David Splane vs Matt Dillahunty
That would be an entertaining debate.
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If An Organization Really Believed It Had the Truth...
by xjwsrock in....it would not be scared of critics.
actually they would naturally take an offensive stance, wouldn't they?
they would welcome debate... even encourage it.
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Printing presses, bye... bye...
by sp74bb inbye... bye.... no more new printing presses for jw.org... the growth is so tremendous (irony...).. all printing work in europe will be arrange in the next month only in selters (germany), but no renovation or upgrading in printing presses is expected... it will be a full outsourcing :).
a worldly company axel s******* will be used.
this company is known to be printing bild newspaper... the interesting part of it is the logistics will be as well outsourced.
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OneGenTwoGroups
Outsourcing printing is probably cheaper than in-house printing now.
It's always been hard for the Treasury's bean counters to put an exact cost on publication production at Bethels around the world because so many expenses cannot help but be co-mingled with factory/printery costs.
My opinion: The lower the ratio of Bethelite to publisher the better. Bethel creates JW zealots better than any else.
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Using the depression card: Only when critical to family?
by JWdaughter ini just was reading a thread and it occurred to me that "using" depression as a way to deflect from wt obligations is a mistake.
it feeds their sense of superiority-because when you do finally leave or get kicked out, they will say how leaving jehovah ruins lives.
they won't do anything with you anymore in any case, but why feed their delusions?.
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OneGenTwoGroups
Depends what your goal is. If you wish to be dfd for apostasy, go ahead and show the elders/nazis how happy you are about leaving.
If your goal is to try to help others leave as you are leaving play ANY card you want. The cult is a cause of depression itself, not a manager of it. In my true believing elder years (I had 14 of them), I couldn't have cared less about WHY you weren't active, just the fact that you were and were already property of Satan.
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Born Twice - Die Once .... Born Once - Die Twice
by Perry injesus taught that we must die unto ourselves, and allow the holy spirit to take up residence within us.
some people get saved by simply inviting jesus into their hearts, to be the lord of their life.
this serves as a countering force within the born-again christian to counterbalance the will of the flesh, which is still unsaved in this life and destined for destruction in imitation of our lord himself.. attempting to live the christian life without having this spirit within you is a waste of time at the minimum, and dangerous on the downside.
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OneGenTwoGroups
Hey Perry!
Do two overlapping births make one life?
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Sometimes I feel like I Should Believe something...
by freemamaof3 inhas anyone else felt like they should believe something after leaving wt?
i am an agnostic atheist and its so so hard for me to believe in a god or higher power.
it just doesn't make sense.
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I like it when I find my fellow cult fleers educating themselves about epistemology. Too few ever have. -
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Message from Designer Stubble to the former JWR members
by Designer Stubble inmessage from designer stubble to the former jwr members.
first of all i am glad to see that many of you have found your way to this great forum, facilitated by simon.
i am sure that after the dust of the jwr shutdown has settled, you will find this to be a good new home.. i would like to apologize for the sudden closure of jwr.
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OneGenTwoGroups
All organizations need exit strategies for key members and the organization itself, especially ones that wish to support fragile people in hellish curcumstances.
As Moxie, the founder of JWR, handed off to Rifter, perhaps Rifter should do (should have done?) something similar.
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Message from Designer Stubble to the former JWR members
by Designer Stubble inmessage from designer stubble to the former jwr members.
first of all i am glad to see that many of you have found your way to this great forum, facilitated by simon.
i am sure that after the dust of the jwr shutdown has settled, you will find this to be a good new home.. i would like to apologize for the sudden closure of jwr.
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OneGenTwoGroups
One of the first things I thought when I got wind of the plug being pulled:
"Oh shit! Fugue's posts!"
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Jehovah's Witness Recovery is no more...
by TimeBandit ini just tried to go to the site and there is a goodbye message.
i was a member there since 2010. i was really surprised.
i had just started posting there again after being away for a while.
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OneGenTwoGroups
I'm feeling betrayed right now. Not that I have been, but that's how I feel.
This will be discussed on JW Escape's next podcast.
We will also be dicussing the xxJW thing.
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Supreme Court Of Russia bans Jehovah's Witnesses as an 'extremist organization'
by EdenOne inread the news here.
the jehovah's witnesses lost their appeal to the supreme court of russia.
bethel to be liquidated.. i bet the gb saw this coming ... here comes the persecution complex paranoia.
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OneGenTwoGroups
If you are a group that discourages voting, military service, and other forms of civic service, you should at least have your tax exemption revoked, or banned.
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JWs exist because...
by oldskool inone sentence answers only.. here's mine:.
jws exist because people want an escape from the modern world and are willing to give up intellectual freedom to get it..
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OneGenTwoGroups
childhood indoctrination into supernatural belief opens the door for all kinds of bullshit.