Hey, Estee!!!!!! Nice to see you posting.
Yes, it's rough when your kids act like you don't exist. My heart goes out to you.
Love,
Dottie
there are always a few tender hearted, who know that shunning is stupid and keep on talking to df'd people, when no one is looking.
are there still a few who keep on talking to you, even if you are df'd?
i'm sure that elders wouldn't shun you if you talk to them, so why do others have to shun you?
Hey, Estee!!!!!! Nice to see you posting.
Yes, it's rough when your kids act like you don't exist. My heart goes out to you.
Love,
Dottie
there are always a few tender hearted, who know that shunning is stupid and keep on talking to df'd people, when no one is looking.
are there still a few who keep on talking to you, even if you are df'd?
i'm sure that elders wouldn't shun you if you talk to them, so why do others have to shun you?
I had a close friend who continued being my friend after I walked away. For her sake I didn't answer her last email to me. I feel that it is better that way.
There was an ancient woman of the anointed class that I used to go out in service regularly when I lived in TN. She knew the name of every single plant we saw. I got df'd and one time when I was leaving the hall, she looked at me with those great big eyes (her eyeglasses magnified her eyes so they took up half her face, or seemed to) and gave me a sweet smile.
I just found a website and if I ever find religion again, I will join up. The website is pcpnet.org. Looks like they wouldn't shun you, no matter what you did.
i have three living children.
one i gave up for adoption, so i never hear from him.
my only daughter doesn't speak to me because she hated being a jw and hated me for forcing it on her.
((((Lew, Jurs and Lyin)))) Thank you. I love you for being so incredibly kind. I won't give up hope that Deanna and I will get close one day.
Love,
Dottie
snoozy wrote in another thread:.
"wind..i know we have had our differences.....i really am sorry for all we have been through beween us!..i wish i could change it all!....
snoozy....".
Snoozy wrote in another thread:
"Wind..I know we have had our differences.....I really am sorry for all WE have been through beween us!..I wish I could change it all!...
Snoozy...."
Snoozy, I can honestly forgive you for all the hurt you have caused me and people I care about. I have often wondered why this has gone on for so long. Yes, please change it all. It's not too late. Please let's not continue like this. I mean you no ill-will and I honestly hope that you are sincere in what you are saying here.You only hurt yourself by angrily holding onto these grudges the way you do. We all make mistakes and there's no need to rehash past offenses over and over. Wouldn't it be nice if we could get along like when we first started posting and get rid of all the bitter sarcasm and innuendos? I don't expect us to be all ga-ga about each other, but we can at least be civil.
You have been through a lot lately and it's time for you to have some peace in your life. Hopefully you will find it here.
Dottie
any ideas for good stocking stuffers?.
i have peppermints, chocolates, lottery holiday scratch-its, and a john wayne dvd (the searchers) for my husband.
any other ideas?.
If anyone wants to stuff my stocking with a stocking, I prefer fishnets.
any ideas for good stocking stuffers?.
i have peppermints, chocolates, lottery holiday scratch-its, and a john wayne dvd (the searchers) for my husband.
any other ideas?.
Hand-crocheted dish cloths (basket-weave design)
Edited to add: Even guys can use these...
Edited by - windchaser on 13 December 2002 16:50:42
click here: christmas_house.swf
have a joyous christmas.
love, robyn
Aw, Scooter!!!!!!!! Thank you. I love Bosco.
it's my birthday today and i'm just off out for a drink (or maybe a few !
) with some friends; i've opened all my presents and i'm so happy i'm having birthdays again !.
happy birthday to lilacs and cassilines son, it's theirs today too
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, TERMIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Edited to add: HAPPY BIRTHDAY, MUTZ!!!!!!!!
Edited by - Windchaser on 13 December 2002 15:38:43
i have three living children.
one i gave up for adoption, so i never hear from him.
my only daughter doesn't speak to me because she hated being a jw and hated me for forcing it on her.
Wow, Everyone. I can't believe all these warm responses. Thank you.
I gave my son up for adoption when I was seventeen, too. It was against everything I believed in when I gave Kevin (yes, I named him) up. My mother gave Jimmy's (the father's) parents a hard time and they, in turn, paid her off - $1,000. This money was given to the Salvation Army's home for unwed mothers and I lived there, a baby factory, for six months. Jimmy's father spoke to me one last time when my pregnancy was made known to him. He told me that there was one stipulation with this money he was giving my mother, that I must put my baby up for adoption. Jimmy had been adopted and they felt it was the only thing I could do to provide decently for my baby. When Kevin was born, I held him. He was the most handsome baby that I've ever seen. When I was able to walk down to the hospital's nursery window, I stood staring at him and a very beautiful woman asked me if he was mine. I said yes. She said that he was the prettiest baby she had ever seen, too. I got to hold and feed him a few times. I told him how much I loved him and that I didn't want to give him up, but I had to. I told him that I would always love him. A couple of months later, I went into Boston to sign the papers. I had to cross Boston Common to get to the subway. I remember seeing birds all around me and crying as I walked through. I didn't care. I had just signed away my heart.
I got to meet Kevin (renamed Paul) several years ago. He has had a good life and he told me that I did the right thing. His parents also adopted two other children and are really good people.
My daughter had a very bad childhood. She was born a year after Kevin was born. I was saying, Screw You, I won't give this one up! Five years later, just before I became a witness, I became pregnant again with Eric. He was the one who had leukemia. After ten years of being a jw and feeling very lonely, I moved to the South. The brothers there were more interested in me than they had been in Massachusetts. I married the first one to ask me although I didn't love him. He beat the crap out of me and Deanna. He is Greg's father. He treated Greg well, but Deanna has scars on her back from the hundreds of hits from hickory switches and Eric was treated like he was an inferior because of his illness. I divorced him and married his best friend (I loved him). Although he spanked my children, he was more the mentally abusive kind. Deanna couldn't take it anymore and ran. I'm telling you this because Deanna had more reasons to hate me that just me being a jw. I wasn't a good mother. I had expected perfection from her and she was the only child for almost six years. When Eric got sick, I gave him all my attention. Then, I married awful men who just added to the abuse and neglect.
I've tried to reconcile with her, but she has become an alcoholic and is very messed up. There is a whole lot more to this, but she has made it very obvious that she wants nothing to do with me. I am always here for her. It's been several years since our last contact. I tried to tell her how much I love her and how sorry I am for the childhood I gave her, but she is so full of anger, she wouldn't listen.
When Greg called me yesterday he asked if I had heard from Deanna. I know that it hurts him, too.
I hated my mother when I was a teenager and came to love and respect her after I had children of my own. Deanna has two sons who she left in the care of her in-laws. Having these two beautiful children didn't change her feelings toward me. The damage is that great.
I think if she knew I was no longer a jw, she would hate me all the more. She would think about all the hell she went through and now I'm out of it, when it's too late for her.
My life has been pretty screwed up and I guess that's why I'm so grateful that Greg is who he is today, that he was able to lift himself out of it and still have love in his heart for me.
Edited by - windchaser on 13 December 2002 8:34:28
it may be a little early for this, but i am kind of new to all these things.......... so what are your new year's resolutions??
here are mine: get fit, get organized, and to see some of my life goals acheived this year.
last year i dedicated the year to having some fun, giving myself time off since just leaving the borg.it was all good , but now i am ready to not just work on clearing my mind, but healing my body as well.
Mulan, you're ON! E-mail me your address and I'll send it to ya.:)