What is IT that scares the hell out of you the most about DATELINE's investigative story
It does not scare me, in fact, I welcome it as they will show the JW point of view and bring clarification to the issue.
After all, IT'S all just "apostate lies", right?
No, I do not think that it is an apostate lie. I do think that apostates are taking advantage of the situation to discredit the Witnesses. You don’t give a damn about the victims as long as it makes the Witnesses look bad. Most Elders do care about the victims. Of course there are a few assholes around the world, but Jehovah will judge them eventually without any help from humans.
If it's true that Jehovah is backing up an organization that has rules in place which protect child abusers instead of innocent children who are the victims of child abusers, then how can any honest-hearted person want ANYTHING to do with a "god" who 'backs up' such disgusting practices??
Jehovah is not backing up the “disgusting practices”. He cares for his children and that’s why he has made arrangements to wipe of all unhappiness and gives those victims hope.
Sacrificing children in this way is not something that "Jehovah" approves. This is 'a thing that He has not commanded and that had not come up into His heart'. Jeremiah 7:31
You are right, Scully. I agree completely with this statement and so do all 6 million Witnesses.
There is no amount of Theocratic War Strategy that can be used to justify even ONE pedophile's existence within "God's clean organization".
The Witnesses are not justifying the existence of pedophiles. Bad elements will infiltrate any organization and Jehovah’s organization is no exception. Jehovah does not approve of these elements, whether it be a child molester, fornicator, drunkard, murderer or any that brakes his commandments. Judicial Committees are designed to clean out these bad elements from the organization.
So, it's Jehovah who's keeping this off Dateline?
That’s not what I posted. Please reread my post. I said that Dateline would not just take Mr. Bowens word without giving the Watchtower a chance to refute his accusations.
But I have to say that a superstitious, mythology believing little soul like yourself probably deserves to get back into the WTS. You should feel at home there.
That’s a silly attempt to insult me. Try again.
Bill tried to get changes made from within.
No doubt he tried, but at some time he lost control of himself.
what do you consider to be "proof" that Jehovah God is backing the Watchtower organization?
Roybatty, be truthful, you don’t really want an answer, you’ve made your decision, live with it.
I was molested by an elder 35 years ago.
I don’t know if you are truthful or not. I’m hoping you are and if you are I’m sorry you have suffered so much.
So, in whose hands is the safety of the children, if not people like Mr. Bowen?
First in the hands of Jehovah, and secondly in the hands of their parents. Jehovah does not need Mr. Bowen to do his job. Jehovah has his own timetable for doing things.
My own father molested me while an elder throughout my teens, while I was an auxilllary and regular pioneer.
Is he still an elder? Was he disciplined by the congregation?
He is a publisher.
All witnesses are publishers.
He babysits for sisters in the KH while they are on Bible Studies.
I doubt there would be any abuse done in the Kingdom Hall. If the parents are stupid enough to leave their children with this man, after you made it public in court, well I don’t know what to say except that they’re idiots.
Do … you ever read the Bible?
Yes, I do, that’s why I have faith in Jehovah.
In Solomon's day, the Bible says, God raised up 'resisters'
because the nation was rotten. These resisters - and prophets
that were viewed as disloyal - did their work of exposure
at God's direction.
This is very true, but did those resisters leave Jehovah’s organization. Did they speak evil things about their God? Has Mr. Bowen been raised by God as a resister? Maybe he can answer that and I would like to know how he knows this.
As the daughter of a former PO and child molester, this is a sensitive issue for me. Why did the elders over 40 years ago slap my father's hand and make my sister feel guilty for provoking his attacks by the way she looked even though she was 8 years old?
I don’t know what it is that you call a “slap on his hand”. You realize that this is only your version, how could you remember the details if you were younger that “three”? Someone obviously told you their version, maybe your sister, but unless you were there your accusations against the elders are not valid.
When is a good time for Jehovah to take care of this and "clean" His Organization?
In all of the cases that you went through, the problem is not with cleaning the organization but with Jehovah getting rid of individual members that committed these atrocities. When will he eventually clean out all child molesters? Armageddon.
This is a serious discussion board.
And this was a serious message that I posted to Mr. Bowen. I am not trolling, I did not direct the post to all apostates, but only to him.
