According to the former neighbor, Robert Bryant got into an argument with a church leader over the Bible while he and his family were still living in California.
Sounds like he was an apostate. Should make you proud sickos!
i just saw this in the news this morning.
a father killed his family and them himself.
this happened in mcminnvile, oregon just outside of portland, oregon.
According to the former neighbor, Robert Bryant got into an argument with a church leader over the Bible while he and his family were still living in California.
Sounds like he was an apostate. Should make you proud sickos!
i heard this weekend that a convicted child abuser was murdered in jail.
i knew him but i don't remember his first name.
we were in the same congregation together for a few weeks.
I can understand your disbelief as this forum is just full of examples were elders screwed up with the handling of child molesters. I wanted to give a good example.
After the confession, the elders contacted the Watchtower Legal Dept. and they were told that in Texas it is law that child molesters must be reported. The elders followed this instructions and the rest is history.
This is just one small example that the system that the Witnesses have does work if the elders follow instructions and not take it on themselves to do justice.
the following is the contents of a hand-written letter i just received from my (21 year old) sister, who is getting married may 18. for some reason, i thought that she would let love and compassion be stronger than wt programming.
but i was wrong.
yeah, it sucks.. *** my question for the board ***.
JBean: You're wrong.
He is not a criminal, for God's sake!You can say that all you want, but the real truth is that he is a criminal just all apostates. He is a criminal in Jehovah's eyes. He's sister sees this, why can't he?
I'm still interested in your comments from your committee meeting. Have you decided to post them yet?I don't think I will since I am not liked in this forum. Many will use the information against me.
They belong to the people who are controlling her heart.You're right, she's controlled by Jehovah and Jesus Christ.
Yoyo, you remain an idiot.If by idiot, you mean faithful to Jehovah, well thanks dude!
the following is the contents of a hand-written letter i just received from my (21 year old) sister, who is getting married may 18. for some reason, i thought that she would let love and compassion be stronger than wt programming.
but i was wrong.
yeah, it sucks.. *** my question for the board ***.
Your sister said "Since you disassociated yourself".
That's right you knew the consequences to your actions. So what did you think would happen? That they would disrespect Jehovah is order to associate with you. Not if they want to remain faithful to God. Boo hoo now you want to be part of the family and be at the wedding. Very convenient.
Your sister adds: "you felt a lot of resentment, and I can't say that I wouln't have done the same thing. But I wish you didn't, and I pray every night that one day you'll take it back, and come back to Jehovah!"
That's not brainwashing dude, she's talking to you from her heart. I can tell her faith is strong, but in the end she'll be better off on Jehovahs side instead of yours. You have nothing to offer her but death.
Your sister then says "It's just one of the unfortunate consequences of the step you took, the life you chose. "
That's right she's telling it to you as it is. Now I know what you and your apostate friends will say "she's just brainwashed, blah blah blah". The same old excuse to everything a Witness says but the truth of the matter is that she knows what the Bible says and what Jehovah expects from her. You could learn a thing or two from your sister.
this last week, i did a short internship in a school system.
we had to do one home visit because the little girl we were going to see has been ill and has not been able to attend her early child program.
she is 3 and has a disease where half of her brain did not form and she does not have a pitutary gland.
I don't know many people that would be willing to adopt special needs children, so the work this couple is doing should be commendable. I agree with Quote that the literature does not necessarily mean that the couple are Witnesses. They could have just asked a local Witness for these copies, since it is by donation, then this couple could get the literature even if they don't have the money to pay for it.
Why shouldn't they be allowed to adopt 14 kids? If they can provide the love these children need, then more power to them.
I just know they are making him go to meetings and trying to get a kid like that to sit still. He prolly gets beat.o.k., whatever. You didn't even think of asking the couple straigh out if they were Witnesses. And what the hell is the comment about beatings about? You just have a wild imagination or a sick one!
i heard this weekend that a convicted child abuser was murdered in jail.
i knew him but i don't remember his first name.
we were in the same congregation together for a few weeks.
At least you found some info on him. I've been surfing the net and not found anything on him. Did the information you found have what prison he was at?
I knew that I might have been off on some details since I was getting info from 3rd party sources. I know for a fact that he was a baptized Witness. At the time he confessed, he was engaged to be married to a regular pioneer sister. After his confession, the elders spoke with her about what he had done. She still decided to marry him. I was not sure on the sentence, although I had a feeling it was exagerated. His wife did call a local sister and told her that he had been murdered and that sister is her best friend so I don't think she would lie.
So Messenger are you going to apologize? for saying:
This person does not exist. It is a fabrication for some twisted purpose.
i heard this weekend that a convicted child abuser was murdered in jail.
i knew him but i don't remember his first name.
we were in the same congregation together for a few weeks.
He started abusing his sisters when he was 17. His sister was 8, the other two were younger, but he would start abusing each one when they turned 8. In 1997, when he confessed, he was 24 or 25 years old.
i was just thinking that if charles taze russell were alive today he wouldn't even recognize the religion he started.
in fact, many of the things he did are now disfellowshippable offenses.
for instance, he had a christmas tree in the bethel home and he wore a beard.
Thinking everyone else is wrong
Actually, It's: no one else is doing God's Will.
Ignoring factual evidence which proves the opposite of the aboveThere is no evidence that others are doing God's Will, not as described by Jesus.
Rewriting their own history when it best suits themYou're just repeating the dribbel that apostates have thrown at you.
Blantly HypocriticalThis accusation does not surprise me one bit, I mean what is there to expect from apostates that hate Jehovah's people?
Using apostates as a scape goat whenever they have made a mistake that they cannot hide or explainWhatever.
Getting Consistantly better at controlling peoples thought processesIf by "controlling peoples thought processes" you mean promoting Bible truths and encouraging its members to do God's Will wholeheartedly, then I say they're the best!
Russel shurley could not have fortold this, what did he ever get right?Russell knew he had Jehovah's backing and that above all the scriptures should be researched to learn the truth. He never said he knew it all. He got many things right. He knew the gentile times would end in 1914. He knew that God was not part of a trinity. He knew that Jehovah does not punish evildoers by burning in hell for eternity. That's just a few obvious examples.
i was just thinking that if charles taze russell were alive today he wouldn't even recognize the religion he started.
in fact, many of the things he did are now disfellowshippable offenses.
for instance, he had a christmas tree in the bethel home and he wore a beard.
I know that yoy have to defend the man who started your high controll group,
I don't have to, but I hate people that slander others.
If any other person had done the things that he did you would not have excused them.Only if it was today and they had access to the truth.
But if you really think about it, how could sombody have such controll over a congregation numbering in the tens of thousands, and not have seriously intemidated his apposes from with in. Either that or he would ahve been able to persuade his opposers to submit to his authority, as simple as that.That is some faulty reasoning. Look at the example of Jesus. Or how about the Bible account of Moses. Russell had excellent qualities that were very attractive to others. Humbleness was one of them.
Compared with those changes the Watchtower has remained remarkably constant, whether that's good or bad.You got that right.
If Russell Were Alive Today He'd Be DF'd For: fornication, adultery. He had an affair w/ his maid. I read this at the geocities heartland website.Oh since it's at geocities heartland it must be true. They are all knowing. Give me a break!
i heard this weekend that a convicted child abuser was murdered in jail.
i knew him but i don't remember his first name.
we were in the same congregation together for a few weeks.
This person does not exist. It is a fabrication for some twisted purpose. No child molester has been murdered in a Texas Prision for the last six years.
Please do tell how you came to this conclusion.
This is a falsehood, that in this fictitious case the elders disfellowshipped someone for child abuse/molestation.Another apostate attempt at lying.