I'd be a cross breed mut.A bit of everything i think Waiting.
Posts by Zep
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33Moment of Truth/ Cognitive Dissonance
by Zep inso how long have all you guyz here been apostates anyway, just curious?.i mean, it must be kind of cool to reflect and think...."well, heck, i'm a damned freaking apostate" or altleast a closet apostate, of which most of you are, i think?, right?.yeah, such a cool label is "apostate" huh!.but i'm interested, just how did all here personnally come to realise 'the truth' aint really that?, what set you on that track and made you look outside the bounds of wt literature into so-called apostate areas.. and what finally convinced you that its all just a heap of nonsense?
and forced you to shockingly conclude you had been living a lie?.what did it do to you at that moment, i mean, how did you deal with this blatant self admission that the wt was wrong?
did it crack you up or what...or did you just laugh it off or something?..
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Moment of Truth/ Cognitive Dissonance
by Zep inso how long have all you guyz here been apostates anyway, just curious?.i mean, it must be kind of cool to reflect and think...."well, heck, i'm a damned freaking apostate" or altleast a closet apostate, of which most of you are, i think?, right?.yeah, such a cool label is "apostate" huh!.but i'm interested, just how did all here personnally come to realise 'the truth' aint really that?, what set you on that track and made you look outside the bounds of wt literature into so-called apostate areas.. and what finally convinced you that its all just a heap of nonsense?
and forced you to shockingly conclude you had been living a lie?.what did it do to you at that moment, i mean, how did you deal with this blatant self admission that the wt was wrong?
did it crack you up or what...or did you just laugh it off or something?..
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The fact is that it is reeeealy sad
I know Joel, i really do.I remember going to a few meetings and seeing an old lady who lives near me and she had obviously been converted and believed it all.Back then i thought Dubs where pretty spot on with their biblical views, you'd never get me speak against them.BUT...a few months ago i drove past her on a Tue or Thurs night...she was waiting to be picked up by some dubs to go off to one of her meetings.I had been reading heaps of Anti Christian and anti Dub stuff at the time.When i saw just standing there, she's well into her 70's BTW...i just realised how hopless it all was and shes hoping in a lie.That was kind of sad.She's at the end of her life hoping to taken off to paradise real soon and its isn't going to happen...atleast not the way dubs say!
Path, No fosters down here...its more Victorian Bitter for me.Maybe some home brew...we made some a couple of years, it turned out OK apart from the lumpy bits of yeast, but you scoop them out with your spoon!.
King cans huh!, is that what you call them...they call 'em Tubes down here.Australia is divided into 2 halves, North and South...like the U.S.I'm in the south, where we drink different beer and play different sport.In north they play Rugby League and south its Aussie Rules.And theres a different beer for each sport.
BTW, lots of beer drinking will be happening tommorow down here...its Grand final day for Aussie rules.Its like Super Bowl Sunday only happens on Saturday.
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Moment of Truth/ Cognitive Dissonance
by Zep inso how long have all you guyz here been apostates anyway, just curious?.i mean, it must be kind of cool to reflect and think...."well, heck, i'm a damned freaking apostate" or altleast a closet apostate, of which most of you are, i think?, right?.yeah, such a cool label is "apostate" huh!.but i'm interested, just how did all here personnally come to realise 'the truth' aint really that?, what set you on that track and made you look outside the bounds of wt literature into so-called apostate areas.. and what finally convinced you that its all just a heap of nonsense?
and forced you to shockingly conclude you had been living a lie?.what did it do to you at that moment, i mean, how did you deal with this blatant self admission that the wt was wrong?
did it crack you up or what...or did you just laugh it off or something?..
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So how long have all you guyz here been Apostates anyway, just curious?.I mean, it must be kind of cool to reflect and think...."Well, heck, i'm a damned freaking Apostate" or altleast a closet Apostate, of which most of you are, i think?, right?.Yeah, Such a cool label is "Apostate" huh!.
This part was supposed to be kind of sarcastic BTW.'Such a cool label is apostate huh'= what a load of bollocks, what a load of crap!.I mean, for label its such a joke, it shouldn't have any impact all...it so lame and atiquated.No one outside dubs would even know what it means...but...it does.....Labels negate thinking.Why is someone going to hell, its because they are an Apostate.Why is a religion bad, because its a cult etc etc.
I'm a dog BTW...a worldy dog.Dubs would probably call me that and think its an insult....but i like it.
I'm a damn dog.Probably off to hell from the things i've said here, off to the 2nd death...yippie! oh well, what can you do!
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GTR
by Zep ini've almost finished gtr, just finished reading jw ideas on the 70yr prophecy in 'let thy kingdom come'.seriously, i read most of the 1914 stuff over at osarsif a few months back...and that was pretty good.but coj, hes blow the gentile times right out of the water, utterly destroys it.
i use to me amazed at the 7 times interpretation of jw's, it was proof to me that they had the truth or the answers as far as the bible is concerned, what a joke...unbelievable.i get the feel from reading this book that the 1914 stuff is just bound to topple in the next ten years.after reading this book (almost) its just incomprehensible to me how dubs could hold onto it.the head hunchos in brooklyn must be aware of this book, some of them must have read it?....they must be aware of how stupid their interpretions are.but then again.... i think, when they get rid of this date 1914 ....they will find it even harder to convert people, as if it isn't hard enough.1914 gives them a powerful tool, they can say 'we predicted the future' therefore we are gods chosen, its one of the things that captured my imagination when i was a kid and made me pay attention to them than i should have.....same too, with a friend of mine who has recently fallen in with them.i think its converting power is very powerful and would rank highly in the converts mind just going by personnal experience.without it they will not have the same power unless they can find a new prophecy to hold up as proof of divine approval.
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Waiting,
Gentile times reconsidered!
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GTR
by Zep ini've almost finished gtr, just finished reading jw ideas on the 70yr prophecy in 'let thy kingdom come'.seriously, i read most of the 1914 stuff over at osarsif a few months back...and that was pretty good.but coj, hes blow the gentile times right out of the water, utterly destroys it.
i use to me amazed at the 7 times interpretation of jw's, it was proof to me that they had the truth or the answers as far as the bible is concerned, what a joke...unbelievable.i get the feel from reading this book that the 1914 stuff is just bound to topple in the next ten years.after reading this book (almost) its just incomprehensible to me how dubs could hold onto it.the head hunchos in brooklyn must be aware of this book, some of them must have read it?....they must be aware of how stupid their interpretions are.but then again.... i think, when they get rid of this date 1914 ....they will find it even harder to convert people, as if it isn't hard enough.1914 gives them a powerful tool, they can say 'we predicted the future' therefore we are gods chosen, its one of the things that captured my imagination when i was a kid and made me pay attention to them than i should have.....same too, with a friend of mine who has recently fallen in with them.i think its converting power is very powerful and would rank highly in the converts mind just going by personnal experience.without it they will not have the same power unless they can find a new prophecy to hold up as proof of divine approval.
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I've almost finished GTR, just finished reading JW ideas on the 70yr prophecy in 'Let Thy kingdom come'.Seriously, i read most of the 1914 stuff over at osarsif a few months back...and that was pretty good.But COJ, hes blow the gentile times right out of the water, utterly destroys it. I use to me amazed at the 7 times interpretation of JW's, it was proof to me that they had the truth or the answers as far as the bible is concerned, what a joke...unbelievable.I get the feel from reading this book that the 1914 stuff is just bound to topple in the next ten years.After reading this book (almost) its just incomprehensible to me how Dubs could hold onto it.The head hunchos in Brooklyn must be aware of this book, some of them must have read it?....they must be aware of how stupid their interpretions are.But then again...
I think, when they get rid of this date 1914 ....they will find it even harder to convert people, as if it isn't hard enough.1914 gives them a powerful tool, they can say 'we predicted the future' therefore we are Gods chosen, its one of the things that captured my imagination when i was a kid and made me pay attention to them than i should have.....Same too, with a friend of mine who has recently fallen in with them.I think its converting power is very powerful and would rank highly in the converts mind just going by personnal experience.Without it they will not have the same power unless they can find a new prophecy to hold up as proof of divine approval. -
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Moment of Truth/ Cognitive Dissonance
by Zep inso how long have all you guyz here been apostates anyway, just curious?.i mean, it must be kind of cool to reflect and think...."well, heck, i'm a damned freaking apostate" or altleast a closet apostate, of which most of you are, i think?, right?.yeah, such a cool label is "apostate" huh!.but i'm interested, just how did all here personnally come to realise 'the truth' aint really that?, what set you on that track and made you look outside the bounds of wt literature into so-called apostate areas.. and what finally convinced you that its all just a heap of nonsense?
and forced you to shockingly conclude you had been living a lie?.what did it do to you at that moment, i mean, how did you deal with this blatant self admission that the wt was wrong?
did it crack you up or what...or did you just laugh it off or something?..
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Went to Ben Lomond Path.You wouldn't know it...its off the Ski-ing Map.There was a mini series on Noahs ark done a couple of years ago....they used Ben Lomond as Mt ARArat.Its awesome mountain, really spectacular....very rugged and unfortunately the same can be said for their ski fields...there are ROCKS everywhere, though this year has seen the best fall since 1982, so its pretty good, no rocks to crash into at the moment...only now its as icy as Hell(??? does that make sense)the surface was so hard at times when you crash you may as well driven yourself into a rock.Ben lomomd has 7 tows and vertical drop of about 50 metres maybe????.Do you ski?...anyone else?.I'd love to go to some of the Ski fields in Canada and US....theres one called Whistler? near Vancouver?????? i think!!!.Saw it on TV once and looked brilliant....no rocks to be seen, just lost of pine trees to crash into!
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Moment of Truth/ Cognitive Dissonance
by Zep inso how long have all you guyz here been apostates anyway, just curious?.i mean, it must be kind of cool to reflect and think...."well, heck, i'm a damned freaking apostate" or altleast a closet apostate, of which most of you are, i think?, right?.yeah, such a cool label is "apostate" huh!.but i'm interested, just how did all here personnally come to realise 'the truth' aint really that?, what set you on that track and made you look outside the bounds of wt literature into so-called apostate areas.. and what finally convinced you that its all just a heap of nonsense?
and forced you to shockingly conclude you had been living a lie?.what did it do to you at that moment, i mean, how did you deal with this blatant self admission that the wt was wrong?
did it crack you up or what...or did you just laugh it off or something?..
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Zep
What a fine point from the WTBTS to consider
Hey Waiting, heres another one i wish they would consider too!
'Go jump off a muddaF'ing Cliff'
Now that'd be good.All Cons really should consider it i feel!
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Moment of Truth/ Cognitive Dissonance
by Zep inso how long have all you guyz here been apostates anyway, just curious?.i mean, it must be kind of cool to reflect and think...."well, heck, i'm a damned freaking apostate" or altleast a closet apostate, of which most of you are, i think?, right?.yeah, such a cool label is "apostate" huh!.but i'm interested, just how did all here personnally come to realise 'the truth' aint really that?, what set you on that track and made you look outside the bounds of wt literature into so-called apostate areas.. and what finally convinced you that its all just a heap of nonsense?
and forced you to shockingly conclude you had been living a lie?.what did it do to you at that moment, i mean, how did you deal with this blatant self admission that the wt was wrong?
did it crack you up or what...or did you just laugh it off or something?..
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Just saw this BTW Path
"ha ha ha, I've lost x number of years living a lie and my family and friends won't speak to me. Oh well."
Well, I could tell you some shit me and my family has gone through, NO-Dub related.And I have to say, that is my exact attitude.I'm too cynical of everything, i just have to laugh.Yeah F'k God!...and the whole deal.F'k the GB and their "apostates', f'k them!...F'k all lying Assholes, they deserve nothing less than to be the bUTT of a Joke!
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Moment of Truth/ Cognitive Dissonance
by Zep inso how long have all you guyz here been apostates anyway, just curious?.i mean, it must be kind of cool to reflect and think...."well, heck, i'm a damned freaking apostate" or altleast a closet apostate, of which most of you are, i think?, right?.yeah, such a cool label is "apostate" huh!.but i'm interested, just how did all here personnally come to realise 'the truth' aint really that?, what set you on that track and made you look outside the bounds of wt literature into so-called apostate areas.. and what finally convinced you that its all just a heap of nonsense?
and forced you to shockingly conclude you had been living a lie?.what did it do to you at that moment, i mean, how did you deal with this blatant self admission that the wt was wrong?
did it crack you up or what...or did you just laugh it off or something?..
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Path...Look, things come across differently, people see things differently than the way they were meant.I'm well aware of the dammage of DFing/shunning and putting labels on people, a moron can see how damaging those things are.I dont meant to make light of it all BTW.....My opening statements were just flippant BS, As usual (tends to be my style here),but thats the way i am on the NET....I tend to Post first and think later, no harm intended!..Yeah, I tend to make stupid jokes of serious stuff...put up a fair few dumb posts.I do have too much of a who-could-give-a-shit attitude in the end.
How many fosters?...ha ha Good Question.Personally i'll let that lie since you are obviously ignorant of Australian beer drinking custom.Fosters is a shit beer, No Australian i know would drink it...maybe a few yuppies in Sydney.I'd write some more here, but i cant be stuffed because i just got back from skiing(that was cool) and i'm utter ratshit at the moment.
BTW I apologise for offending you!.I had some ideas i wanted to express here...but i was just to lazy to put into a serious post.As far as i'm concerned now, all this WTS stuff and Religion and God and Christianity.They can all go stick it up their jumper...the whole lot of them!I couldn't give a rats anymore for the dub religion...i'd love to see the whole damn structure come crashing down, that'd almost make my day at the moment.F'K 'em!...i just dont care!.
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Moment of Truth/ Cognitive Dissonance
by Zep inso how long have all you guyz here been apostates anyway, just curious?.i mean, it must be kind of cool to reflect and think...."well, heck, i'm a damned freaking apostate" or altleast a closet apostate, of which most of you are, i think?, right?.yeah, such a cool label is "apostate" huh!.but i'm interested, just how did all here personnally come to realise 'the truth' aint really that?, what set you on that track and made you look outside the bounds of wt literature into so-called apostate areas.. and what finally convinced you that its all just a heap of nonsense?
and forced you to shockingly conclude you had been living a lie?.what did it do to you at that moment, i mean, how did you deal with this blatant self admission that the wt was wrong?
did it crack you up or what...or did you just laugh it off or something?..
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So how long have all you guyz here been Apostates anyway, just curious?.I mean, it must be kind of cool to reflect and think...."Well, heck, i'm a damned freaking Apostate" or altleast a closet Apostate, of which most of you are, i think?, right?.Yeah, Such a cool label is "Apostate" huh!.But I'm interested, just how did all here personnally come to realise 'The truth' aint really that?, what set you on that track and made you look outside the bounds of WT literature into so-called Apostate areas.. and what finally convinced you that its all just a heap of nonsense? and forced you to shockingly conclude you had been living a lie?.What did it do to you at that moment, i mean, how did you deal with this blatant self admission that the WT was wrong? Did it crack you up or what...or did you just laugh it off or something?.
Edited by - Zep on 28 August 2000 5:54:1