Get well girlie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Many hugs- I'll take care of your flowers for ya okay?
BTW- what am I supposed to do with them??? :D
Speedy recovery!! Come back and play with us soon!
XW
i am sorry for disappearing from the boards the past few days.
i started overtime at work again and have been worn out.
i just wanted to fill you in on tink.
Get well girlie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Many hugs- I'll take care of your flowers for ya okay?
BTW- what am I supposed to do with them??? :D
Speedy recovery!! Come back and play with us soon!
XW
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before my dad went into surgery he asked that i contact the people on this board and let them know how much it ment to him much it ment to him over the past month or so to be able to talk with all of you.. this is one of the few things in his life he could still enjoy.dad wanted to especially thank craig (ona ) for accepting him and apologies for anything he said that might have offended you.. my father was in so much pain over the past seven years ,god must have thought it was time,dad passed a few houres after surgery.. dad asked not to have a service and will be cremated than placed in an urn ( as he said "so he can keep an eye on mom" ) we all loved him deeply and he will be missed.
i will leave the company email should anyone want to,i will print them out for mom and the family to read.. again thanks to all, our love is with each and every one of you.. matthew mc cune [email protected]
Matthew:
I am so sorry for your loss. I spent some time with your dad in the chat room and he was a great guy with a wonderful sense of humor.
He spoke to us the day he was going in for surgery and up to that point had said nothing about it. A very strong man indeed.
If there is any way that we can help you, please let us know.
xenawarrior
who was your favorite witness?.
mine was john richards.
when i got to know him, he was an old man, and our theocratic ministry school servant.
Has to be O.J. Simpson. When he got up on the stand and put that glove on and it didn't fit- I thought- WOW, what a great witness to have on the stand!!! That other guy they had up there- the actor guy with the scraggley blonde hair who lived in the guest house- I don't think he did as good a job as a witness. What was his name?? Geez now that's going to bother me all night!
Oh, there was also Sgt. Schultz of Hogan's Heroes- "I see nossingggg, I hear nossinggggg" Now he sucked as a witness too.
XW, of the "smart ass class"
it's been about 6 months since my last post.
what a world of shit i am in now.. some of you may recall a thread i started on my problems with my wife found here at http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=24462&site=3 .
a little update first.
apostateman:
As I promised, here are some links for you:
Separated Parenting Access and Resource Center (SPARC)
This site is massive! And is great for all separating parents concerned with difficult custody situations. The site is geared towards men.
If you only visit one site for information on the custody process with an unstable spouse, this is the one to visit.
http://www.deltabravo.net/custody/
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The Parenting Evaluation:
This guide walks you through the entire process of parental and psychological evaluations .
http://www.deltabravo.net/custody/guide.htm
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a web site devoted to connecting you to the most valuable and comprehensive divorce related information on the internet. You will find helpful and supportive information about divorce, child custody, child support, visitation, modifications, separation, alimony - spousal support, divorce laws, statutes
http://www.divorcesupport.com/
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Barbara C. Johnson's large site for false abuse allegation legal support
The site focuses on collecting the most recent legal precedents and relevant cases.
Barbara also offers a
cheap fee-based question-answering service
http://www.falseallegations.com/
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American Coalition for Fathers & Childrens Legal Database:
A large collection of precedent cases for your lawyer to use:
http://www.acfc.org/html/legal.htm
This site contains family law and child custody attorneys for every state and every county in the U.S.
http://www.childcustodyattorney.net/
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Finding a Father Friendly Attorney:
The National Fathers Resource Center website:
http://www.fathers4kids.org/html/Professionals.htm
Good luck!!!!
xenawarrior
it's been about 6 months since my last post.
what a world of shit i am in now.. some of you may recall a thread i started on my problems with my wife found here at http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=24462&site=3 .
a little update first.
I'm sorry that you have to deal with all of this crap!!
Get out a notebook and start documenting EVERYTHING. It might sound tedious or petty but it is invaluable later on when there is a problem and you try recalling events and who said what and what the circumstances were etc. Unfortunately, you are now at war. And you are up against a ruthless opponent. From what I can gather, your wife is a shoe-in as a JW so they don't need to concentrate on keeping her but they will concentrate on making your children good dubs for the next generation. The fact that, in their eyes, you may be an obstacle to that will only result in the re-doubling of their efforts. And they'll do it all costs.
Do whatever you can to establish visitation with your children. You are their father and you have rights. And set it up with a court order specifying times that are yours. She will then not be able to change things at her whim. Don't let them put something in there about visitation such as "reasonable visitation upon reasonable notice" because then what is "reasonable" will be up to her discretion and from the sounds of it she WILL mess with that. You'll only end up in court again later to change that to keep her from playing games. Work out a schedule that you are able to keep up with and be specific about it "apostateman will have visitation on these days and these hours of the week" etc. And once that has been established, stick to it come hell or high water on your part and keep track of that as well. If there is a party or something in your life you'd like to participate in and it means changing your scheduled visitation with them, don't do it.
You want to establish in reality that you are very involved in their lives. Attend as many of their school functions as you are able. Volunteer for school activities as a "parent supervisor" Call the school and request a copy of everything relating to your children that is sent to their mother. Arrange for your own parent/teacher conferences with your kids' teachers. You don't have to wait for the courts to decide anything for much of that to be put into place and the schools are accustomed to it. But you have to make the request. There isn't anything she can do to stop you from being involved in this way and if she tries to object it will only serve to show her true motives in the end. And it's win-win because you get to spend more time involved in your children's lives. (With all of this I'm assuming that they are enrolled in public school- and not home schooled- if they are- that may be another area to fight in the divorce proceedings)
The other thing I would suggest is to keep a close eye on your children whenever you are with them. How do they seem? Are they happy and well adjusted or do they seem troubled? Your soon-to-be-ex in-laws have, by your own words, stooped to slandering your family on paper, it will not be beneath them then to slander you to your own children. Watch for signs of this and document everything on this as well. Later if there is a need to elicit the assistance of services designed to protect children, your documentation will be invaluable.
Her JW parents have been acting any thing but Christian. I can't believe the levels they have stooped to. I just received my wifes response through the court yesterday, all 82 pages worth. Yes, 82 pages. Her mom and dad both make declarations that are out of this world. I have never seen so many lies told at one time. There is also slander towards my family which they will be sued for.
I sent an email to my wife explaining a couple of various things on Sept. 12th. I also had put in there that the JW cult has been the backbone for many of our problems. With all the research I have done on this organization I came up with only one conclusion: That this is a Satanic Cult. Her and her family have put that email into declarations and say that the JW religion is anything but Satanic. Her mother states that "Most EDUCATED people know that we are not "Satanic"...".
If you have filed for divorce, you may not want to be in contact with your wife through any other means than through your attorney. Too much can be twisted and skewed. And if you establish this even by putting it in writing to her through your attorney, and then stick to it (other than contact regarding the children) then later if she decides to fabricate something, she won't have much credibility with the judge.
I know that this stuff all makes you angry and rightfully so. Ignore what her parents declarations are-I can imagine the judge will.
You will not convince your wife of anything regarding the JW religion. Stop trying. They are lost to it. Focusing on that will only serve to irritate you further and if they were going to agree with you they already would. Hard to let go perhaps but you have bigger fish to fry- protecting your children and ensuring an involved relationship with them. Try to detach from the rest and concentrate on what you need to to to make that happen.
Be prepared for anything. Smear campaigns are already in full swing. Take the high road and don't participate in it. I've got some links for you about that and as soon as I can locate them again, I'll repost.
All the best to you - good luck with all of this.
xenawarrior
goodbye everybody.
i have enjoyed my time here for the most part.
i have made some great friends and a few not so great enemies.
(((((((((((((((((((((((Robyn))))))))))))))))))))))
You know where to find me, my friend. Thank you for everything!!
XW
the answer to that question is yes!!
we always want the easy way out , a pill, a religion , a shrink to make us happy.no one can make you happy but you.start taking control of your own life and your own brain and stop depending on others.
xena posted this the other day.
larc---- Mim has reached her posting limit and begged me to post this for her:
......... runs across room with arms outstretched and plants a really great kiss on his lips the monitor.
....... takes a sip of rum and coke poured by bartender daughter and asks soulmate, "want one?"
Mim, of the "glad I could be of help and keep you from blowing your head off with your father's 45 (gun that is).. class"
XW- of the "I'm just the messenger" class
first someone goes and makes a mockery of depression by saying that one can "will" oneself out of it.
after reading that and having been in a severe depression in the past... i just about hit the roof.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=36736&site=3 .
I just want to clarify something. The thread that Crystal linked in her post is mine.
I want to make it very clear that I do not believe that depression is something that one can "think away". Depression is very real and very incessant and can totally immobilize people. For folks who battle this it is belittling to say some of the things which have been said and I want to make it clear that I do not agree with this.
The article that I posted was about Emotional Memory Management and I posted it to maybe help folks with some of the very real PTSD stuff. It explains alot about how we remember things. The article also does not say some of the things that have been said here.
Just want to make sure I'm not being "understood" in a way I don't believe for something I posted that someone else used as and example of something I don't believe in.
XW
i couldn't let wt do all the braggin about the chillerins so here's ms.frances of the "center point kindergarden" class...this is a digital photo of a regular photo so please excuse the quality.... .
sincerely,.
district overbeer.
Look at the beautiful face in the picture. Then look at the face in the profile. Identical. Your Ms. Frances looks just like you Travis!
Beautiful!
Now get that backpack off her back and onto some wheels
XW
here is a link to a really good article on boundaries: .
http://www.phenomenalwomen.com/cbd/art/11.htm.
part 2 is here: .
Here is a link to a really good article on boundaries:
http://www.phenomenalwomen.com/cbd/art/11.htm
Part 2 is here:
http://www.phenomenalwomen.com/cbd/art/12.htm
XW
Edited by - xenawarrior on 16 September 2002 2:15:38