Is he saying at one point that he himself was once in the JWS religion ?
Mr.Finkelstein
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Joe Rogan
by Tater-T inat about the 4 minute mark joe mentions ex jehovah witnesses as being sensitive to cult indoctrination and how this is just like that.
https://youtu.be/tex8jhx4pss.
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Cults and Their Charismatic Leaders Part 1
by 1234 inpeople know of many cult leaders’ and their charismatic personalities, with their fringe beliefs and lust for power and how they have inspired hundreds to follow their unconventional philosophies — with often-tragic results.
charles manson, david koresh, jim jones, bhagwan shree rajneesh and others have gained international notoriety for exposing the dark side of humanity.. however what about the cults that went main stream.
i guess we could throw in jesus and even adolf hitler.
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Mr.Finkelstein
If the statistics prove right the JWS religion is in a downward trend in participates, such as in North America and many countries in Europe.
People in general are waking up to the fact that the Watchtower Corporation was acting as a commercialized scam for decades all throughout the 20th century.
This particular religious cult may have inherently made its own expiration date.
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Happy birthday smiddy
by smiddy3 ina young 81 ,may there be many more.. but feeling about 91 at the present time ..
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Awesome Video on debunking 1914!!!!! Follow it carefully to the end!!
by Beth Sarim ini don't know if anyone has stumbled across this video, but it just blew may away.
omg!!!
just goes to show why in dubland they adhere to the 2 witness rule so adamantly and are so anal about it.
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Mr.Finkelstein
I would argue that any annexation of Judea by Babylon could only have occurred in 621/20 BCE with the eighth year of Jehoiakim's reign with subsequent rebellion causing the 70 years in 607 BCE.
It appears you have only taken up bible scholarship studies just to back up WTS's doctrines and teachings which proves without doubt your intellectually dishonest and corrupt.
Just for those who really wanted to know about Jehoiakim ....
Jehoiakim was appointed king by Necho II, king of Egypt, in 609 BC, after Necho's return from the battle in Haran, three months after he had killed King Josiah at Megiddo.[4] Necho deposed Jehoiakim's younger brother Jehoahaz after a reign of only three months and took him to Egypt, where he died. Jehoiakim ruled originally as a vassal of the Egyptians, paying a heavy tribute. To raise the money he "taxed the land and exacted the silver and gold from the people of the land according to their assessments."[5]
However, after the Egyptians were defeated by the Babylonians at the battle of Carchemish in 605 BC, Nebuchadnezzar II besieged Jerusalem, and Jehoiakim changed allegiances to avoid the destruction of Jerusalem. He paid tribute from the treasury in Jerusalem, some temple artifacts, and handed over some of the royal family and nobility as hostages.[4]
Rabbinical literature describes Jehoiakim as a godless tyrant who committed atrocious sins and crimes. He is portrayed as living in incestuous relations with his mother, daughter-in-law, and stepmother, and was in the habit of murdering men, whose wives he then violated and whose property he seized. He also had tattooed his body.[1]
The prophet Jeremiah criticised the king's policies, insisting on repentance and strict adherence to the law.[6] Another prophet, Uriah ben Shemaiah, proclaimed a similar message and Jehoiakim ordered his execution (Jeremiah 26:20–23).[7]
Jehoiakim continued for three years as a vassal to the Babylonians, until the failure of an invasion of Egypt in 601 BC undermined their control of the area. Jehoiakim switched allegiance back to the Egyptians.[4] In late 598 BC, the Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar II invaded Judah and again laid siege to Jerusalem, which lasted three months. Jehoiakim died before the siege ended.[2] The Book of Chronicles recorded that "Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon ... bound him in fetters, to carry him to Babylon."[8] Jeremiah prophesied that he died without proper funeral, describing the people of Judah "shall not lament for him, saying, 'Alas, master!' or 'Alas, his glory!' He shall be buried with the burial of a donkey, dragged and cast out beyond the gates of Jerusalem" (Jeremiah 22:18–19) "and his dead body shall be cast out to the heat of the day and the frost of the night" (Jeremiah 36:30).[9] Josephus wrote that Nebuchadnezzar slew Jehoiakim along with high-ranking officers and then commanded Jehoiakim's body "to be thrown before the walls, without any burial."[10]
He was succeeded by his son Jeconiah (also known as Jehoiachin).[3] After three months, Nebuchadnezzar deposed Jeconiah (fearing that he would avenge his father's death by revolting, according to Josephus[11]) and installed Zedekiah, Jehoiakim's younger brother, as king in his place. Jeconiah, his household, and much of Judah's population were exiled to Babylon.[12]
According to the Babylonian Chronicles,[13] Jerusalem fell on 2 Adar (16 March) 597 BC. The Chronicles state:
The seventh year (of Nebuchadnezzar – 598 BC.) in the month Chislev (Nov/Dec) the king of Babylon assembled his army, and after he had invaded the land of Hatti (Syria/Palestine) he laid siege to the city of Judah. On the second day of the month of Adar (16 March) he conquered the city and took the king (Jeconiah) prisoner. He installed in his place a king (Zedekiah) of his own choice, and after he had received rich tribute, he sent (them) forth to Babylon.[14]
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Awesome Video on debunking 1914!!!!! Follow it carefully to the end!!
by Beth Sarim ini don't know if anyone has stumbled across this video, but it just blew may away.
omg!!!
just goes to show why in dubland they adhere to the 2 witness rule so adamantly and are so anal about it.
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Mr.Finkelstein
The Scholarly goat is trying to trick us,
a ha I knew it !
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Awesome Video on debunking 1914!!!!! Follow it carefully to the end!!
by Beth Sarim ini don't know if anyone has stumbled across this video, but it just blew may away.
omg!!!
just goes to show why in dubland they adhere to the 2 witness rule so adamantly and are so anal about it.
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Mr.Finkelstein
This has never been the case for if one has studied the history of modern archaeology right up to the present then there is a strong case for the Land of Judah been devastated for 70 years thus confirming the bible and chronology based on those facts proves 807 BCE
I see so your math says that 605 the starting year of the annexation over Judea to 537 BCE the end of the annexation is 70 years.
605 - 70 = 535 BCE
Why you lying bastard.
You sure have the Spirit of Satan in you
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Awesome Video on debunking 1914!!!!! Follow it carefully to the end!!
by Beth Sarim ini don't know if anyone has stumbled across this video, but it just blew may away.
omg!!!
just goes to show why in dubland they adhere to the 2 witness rule so adamantly and are so anal about it.
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Mr.Finkelstein
Ok if you wish to use that year then, that still leaves only 68 years not 70;
To be fair some the problem with the WTS leaders is that didn't have the secular archaeological evidence to what is present now.
...and C Russell or either J Rutherford were not academically trained bible scholars
They were not taking in all the relevant scriptures in hand and made a narrowed minded assumption that fitted their wanting doctrine of 1914.
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Awesome Video on debunking 1914!!!!! Follow it carefully to the end!!
by Beth Sarim ini don't know if anyone has stumbled across this video, but it just blew may away.
omg!!!
just goes to show why in dubland they adhere to the 2 witness rule so adamantly and are so anal about it.
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Mr.Finkelstein
Cypress's decree to release the captive Israelites came down in 538, a year after he overthrew Babylon.
So if you take the start of the annexation at 605 BCE and take 538 off that established year you derive at 67 years of annexation.
So Daniel's dream (70 Years) was close but not at all accurate.
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Awesome Video on debunking 1914!!!!! Follow it carefully to the end!!
by Beth Sarim ini don't know if anyone has stumbled across this video, but it just blew may away.
omg!!!
just goes to show why in dubland they adhere to the 2 witness rule so adamantly and are so anal about it.
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Mr.Finkelstein
How come we are the only people in the world who know the precise date for the Fall of Jerusalem?
Thats the problem they dont, they have inadvertently taken the overthrow annexation by Nebuchadnezzar over Judea/Jerusalem in time and converted that to the final deconstruction date of Jerusalem.
Historically this is false and there is a mountain of evidence to show that it is.
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Awesome Video on debunking 1914!!!!! Follow it carefully to the end!!
by Beth Sarim ini don't know if anyone has stumbled across this video, but it just blew may away.
omg!!!
just goes to show why in dubland they adhere to the 2 witness rule so adamantly and are so anal about it.
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Mr.Finkelstein
Its critical evaluation of the WTS/JWS doctrines like this is the reason why many active JWS are leaving the organization.
Scholar doesn't realize it but he is actually is assisting in this feat by coming here to defend the core doctrines of the JWS such as 607.
.....and that's why I participate myself in these debates.
We should at least thank Scholar for participating.
The WTS organization has a history of poor bible scholarship, interpreting scriptures to suit their own appealing wants, desires and perhaps needs is not true honest scholarship.
