If, The best way to live = shunning family members, fomenting homophobia, no higher learning, dead end jobs, celibacy for single people, not celebrating birthdays, and on and on and on ....
I don't think so.
how many times did you hear that gem?
it often went along with "the truth is a protection" which is their way of saying "living a moral life is good for you ... and you can't do that without us".. but think about what people are really saying.
i think the real message is "i know it's not the truth, but i chose to follow it anyway".. it seems like a pre-emptive argument because they know they can't defend it as "the truth" so instead they switch to defending it as a lifestyle.. of course any kind of lifestyle that has a decent moral ingredient to it, respect for law and order, discipline etc... probably increases people's chances of doing better in life, but they don't have a monopoly on it.. so just remember, next time you hear someone saying "even if it's not the truth" what they are really admitting is that they already know it isn't..
If, The best way to live = shunning family members, fomenting homophobia, no higher learning, dead end jobs, celibacy for single people, not celebrating birthdays, and on and on and on ....
I don't think so.
i've listened to quite a few but for some reason, this one has me really angry.. my heart goes out to the young family dealing with this bull shite.. give a listen.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifkpiqigq9c.
"You've been disfellowshipped for apostasy, we have a few Scriptures we'd like to share with you ... "
"Here's out letters."
Beautiful
There are hundreds of thousands of people all over the earth that, even though they haven't associated with JWs in a couple of decades, will rat you out if let on about your own apostasy.
what i noticed during the memorial is the over organised ritual aspect.
for a non jw is must be hard to follow.. for me, i noticed that during the memorial there is no attention for the historical jesus and the historical events.
it's all about the kingdom arrangement with it's central point, the governing body of jw.. do you noticed this also?.
Once I got a few years of pioneering under my belt I stopped asking Bible Students to come to the memorial. I wanted to put off the whole "god needs 144000 humans to judge other humans cause He can't relate to being human" bullshit that I hated talking to students about.
1987 attended the memorial for the first time, and the last time?
2016. it was a big step for me to not go last night i'm convincing myself that i really do have the strength to never return to this living nightmare of a religion.
you may recall i'm a fader my last meeting was 9 months ago and i have deflected a number of attempted visits and dozens of phone calls they now just hang up on my answering machine, as a matter of fact they did it again this morning.
"this living nightmare of a religion"
Well said, kudos, well said.
i guess at this point in time and space i'm ok if there's an indication of things going in the right direction.. my jw father, who joined the jws in 1973 when i was 8, has always had all the characteristics of the stereotypical brainwashed born again weirdo.
as a jw he always felt the need to show that he was more devoted than the rest of the crop.
to him, life became very easy from that point on: "the bible", interpreted by the millions of wt publications, along with the information in the meetings and getting involved in all jw activities, were the answer to everything and anything in his life".
Thank you for posting.
I'm getting prepared to "leave", have discussed taking the "high road", and wonder what that looks like. This gives me a glimpse.
blondie’s comments you will not hear at the april 9, 2017 wt study (february 2017) (purpose).
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-february-2017/gods-purpose-will-be-fulfilled/.
excellent general website: www.jwfacts.com .
"Further, Satan made this false promise: “You will be like God, knowing good and bad.”"
Actually this was a true promise, the became like God, according to God.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-04-03/top-obama-adviser-sought-names-of-trump-associates-in-intel.
what can we make of this?
rice is on record being a racist and lying about benghazi, now this?
Trump good Obama bad.
Those people that say that Obama was just another center right career politician and Trump is more imbecile than politician just aren't very smart.
(original version posted 2014).
notice: the following is submitted in full recognition of and with compassion and due respect for those who, due to personal circumstance, feel they are unable to employ this powerful strategy.. ---.
anyone who has awakened to ttatt and has conscientiously left the organization--especially a once-prominent, highly-regarded, studious true-believer from a celebrated multi-generational tribe of jws-- after decades of devout, high-profile "serve-us," who continues to put in an annual appearance at the memorial thoroughly subverts and undermines, by this one act, any hope s/he may entertain that his/her departure will stir family or former friends to question the whole watchtower bamboozle.
Great OP thanks for re-posting. This year's memorial will be my last.
interpret john 1:1 by john 1:1. .
the greek language has the definite article which has approximately thirty variations, is translated into english as “the”, and points to an identifiable personality, someone we have prior knowledge of.
but the greek language has no indefinite article corresponding to the english “a”, or “an”.
Too bad there was never any explicit explanation of the nature of the god of the bible anywhere in it. Like to read an irrelevant diatribe by Bildad or Zophar? No problem, you got entire chapters. Want to read extensively about the actual nature of God? Sorry, nothing but bank shots and hints.
march 2, 2017 to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory re: broadcast events held in kingdom halls.
For the record "best wishes" is TOTALLY DIFFERENT from "good luck".
*eyes roll