now today this is of course a non-issue.
the wt has embraced the big bang/old earth etc just not evolution.
in fact the creator book has some decent info.. however i have a good copy of the 1958 paradise book.
Did wt ever believe that the whole universe, or just the bare, wet Earth was 50 millennia old?
Not to my knowledge , the universe was created in thousands of years to their understanding , but then again the WTS leaders were not well educated even in their time and era.
Ask Russell or Rutherford about astrophysics and they would go .... " Waaa ? "
look at the new york post online today and watch the videos of mayhem and destruction to the city with fires all over manhattan.
the police vehicles are being destroyed and torched and the rioting just goes on and on.. i regularly went to nyc sometimes once a month for years.
now, who on earth would want to go to this hellhole??.
The police have to be the biggest, strongest gang in the neighborhood with the best resources.
True !
Yes that should so but the police also shouldn't use an over amount of force in doing their duties, meaning dont over abuse that power, this is where proper training comes in.
Stupid mistakes can cost lives and then no one wins.
look at the new york post online today and watch the videos of mayhem and destruction to the city with fires all over manhattan.
the police vehicles are being destroyed and torched and the rioting just goes on and on.. i regularly went to nyc sometimes once a month for years.
now, who on earth would want to go to this hellhole??.
Youth today are getting hit with all kinds of problems, such as the Covid virus problem which is creating high levels of unemployment for young people.
This situation alone is creating a lot of anxiety, strife, depression the list goes on.
They direct their grief toward the controlling governments as causing these problems , the Police abuse scenario just stoked that anger up even more.
Trump the white corporate elitist who is power right now may be another instigating factor.
The reason these protesting groups have been so violent and disrespectful to the police is because they see them as part of the problem.
The diversionary political ideologies within the US right now is the highest I've ever seen it. I can see this continuing on right up to the next general election.
i'm new to the forum.
i'm an ex-jw who actually faded from jws.
i'm here to drop by every once in a while to ask a question or two.
Therefore, does anyone support the historicity of the Adam and Eve story
The Adam and Eve story is structured in history as a single reference to ancient mythological expressions.
There were and are many other mythological stories to the creation of the world in which we live by other ancient civilizations to be noted.
Why this came about is that humanity in the past didn't have the knowledge of which we have today, the ancients had to endure through the ignorance of which they were forced to inherent.
Human ignorance is a indefensible fact but I think we should keep an open mind to discoveries which may appear into the future.
i have no love loss for the gb or religion and this is not an apologist attempt.
in fact i hate the religion and the gb.
but i watch night after night young kids who's minds have been corrupted by the propaganda and dogma that modern college's are teaching them.
Tony Morris said a while back the more prestigious the college the more danger it is to your kids.
Who gives a fuck what that corrupt self serving relgoius zealot/charlatan says ?
He's probably never put a foot into a University himself.
The real underling position Morris was making was that higher education is dangerous because its a place where unrestrained knowledge exists such as science.
The WTS/JWorg. is pro labor college such as in building trades so these ones with their training can build more Kingdom Halls and WTS/JWorg facilities.
i have no love loss for the gb or religion and this is not an apologist attempt.
in fact i hate the religion and the gb.
but i watch night after night young kids who's minds have been corrupted by the propaganda and dogma that modern college's are teaching them.
And whats wrong with protesting for a cause in which they think needs to change ?
Freedom to publicly voice a opinion is a part of democracy.
What usually happens is if that opinion or ideology is valid and beneficial toward society then the population will accept it into the social environment and that society will be better for it .
So Wolverine whats your real beef with Universities/higher education ?
Backing and supporting Morris is bit redundant based from a guy who has taken the JWS position of higher education being dangerous and a useless cause .
unbelievable admissions.. freddie confesses he fell for his own propaganda.. https://youtu.be/fkjw-r9oitk.
Freddie confesses he fell for his own propaganda.
To be a bit more precise Freddie confesses he fell for C T Russell's doctrines which were all false but when he took over the reins as being the bible scholar of the WTS, he devised more falsely corrupt doctrines to stir up the circulation of the WTS's literature, like reusing the 6000 years of mankind's existence 3 times in total decades apart.
umm.. umm.. umm....... that's good righteous bullshit.
now today this is of course a non-issue.
the wt has embraced the big bang/old earth etc just not evolution.
in fact the creator book has some decent info.. however i have a good copy of the 1958 paradise book.
As its noted, fear, ignorance and superstition makes and creates a religious cult.
The JWS is just one of many.
now today this is of course a non-issue.
the wt has embraced the big bang/old earth etc just not evolution.
in fact the creator book has some decent info.. however i have a good copy of the 1958 paradise book.
The WTS was made and built up by reconfirming and propagating human ignorance drawn out of the writings in the bible, which were drawn out by ancient people who were also ignorant of the world in which we live.
But in doing so these men built a semblance of power and control unto themselves, not to mention the supporting money which kept them going.
Proliferating fear and ignorance is what keeps this organization alive and its no wonder why they are endeavored in wanting to protect what they have .
dear brothers, july 27, 2020. in 1919, the president of the watchtower society made a bold prediction, “millions now living will never die”.
that quotation was constantly repeated by the organization till the year 2000 when they realized that everyone in attendance at that assembly, who listened to j.r. rutherford repeat those words, are dead.. that teaching has guided my life.
statements were repeatedly made at assemblies, conventions and in print that there was no career in “this system of things” so you don’t need a job with benefits or retirement, your fulltime job is to “preach the good news”!
One thought ... sending a letter of dissociation is one way of halting any where are you calls, we haven't seen you recently at the meetings.
If I were to send in a letter I would state that after an honest review of the doctrines which were created and promoted by the WTS leaders (GB) ie. 1914 I found that these doctrines were not inline to what the bible says or what Jesus said in preaching his new Kingdom order, in fact I find them sinful, unfaithful and apostate in nature.
I made a baptismal personal vow of loyalty and faithfulness to Jesus, not to be faithfully loyal in servitude to the propagating sins of men or sharing of those identifying sculptural sins.
To me being righteous in the eyes of god means to be loyal and obedient to his directions and will, not to sinful disobedient unloyal men in spite of them proclaiming themselves the FDSL.
