TO CLASSICIST: To me you seem to be ignorant of the aids problem in developing countries and peoples behaviour in general.First, not everyone who gets aids is sinning or engaging in premarital sex. For example, say I'm married to someone, and that person goes off and does the dirty(adultery) behind my back. Now, I haven't done anything wrong but i could be exposed to aids. This is the case for many women in Africa. Second you seem to think that people who are sinning(pre-marital sex and adultery), wont suddenly obey the popes directive on condoms, if he suddenly allowed their use. This were you are wrong. They will. My point is that religious people ARE quite irrational. We recently had case down here in Australia, and you can check it out, involving a high profile minister in the Australian government named TONY ABBOTT (a catholic).When he was a university student he had a girl friend and they had a kid(or so he thought at the time). Abbott, at the time he was sleeping with his girlfriend (Yep,HAVING PRE_MARITAL SEX) was considering entering the priest hood. Because he was considering entering the priesthood Abbott and his girlfriend stopped using contraception but continued having pre-marital sex!!! This is how a lot of religious people DO think...They pick and choose their morality, quite amazing isn't it, but it's not uncommon. Third, not everyone is necessarily a Catholic ,or practising catholic, or a perfect Catholic in the developing world. There are certain high profile politicians etc... in these countries who, because they are Catholic, shun and/or retard programs that promote condom use to the detriment of people who arn't Catholics, or who are Catholics but just far less "perfect" than these politicians and the Pope.
Posts by Zep
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Ding Dong the Pope is dead -now heres his obituary
by Zep injust to balance all the glowing bs we seem to be getting in the media about this guy.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/pope/story/0,12272,1451750,00.html
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Ding Dong the Pope is dead -now heres his obituary
by Zep injust to balance all the glowing bs we seem to be getting in the media about this guy.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/pope/story/0,12272,1451750,00.html
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Zep
Well, classicist, you seem to be quite well read on this stuff. But, anyway. We recently had a TV show down here in Australia where a public forum was held to discuss the papal legacy. The one big complaint that came from catholics themselves was the authortarian nature of his reign. These people honestly felt like power was being taken away from the local churchs... that they had no say. This is one of the reasons cited for the decline in the catholic religion in western countries.
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Ding Dong the Pope is dead -now heres his obituary
by Zep injust to balance all the glowing bs we seem to be getting in the media about this guy.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/pope/story/0,12272,1451750,00.html
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Zep
What is the attraction with famous dead people? From Jim Morrision ,to Pricess Diana, to Pope Paul, people go crazy over them the moment they keel over and stop breathing. They become more than what they ever really were. It's just silly.
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Ding Dong the Pope is dead -now heres his obituary
by Zep injust to balance all the glowing bs we seem to be getting in the media about this guy.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/pope/story/0,12272,1451750,00.html
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Zep
Just to balance all the glowing BS we seem to be getting in the media about this guy. http://www.guardian.co.uk/pope/story/0,12272,1451750,00.html
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Rip-off of American workers continues
by Simon infiorina walks away from hp/compaq with $42m !!.
no doubt this will be averaged out so that on paper, american workers have a great average pay but in reality, a fat-cat ceo has creamed more off the top and the workers at the bottom get zip.
and all for doing a bad job!
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Zep
how would you spend 42 mil anyway. God damn, I just wouldn't know what to do with it. Maybe, Buy a third world country and a jet plane or something?????
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Is Walmart right or wrong?
by JH inhere in quebec, walmart decided to close a walmart store because the 190 employees wanted to become unionized.
walmart said that they weren't making money at that store, and that's why they are closing.
we all know that the real reason why walmart wants to close is because the employees want to be unionized.. in this day and age, do you think that walmart is right, or the employees?.
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Zep
You know, i really don't know. When Walmart says they weren't making money, it's probably the case they weren't making ENOUGH money. As far unions go, I'm all for them but they can go too far sometimes as far as wage claims go and add to inflation, which is the bogey-man for most economies these days. Unions and governments dont seem to have the power they use to have in the current global environment. Multi-nationals, I think, have too much bargaining power these days. I basically see these kinds of things in pretty simple terms: The poor are trying to raise their wages. The rich are trying to pay as little as possible, and I think they hold the upper hand as far as bargaining position is concerned these days. They really have a lot of leverage as far as putting downward pressure on wages is concerned. I'm all for profit, but excessive greed and profit I don't like, just like I don't like dirt cheap third world wages either. There has to be a balance somewhere, but at the moment it's a free for all, very competitive, with Big business holding the upper hand. You might want to get "THE COROPORATION" out on dvd. It's pretty interesting. I'm not sure they have the right answers, but it is interesting. It's left wing!
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Free trade, Globalization, good or bad?
by JH insince many years now, we hear alot about globalization.
i know that many jobs went to china and india because they work at small wages compared to here.. personally, i don't like globalization and free trade.
i t think that many jobs were lost because of it.
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Zep
ITS GOOD. TRADE IS GOOD. The division of labour is good. Self sufficiency is not possible for smaller populated countries like Australia. They have to specialise and then trade to get other goods. Trade with other countries also results in cheaper goods for industrial countries. That means more money in the pocket of the consumer to direct in more efficient areas and create more jobs. ITS BAD when rich countries are able to use their superior bargaining position to basically force poorer people to work for very unfair wages. They are faced with a stark choice of either starve or work for a crappy wage with crappy conditions. In end it is both GOOD AND BAD. It idea of trade is a very good democratic idea, and should be pursued, but it can have big problems that need sorting out. Its a complex issue.
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So what was your New Year's resolution?
by ozziepost in.
now all the partying is done with and you've had time to get back into the swing of things, what do you hope to attain this year?.
what's the thing you'd most like to do this year?
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Zep
OZZIE:Don't go much on new years resolutions but..I hope to get my plans for an accounting degree in full swing. Improve my guitar playing. Do some bushwalking, to Federation Peak maybe. And...relax, de-stress, find inner peace haha.
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Could some-one please explain American football to me!
by Zep ini get all that stuff about downs and 10yards, and about kicking the ball through the goals and all.
but, having never played gridiron/american football, there is one thing i just dont get everytime i watch the bleedin' game.
i have played australian football(aussie rules) and rugby league.
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Zep
UNDER74: The guy who throws the ball is the quater back, I think. He throws it to a running back(the guys who always tries to score a touch down)????. WHY doesn't the running back pass the ball a little more? IS it against the rules, or bad strategy, or is the running back just ball hog(greedy)?
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Charles and Camilla to marry
by Fe2O3Girl in.
about time!.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/monarchy/story/0,2763,1409742,00.html.
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Zep
You know it's all nice and cute and all and I hope they are happy, since everyone deserves to be happy. But really, everytime I see the Royal family on TV I just wish they would walk off a cliff or something. The kind of public priviledge they recieve is just a joke. Being an Australian, I hope we soon off this Royality BS and become a republic. I mean, what is the Royal family good for other than cutting ribbons and selling crappy magazines. Who gives a hoot about these people, REALLY!