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What a loving, compassionate God!
i was informed today by a jw that the watchtower doesn't use images and propaganda to instil fear.
i would really like to see a compilation of all their armageddon illustrations.
maybe a thread or web page already exists that had this content.. the one i am really wanting is the most recent picture of the witnesses in the basement during the tribulation.. this will be a massive help so thank you..
Since it's my Avatar, I'll leave this one.
What a loving, compassionate God!
i see an attitude among some people here which is not very helpful.
i can understand it, but still, it's not constructive or helpful.. if you condemn the society for not changing, but then you also condemn them when they do change in a positive way, what incentive or motive does that provide for the people at the society to ever want to change for the better?.
also, what does that attitude look like to current witnesses who are having doubts?.
What do I want the Society to do? DIE. I want the whole thing dissolved, and for everyone to be able to move on.
THESE IDEAS MUST DIE
original thread here.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/291080001/brave-high-school-student-exposes-abuse-corruption-within-jehovahs-witnesses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdvt_gyq-ls.
YES!!! I hope this gains so much attention that it is shoved into the face of every JW and the GB is not able to ignore it. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdvt_gyq-ls&feature=youtu.be.
It doesn't matter if those stories were complete fabrications - the Organization's stance on sexual assault is laid out in their literature. Sexual assault DOES occur, and when it does they DO blame the victim, and they DO NOT take action against offenders, even going so far as to try to humanize them, defend them. The Organization has stated in the past that if a women doesn't scream, she's guilty. Read the verses in Deuteronomy that this idiotic principle is based off of - this is coming from a time when a woman's only value was as a virgin.
What kind of person would stand behind that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdvt_gyq-ls&feature=youtu.be.
A very brave young woman. One of the most definitive and damning pieces of information that made me completely reject this religion is their policy toward sexual assault victims. If more people were aware of that, the Organization wouldn't survive.
the july 15, 2015 study watchtower article entitled "your deliverance is getting near", along with the jw broadcasting video entitled "gerrit losch: fortified by "the prophetic word," and chapter 21 of the god's kingdom rules!
book presented a large amount of new light or clarified understanding of the events of the great tribulation.. here i am presenting it in chronological order -- this is the governing body's updated chronological order of events for the time right before the great tribulation through armageddon:.
the final sealing of the anointed occurs just prior to the outbreak of the tribulation.
Thanks Millie210, I'll research that parable!
FusionTheism - Thanks! Great thread! I wonder if this could be a game changer? A way for them to start being accepting of more people while still being able to say, "We told you so!," at the "end."
the july 15, 2015 study watchtower article entitled "your deliverance is getting near", along with the jw broadcasting video entitled "gerrit losch: fortified by "the prophetic word," and chapter 21 of the god's kingdom rules!
book presented a large amount of new light or clarified understanding of the events of the great tribulation.. here i am presenting it in chronological order -- this is the governing body's updated chronological order of events for the time right before the great tribulation through armageddon:.
the final sealing of the anointed occurs just prior to the outbreak of the tribulation.
Wait wait wait wait wait........So can I seriously wait until after Babylon the Great has fallen and then choose to join up with no repercussions for stalling? Because that might actually be somewhat reasonable. Please someone tell me I can use this as a way to get my overbearing family off my back. Are they saying that there will be no difference in the chance of being saved if you join up now or when the judgement message is being preached?
I would love to be able to tell my MIL, " Well I'm an athiest now, but if everything works out with the predictions I'll jump on when the time comes. In the meantime, I'm gonna actually be happy and do the shit I want. Thanks."
i was raised a jehovah's witness, so i know all the "ins-and-outs" of their theology and belief system..
in my view, they can become a part of mainstream christianity and lose their cult status by making just a few changes for the better:.
1: stop their severe shunning practices.
And if they do somehow manage to become more "mainstream?" Every incremental change will be heralded as new light and gobbled up by the R&F, even as their religion becomes completely unrecognizable to those who recognize their past.
Can this religion just die already?
i saw a rumor a few weeks ago on reddit that the new imitate jesus convention is supposed to present new light and clarified understandings on the disfellowshipping/disassociation practices.. supposedly, if this rumor has any truth to it, there will be a talk given at the convention about how we should not be strict like the pharisees in how we shun people, loosening up some of the jw rules about this practice.. has anyone here heard anything about this or have more info on it?.
That would be unprecedented, but I'm highly skeptical.
I agree with xwhyzee above, I think this would cause a huge shift in awareness if suddenly JW's were able to associate on some level with their family or friends that are DF or DA without fear of punishment. This seems unlikely because it would expose current JW's to different (and most likely negative) thinking towards the Borg, and may even cause them to question why they were unable to associate before, but suddenly (on an apparent whim) they can.
Bad for the Borg, great for a lot of us here.
Therefore, unlikely.
the trial:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yveo8-ntcc.
the whole video:.
Wow.
I will definitely be watching the full film.