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  They SLAUGHTER KIDS in JWdom, don't they, Mom?

  by Focus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here the prime sources of data are watchtower publications.. the data.

  fact one (from watchtower magazine 15 october, 1993 p32).

  doctor x, sympathetic to the jehovah's witnesses, stated that to forego blood transfusions increases the mortality rate for a standard operating procedure from c0.5% to c1.5% (in the advanced world).. fact two (from awake!

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  Why Focus is a liar:

  Please read the following quote from the Watchtower that is the supposed basis of Focus post and note that not only does he misrepresent what it says, he seems incapable of understanding simple declarative sentences. Oh, and you might try to find the second quote.

  Ask yourself why someone so accustomed to quoting great tranches of material from the publications didn't quote the whole thing on this one. Ask yourself why you are so credulous.

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  Blood transfusions are common in modern medicine, but do they measure up to their reputation? What do you think?

  In The American Journal of Medicine (February 1993), Dr. Craig S. Kitchens asked: "Are Transfusions Overrated?" He noted that physicians often weigh whether the benefit of a therapy is more than the risk it might bring. What about transfusions?

  Kitchens reviewed recent evidence of many risks linked with transfusions, such as hepatitis, compromised immunity, organ system failure, and graft-versus-host reactions. One study summarizing "a myriad of complications" from blood transfusions "concluded that each transfusion event has an aggregate 20% chance for some adverse reaction, some of which are minor but others deleterious," even fatal.
  However, do the supposed benefits justify facing such risks?
  Dr. Kitchens reviewed 16 reported studies involving 1,404 operations on Jehovah's Witnesses, who refuse transfusions in obedience to the Bible command to 'abstain from blood.'-Acts 15:28, 29. The result? "The Jehovah's Witness patients' decision to forego transfusions for major surgical procedures appears to add 0.5% to 1.5% mortality to the overall operative risk. Less clear is how much morbidity and mortality are avoided by this practice, but they probably exceed the risk of not being transfused." (Italics ours.) His point? Any medical risk of refusing blood is probably less than the risks involved in accepting blood transfusions.

  Hence, Kitchens' reasonable question: "If not transfusing Jehovah's
  Witnesses actually results in little acute extra morbidity and mortality and avoids a significant amount of costs and chronic complications, should patients receive fewer transfusions?"
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  PEDOPHILES are to WTS as flies are to honey?

  by Focus in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  w73 11/15 703-4 questions from readers ***.

  do paul's words at 1 corinthians 6:1-7 mean that under no circumstances should a christian take to court a case involving a fellow believer?

  -u.s.a. here paul was showing the corinthian christians the inconsistency of taking disputes between christians before secular tribunals.

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  Xandit

  Yeah he's as cute as a warm bucket of spit.
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  "The Note"

  by AuSet in

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  at the 1994 district convention in bismark, north dakota, (could possibly have been 93) my sister wrote a note to her friend and tossed it in the garbage.

  the note contained a discussion about going to boy's hotel rooms after the sessions ended, and other troublesome activities, including lying to the parents about what my sister and her friend were doing.. presumably, an attendant found this note in the garbage and turned it into the elders.

  on the last talk of the last day of the convention, the note was read out loud to the entire audience, along with the warning that "whoever you are, we will find you.

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  I believe you've said you're not a Witness and so you won't know much about the way Assemblies work. Just to clear it up for you, they might say something like there's an ice storm coming and you need to leave promptly after the session, or the parking lot is blocked at a particular exit, but it never goes further than that. Reading little notes found in the trash just sounds completely unreal to me and I've been associated with a lot of assembly programs.

  The only real possiblity is that this is North Dakota we're talking about and there's not a lot to do in North Dakota other than count telephone poles so maybe they needed a little excitement.

  Edited by - Xandit on 5 March 2001 14:1:43
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  Watchtower and sex

  by claudia in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok maybe this is a dumb question, but i really am curious.

  why does it seem that fornication is the only "real" sin in the jw religion?

  i mean people can slander, be gluttonous, get drunk and have unethical business practices, but god forbid you should have a little sex.

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  Drugs, smoking, homosexuality, all those things will get pretty quick action. But, there's just a lot more fornicators out there )
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  "The Note"

  by AuSet in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  at the 1994 district convention in bismark, north dakota, (could possibly have been 93) my sister wrote a note to her friend and tossed it in the garbage.

  the note contained a discussion about going to boy's hotel rooms after the sessions ended, and other troublesome activities, including lying to the parents about what my sister and her friend were doing.. presumably, an attendant found this note in the garbage and turned it into the elders.

  on the last talk of the last day of the convention, the note was read out loud to the entire audience, along with the warning that "whoever you are, we will find you.

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  Assemblies are pretty tightly structured. It's almost unheard of to deviate from the program in any way. I've heard a couple of these stories before over the years and went to the trouble of running them down. The ones I checked were simply not true. My favorite was the drunk driver that killed someone and was disfellowshipped on the spot by a committee consisting of the DO, CO, and Assembly Chair.

  I happened to know the DO, CO and Assembly Chair, got some real blank looks on that one.
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  A New Nail in "FRIEND"'s COFFIN ;-)

  by Focus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know that honest-hearted ones here are thoroughly sick of friend's ill-disguised, legalistic, nitpicking, ground-shifting, form-over-substancing, necrophilia-inducing attempt to deny that the setup and conduct of the watchtower society serves excellently to encourage pedophilia... (of course, like all apologetics claim, he is not defending the cult, only attacking the poor argument of the opposer - lol!

  lol!

  lol!).

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  Xandit

  There is a difference in stupidity and idiocy, and he's definitely an idiot.
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  A New Nail in "FRIEND"'s COFFIN ;-)

  by Focus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know that honest-hearted ones here are thoroughly sick of friend's ill-disguised, legalistic, nitpicking, ground-shifting, form-over-substancing, necrophilia-inducing attempt to deny that the setup and conduct of the watchtower society serves excellently to encourage pedophilia... (of course, like all apologetics claim, he is not defending the cult, only attacking the poor argument of the opposer - lol!

  lol!

  lol!).

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  Xandit

  Kismet you need to climb down off your high horse and live in the real world. If you think you're going to reach Focus with any kind of reasoned appeal, you are delusional. This has been going on for years.
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  "The Note"

  by AuSet in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  at the 1994 district convention in bismark, north dakota, (could possibly have been 93) my sister wrote a note to her friend and tossed it in the garbage.

  the note contained a discussion about going to boy's hotel rooms after the sessions ended, and other troublesome activities, including lying to the parents about what my sister and her friend were doing.. presumably, an attendant found this note in the garbage and turned it into the elders.

  on the last talk of the last day of the convention, the note was read out loud to the entire audience, along with the warning that "whoever you are, we will find you.

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  Xandit

  Having been in charge of cleaning at a number of assemblies I can assure that every piece of paper in every trash can is read by specially trained Brothers who are charged with ferreting out just such misdeeds. I remember fondly when we finally received the ultraviolent lamps so we could read things that were being written in invisible ink.
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  PEDOPHILES are to WTS as flies are to honey?

  by Focus in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  w73 11/15 703-4 questions from readers ***.

  do paul's words at 1 corinthians 6:1-7 mean that under no circumstances should a christian take to court a case involving a fellow believer?

  -u.s.a. here paul was showing the corinthian christians the inconsistency of taking disputes between christians before secular tribunals.

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  Xandit

  I suppose that's the way to look at it. I just don't have the patience to deal with the deliberately oblivious.
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  A New Nail in "FRIEND"'s COFFIN ;-)

  by Focus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know that honest-hearted ones here are thoroughly sick of friend's ill-disguised, legalistic, nitpicking, ground-shifting, form-over-substancing, necrophilia-inducing attempt to deny that the setup and conduct of the watchtower society serves excellently to encourage pedophilia... (of course, like all apologetics claim, he is not defending the cult, only attacking the poor argument of the opposer - lol!

  lol!

  lol!).

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  Xandit

  Hey Kismet, Focus' parents put him/her/it out for the wolves but the wolves didn't have the stomach for it.