Posts by OneGenTwoGroups

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Candace Owens interviews Douglas Murray

by LoveUniHateExams in

yeah, so the candace owens show is apparently in london and douglas murray is the person interviewed.. they cover a range of topics that are current and connected to murray's new book (the madness of crowds: gender, race and identity).. i've not got his new book but it seems to be good.

owens and murray both make good points and it's a joy to listen to them together.. enjoy .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4o9yqrby9q.

OneGenTwoGroups

Candace Owens .... yeah, we're at Candace Owens now.

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Islam is RIGHT about Women

by Simon in

apparently someone put this short message on posters and it's driving people mad because they don't know how they are supposed to react to it.. do you agree or disagree?

is it insulting women, islam, both or neither?.

it's a clever sign and really shows up the cognitive dissonance of the lefts identity politics.. https://johnmarksays.com/blog/2019/9/24/islam-is-right-about-women-the-best-meme-of-2019.

OneGenTwoGroups

...but how can it be "anti-religious" and yet coddle Islam at the same time?

That's the cool thing about playing with labels and definitions, while not addressing ideas or concepts AT ALL, it can be anything, but especially the boogie man you need it to be.

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retrospect on yesterday's wt "study" 29.

by waton in

go- teach.

par.1 : marching orders given to 500 attendees, none of them anointed, but 11 partakers, jesus taught and served people with an "earthly hope" and the commission to go was not as wt now claims a mandate to the gb members; the os only being supposed supporters.

4) new disciple stops drinking.

OneGenTwoGroups

IF twelve tribes of Israel = rest of mankind

does that mean that

judge = give back rub ???

Words in "holy" books, absolutely useless

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Do you enjoy critical research ?

by Introvert 2 in

question, are you open to and enjoy doing critical research ?.

as a trades person with little education other than being a high school vocational graduate in machine shop tech.

1980 and now a small business owner i find proper research to be essential.

OneGenTwoGroups

Fundamental rights like freedom of association, speech, private property - all are optional to the left.

If that is the case, I'm definitely not "left" leaning at all, I must be full "right", and what is more, I've never talked to a single person that is "left".

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Do you enjoy critical research ?

by Introvert 2 in

question, are you open to and enjoy doing critical research ?.

as a trades person with little education other than being a high school vocational graduate in machine shop tech.

1980 and now a small business owner i find proper research to be essential.

OneGenTwoGroups

Of all the authoritarian regimes of the last 100 years, how many have been secular and how many have been religious? Mao, Pol Pot, Soviet Union, Hitler even - these were all secular in nature, were they not?

As Hitch reminded audiences many times and schooled religious devotees about is obvious in history books around the world ... the people that did the bidding of these evil leaders were religious, they weren't secular. Sorry, parroting Christian fundamentalist talking points / propaganda to hate on atheism with doesn't work on me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aKuJ1vwMWk

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Do you enjoy critical research ?

by Introvert 2 in

question, are you open to and enjoy doing critical research ?.

as a trades person with little education other than being a high school vocational graduate in machine shop tech.

1980 and now a small business owner i find proper research to be essential.

OneGenTwoGroups

I think pronouns are stupid, I think most people do. I think wanting to give the government power to prosecute you for refusing to use someone else's invented words is more cult-like and dangerous than objecting and wanting the freedom to use established language.

Pronouns are just parts of the English language. I'm not advocating for government agents forcing you to say "shim" at gunpiont. Never have, never will. Ben Shapiro on the other hand, he uses THEY in the neuter sense in tweets, then later proclaims that neuter "they"s are of the Devil. Why? Because he's an idiot.

If I say my pronouns are: "fa**ot & ni**er". Should the government force you to use them?

Not sure if you know what a pronoun is: he, she, they. Those are pejoratives, that people use on marginalized groups to hate and cause pain, to bully, to feel better and superior about themselves. Someday, if I ever argue for government enforced use of certain pronouns, shoot me.

Who's the fool?

Ben Shapiro

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Do you enjoy critical research ?

by Introvert 2 in

question, are you open to and enjoy doing critical research ?.

as a trades person with little education other than being a high school vocational graduate in machine shop tech.

1980 and now a small business owner i find proper research to be essential.

OneGenTwoGroups

There's a different between having personal beliefs, choosing what you do and don't support and bringing the power of government to enforce your views and push your opinions on others.

What's going to happen to the UK if it becomes Muslim majority in the future? Do you think that the personal beliefs of the Muslims might impact the laws at some point? I'm concerned about people's personal beliefs AND governmental law, because one impacts the other. Sam Harris takes a lot of heat for trying to make this point with people, but Ben Affleck and others just won't have it.

What should it be? Do you want to be forced to attend a wedding you don't want to? Maybe a transgender event has the power to force you to attend and bring a gift? No thank you ...

Not sure how you get from Shapiro's belief/value that Jews marrying non-Jews is not a good thing ... to him being dragged in handcuffs to weddings. Him not going isn't the problem, it's the REASON he's not going that is. Why would I not got to a gay wedding? Because I wasn't invited, I'm sick, I'm at a different wedding, I personally don't like the dude one of the dudes is marrying, could be many reasons, BUT if it's because Yahweh says so ... well .. that freaking sucks, it's a bad reason. Mandates from men claiming supernatural authority aren't the best place to get ideas from.

You should be allowed to attend or not attend whatever you personally want, for whatever reason you want - sexuality, color, religion, you name it. Are you arguing that the government should be able to remove that choice? Do you think that they will only limit your right to attend things, not the right for those events themselves to happen?

Shapiro shouldn't be forced at gunpoint by federal agents to attend his daughter's wedding to a non-Jew. I 100 percent agree. The government shouldn't have that authority. My point is about Shapiro's JW-like stance on mixed marriages, it sucks.

Actually, most of the marriage limitations were imposed by the democrats. The reason you need a license from the government to marry is because they didn't want mixed race marriages. That is government control, the fascist / socialist / islamist / zionist end of the spectrum.

I grew up in East Texas, third generation, I know who's historically hated mixed marriages around here brother. No need to try to Dinesh D'Souza me and pretend that the Southern Strategy is a myth. But then again, labels aren't important, I hate the corrupt DNC. It's about ideas, beliefs, and values. Christian fundamentalists do they exert control over the government here at all? How about that National Prayer Breakfast thing huh? Hmmmm

That seems like a good thing. Casinos are not known for bringing benefits to communities - they are often temples of sleaze and money laundering.

I took my mom to play the slots in Louisiana last year, we weren't required to perform any sex acts while we were in there. Money laundering? That's what we have banks for. But we know why they are illegal, it's the same freaking reason that gambling is a judicial matter in the JW cult. Religion dictating law, infringing on my rights.

It's not about absolutes - small government is not about no government (except at the extremes of libertarianism). Some rules are still required and sometimes some things are allowed or not allowed and the boundaries have to be constantly re-considered to reflect what's best for society.

Government happens whether it is formalized or not in any tribe. Small government is a meaningless term used by politicians to sound like their heart is in the right place. Government regulations/protections should evolve with new evidence and accumulated knowledge. People's whose values are determined by superstition are at a disadvantage, they're programmed to not want more information. I think we mostly agree here.

Yeah, Sunday trading laws are stupid and should be done away with, but they are easy and low-intrusive things to work around.

How did these stupid blue laws come to be? Men, allowing religious tradition to inform their law writing. That's the heart of the problem. That's what I'm posting about here. Bad ideas arising from superstition and enforced on others through law. Blurred lines between church and state is what I hate.

These are low-intensity issues, compared to having the state control important aspects of your life.

The state of Texas is currently controlling my life at 11:55 on Sunday, waiting for the the register to strike 12:00, so my baseball beer can be rang up. Why? Small minded religious people want to keep it that way. Are they preventing me from marrying a dude? no But do they wish they could, hell yes.

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Do you enjoy critical research ?

by Introvert 2 in

question, are you open to and enjoy doing critical research ?.

as a trades person with little education other than being a high school vocational graduate in machine shop tech.

1980 and now a small business owner i find proper research to be essential.

OneGenTwoGroups

People don't roll dice to create laws MMM, they do it based on their values. Ben Shapiro's values suck as do most of his ideas. Have you seen the latest blunder of his on the "they" pronoun? He's a religiously bigoted fool.

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Do you enjoy critical research ?

by Introvert 2 in

question, are you open to and enjoy doing critical research ?.

as a trades person with little education other than being a high school vocational graduate in machine shop tech.

1980 and now a small business owner i find proper research to be essential.

OneGenTwoGroups

Ben Shapiro has stated he will not attend a Jew / Non-Jew wedding. The same way a JW won't go to a JW/non-JW wedding. This type of value system is what I'm trying to get away from, religious bigotry. Shapiro is an idiot.

If you're an exJW that likes Ben Shapiro, you're a cult hopper, plain and simple.

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Do you enjoy critical research ?

by Introvert 2 in

question, are you open to and enjoy doing critical research ?.

as a trades person with little education other than being a high school vocational graduate in machine shop tech.

1980 and now a small business owner i find proper research to be essential.

OneGenTwoGroups

"A more useful model is from state control to libertarian as that groups the high-control ideologies all together as they work and act in the same way - fascism, islam, communism are really all the same, not "left" and "right". It's high control vs freedom. People equate "conservatism" with being "right" but it's not, it's just further away from the high control / big government (often viewed as "left")."

Conservatives always wish to control your social life, at the highest level, by law. Whom can you marry? Poor Ben Shapiro, still boycotts inter-religious marriages. You know, "the cool kids philosopher". It wasn't conservatives that wished for people the freedom to intermarry, whether that be race, religion, or sex. Conservatives have their divinely revealed morals and pass laws so that everyone else must live by their ideology.

Can you open a casino in Texas? Sorry, conservatives still have that outlawed.

Can you buy beer on Sundays before noon in Texas? Sorry, conservatives still have that outlawed.

Can you buy nails along with wood on Sundays in Texas? Conservatives finally let us do that in the 80s.

Is a trillion dollar per year military big government to a conservative? Nope. Is single payer healthcare big government? Absofreekinglutely. If you wish to kill people, we'll open up our wallets (socialized military expenses yum yum), if you wish to save lives, take a hike, you're on your own buddy.

The reality is for American government, we have the Ds and Rs. And historically both parties suck. The rich buy off politicians in both parties. eg Henry Cuellar. It's like Yankee fans and Dodger fans in a brawl, and the Yankees are owned by the same dude as the Dodgers. The owner sit's back, enjoys watching the fight, but mostly loves how the money keeps rolling in.

Even though Dave Rubin might be dumber than dirt, his "talking about ideas" mantra I really like. Putting the "high control" or "libertarian" label on a group doesn't seem to help either. It's the ideas and values that the group/party promotes that should be discussed.

In the neck of the woods that I live in, being an atheist is not something you would want to advertise, so I don't have the bumper sticker. Atheist means something evil to most of the people around me. I'm evil. I'm other. Labels suck.