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  Was Sin Inevitable?

  by Parker in

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  i was wondering about this question and wanted to ask: was sin inevitable?

  also, i had thought about past watchtower articles or publications related to this topic and did some research and found this from our readers ask if adam was perfect, how was it possible for him to sin?.

  well, then, did god create adam with a moral weakness, so that he lacked the ability to make sound decisions or to withstand temptation?

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  Mr.Finkelstein

  Ancient mythological stories were inevitable based upon humanity's inherent ignorance of the world the ancients lived in their time and era. ie. Adam and Eve
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  No, They Will Never Notice!

  by Atlantis in

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  2. friends

  since the watchtower has already made this bible public, i can put a link out here.. no, the rank & file will never notice the words "governing body" have been inserted into acts 15: 1-35 in the 2019 new world translation, matthew to acts.. click the image to make it larger if need be.. https://postimg.cc/sqvdl10w petra!

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  Mr.Finkelstein

  Here is a list of what many bible translations say concerning that scripture ....

  New International Version
  Then the apostles and elders, with the whole church, decided to choose some of their own men and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They chose Judas (called Barsabbas) and Silas, men who were leaders among the believers.
  
  New Living Translation
  Then the apostles and elders together with the whole church in Jerusalem chose delegates, and they sent them to Antioch of Syria with Paul and Barnabas to report on this decision. The men chosen were two of the church leaders—Judas (also called Barsabbas) and Silas.
  
  English Standard Version
  Then it seemed good to the apostles and the elders, with the whole church, to choose men from among them and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They sent Judas called Barsabbas, and Silas, leading men among the brothers,
  
  Berean Study Bible
  Then the apostles and elders, with the whole church, decided to select men from among them to send to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They chose Judas called Barsabbas and Silas, two leaders among the brothers,
  
  Berean Literal Bible
  Then it seemed good to the apostles and to the elders, with the whole church, having chosen out from them, to send men to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas: Judas called Barsabbas and Silas, leading men among the brothers,
  
  New American Standard Bible
  Then it seemed good to the apostles and the elders, with the whole church, to choose men from among them to send to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas-- Judas called Barsabbas, and Silas, leading men among the brethren,
  
  New King James Version
  Then it pleased the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas, namely, Judas who was also named Barsabas, and Silas, leading men among the brethren.
  
  King James Bible
  Then pleased it the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, chief men among the brethren:
  
  Christian Standard Bible
  Then the apostles and the elders, with the whole church, decided to select men who were among them and to send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas: Judas, called Barsabbas, and Silas, both leading men among the brothers.
  
  Contemporary English Version
  The apostles, the leaders, and all the church members decided to send some men to Antioch along with Paul and Barnabas. They chose Silas and Judas Barsabbas, who were two leaders of the Lord's followers.
  
  Good News Translation
  Then the apostles and the elders, together with the whole church, decided to choose some men from the group and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They chose two men who were highly respected by the believers, Judas, called Barsabbas, and Silas,
  
  Holman Christian Standard Bible
  Then the apostles and the elders, with the whole church, decided to select men who were among them and to send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas: Judas, called Barsabbas, and Silas, both leading men among the brothers.
  
  International Standard Version
  Then the apostles, the elders, and the whole church decided to choose some of their men to send with Paul and Barnabas to Antioch. These were Judas, who was called Barsabbas, and Silas, who were leaders among the brothers.
  
  NET Bible
  Then the apostles and elders, with the whole church, decided to send men chosen from among them, Judas called Barsabbas and Silas, leaders among the brothers, to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas.
  
  New Heart English Bible
  Then it seemed good to the apostles and the elders, with the whole church, to choose men out of their company, and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas: Judas called Barsabbas, and Silas, chief men among the brothers.
  
  Aramaic Bible in Plain English
  Then the Apostles and the Elders, with the whole church, chose men from among them and they sent Yehuda, who is called Bar-Shaba, and Shila, to Antiakia with Paulus and BarNaba, men who were Leaders among the brethren.”
  
  GOD'S WORD® Translation
  Then the apostles, the spiritual leaders, and the whole church decided to choose some of their men to send with Paul and Barnabas to the city of Antioch. They chose Judas (called Barsabbas) and Silas, who were leaders among the believers.
  
  New American Standard 1977
  Then it seemed good to the apostles and the elders, with the whole church, to choose men from among them to send to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas—Judas called Barsabbas, and Silas, leading men among the brethren,
  
  King James 2000 Bible
  Then it pleased the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; namely, Judas surnamed Barsabbas, and Silas, chief men among the brethren:
  
  American King James Version
  Then pleased it the apostles and elders with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas and Silas, chief men among the brothers:
  
  American Standard Version
  Then it seemed good to the apostles and the elders, with the whole church, to choose men out of their company, and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; namely , Judas called Barsabbas, and Silas, chief men among the brethren:
  
  Douay-Rheims Bible
  Then it pleased the apostles and ancients, with the whole church, to choose men of their own company, and to send to Antioch, with Paul and Barnabas, namely, Judas, who was surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, chief men among the brethren.
  
  Darby Bible Translation
  Then it seemed good to the apostles and to the elders, with the whole assembly, to send chosen men from among them with Paul and Barnabas to Antioch, Judas called Barsabas and Silas, leading men among the brethren,
  
  English Revised Version
  Then it seemed good to the apostles and the elders, with the whole church, to choose men out of their company, and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; namely, Judas called Barsabbas, and Silas, chief men among the brethren:
  
  Webster's Bible Translation
  Then it pleased the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch, with Paul and Barnabas; namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, chief men among the brethren:
  
  Weymouth New Testament
  Thereupon it was decided by the Apostles and Elders, with the approval of the whole Church, to choose suitable persons from among themselves and send them to Antioch, with Paul and Barnabas. Judas, called Bar-sabbas, and Silas, leading men among the brethren, were selected,
  
  World English Bible
  Then it seemed good to the apostles and the elders, with the whole assembly, to choose men out of their company, and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas: Judas called Barsabbas, and Silas, chief men among the brothers.
  
  Young's Literal Translation
  Then it seemed good to the apostles and the elders, with the whole assembly, chosen men out of themselves to send to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas -- Judas surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, leading men among the brethren
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  When did WT lose the spirit?

  by Smiles in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at what time would you say that the watch tower schema lost the spirit?.

  like the ancient nation of israel which struggled maintaining divine blessing due to a long series of grave errors that eventually culminated in definitive loss... how and when did watch tower lose the spirit?.

  can we pinpoint a time or event?.

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  The WTS has had the spirit of stupidity since it started in the late 1800's
  
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  Culture Wars

  by Victor in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  with things going to hell in a hand basket, i’ve taken an interest in the clashes of mindsets.

  this of course takes me back to my own evolutionary mindset pre and post jw life of two decades.

  if you overlay the core beliefs of memetic tribes as postulated by the authors, i’m curious what the median tribe of jwd would be?

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  When you have an acting president who leans to the far white in closeted racism and positions himself in support mostly to the top 1% of the economic sector of a population, one should expect cultural division and instability to occur.
  
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  No more hour requirements for pioneers

  by solomon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it was announced at the meeting.

  do what you are able to because of covid.. i think i should sign up as i’m able to meet the hour requirements.

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  Mr.Finkelstein

  Thank god I've only got 2 hours in this month.
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  Are You Afraid of Contracting The Covid Virus?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  thankfully my best friend who got this terrible malady is doing well after being in the hospital for more than two months!

  i see some people who are still petrified over this virus.

  they are still virtual prisoners in their own homes.

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  Without constant brain washing at the meetings and assemblies they will drift.

  Sweet that would be good for humanity.

  That would save a few hundred lives a year.
  

  I used to be very careful at first back in March but now I just keep a safe distance from people where there is a lot ie. grocery stores, work , parks.

  You got make the best of it, until a vaccine is publicly distributed.
  
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  Who Do You Think Would Be A Good Running Mate For Joe Biden?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it seems like the only possibilities are women of color.

  no whites need apply.. maybe he will change his mind and ask hillary clinton?

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  Mr.Finkelstein

  The problem with Biden is that he's too laid back and presents himself with a lack of vigor, enthusiasm and energy, maybe that's why he needs to choose an aggressive, high energy but smart running mate.

  I see that in Senator Kamala Harris, she has federal experience which is a plus for the VP position.
  
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  New Disfellowshipping Procedure

  by Anna Marina in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  disfellowship but never, ever announce it.. this new procedure is to be confirmed - anyone else come across it?.

  for this record these are jesus' actual instructions in relation to this matter:-.

  (matthew 18:15-17) 15 “moreover, if your brother commits a sin, go lay bare his fault between you and him alone.

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  Mr.Finkelstein

  There are many elements of Fear the WTS/JWorg implements in its operations to control people thoughts, behavior and mind.

  Such as Armageddon soon or we will make anyone who leave the Org. regret it to such a extent they would wish they never had joined.

  We will DF people in the congregations so that no one will talk to them, even their family members wont with high restrictions.

  These are effective ways to instill Fear into people's minds and the WTS uses that Fear to sustain their membership and following.

  To see them change that or let DFing go completely is highly unlikely.
  
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  Awake! March 22, 1993

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  does anyone happen to have a copy of the awake for march 22, 1993. .

  i'm especially interested in pages 3 and 4 of an article about false teachers..

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  Mr.Finkelstein

  Good grief! Finky is kicking ass!

  Thanks
  

  That's because Finky is inspired and motivated by " The Truth "

  particularly so when human life is at stake.
  
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  Awake! March 22, 1993

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  does anyone happen to have a copy of the awake for march 22, 1993. .

  i'm especially interested in pages 3 and 4 of an article about false teachers..

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  Mr.Finkelstein

  One could truthfully and accurately say it was that inherent corruption within the WTS/JWS that created the power, control and the money to those self assertive opportunistic men who ran the WTS from its beginning to its present day appearance.

  These men made themselves kings among ordinary men, self glorifying themselves (The Anointed , FDSL) as being loyal to scripture and to god but the reality is something quite different when one reads the bible independently with adherence.