s Witnesses and the public to unite, and demand Watchtower to change their policy.
bill keep on encourageing. i'll keep on praying for you and the kids. i wish you the best